Throat feels like it is closing

[richardrda]

Hey guys

i was wondering if anyone has experienced this problem with 100% vg 8mg, I am using a fogger v4 with Alice in vapourland USA and it feels like when I take lung hits it feels like my throat is going to close up

 

[Kropotkin]

Whoa. That does not sound good.

I've never experienced exactly what you describe, but I do get a very stuffed-up nose every time I go over 40 or 50% VG. Other folks have reported a "heavy" feeling in their chests.

Clearly, there are people who are sensitive to VG, just as there are people who are sensitive to PG.

 

[DaveP]

I can't do lung hits. They are just too harsh for me. I inhale after taking the vapor into my mouth. Some people complain of a heavy lung feeling if they vape too much VG over time. I get some of the same sensation with more than 20% to 30% VG, so I stay more in the PG range and add a little VG into the mix.

Drink lots of water. vaping dries you out, since glycerines absorb water from the mucous membranes. Throat closing sensations are also a symptom of allergic reactions. You might want to consult a doctor if hydration doesn't relieve the symptoms.

 

[Myxlpyxlx]

I can't take VG too well either. I can go 40pg/60vg at most before it starts messing with me.

 

[Sarin]

It'll be the massive vapour that the Foggers deliver along with the increased amount of vapour that 100% VG juices produce. I get a similar thing when i drip 100% VG but a sip of water normally sorts it out.

 

[patkin]

Practice inhaling only deep enough to nose exhale. I think you'll pretty quickly not miss lung inhaling at all. Pipe and cigar smokers as well as dippers don't do it so its, obviously, not necessary for nic absorption which happens mainly in the mouth and/or nose.

 

[AndriaD]

Hey guys

i was wondering if anyone has experienced this problem with 100% vg 8mg, I am using a fogger v4 with Alice in vapourland USA and it feels like when I take lung hits it feels like my throat is going to close up

I was having issues with VG just flat-out suffocating me, using as little as 33% VG, because I have asthma. However I've recently determined that vaping high-PG plays absolute hell with my hydration and electrolytes, so I've had to go to a high VG juice. I thin it with [distilled] water, and so far, it's not suffocating me, not giving me that "hairball" feeling in my throat or chest.

Someone suggested to me to start diluting the VG with water at 5% dilution, but that doesn't make enough difference to make it any different for me; I actually dilute a high-VG juice with 25% water -- 3 parts high-VG ejuice, 1 part water. Since you're using 100% VG, that might be a little too much dilution, but I'd suggest starting at no less than 10% dilution, see if that helps, and move up in 5% increments if you need it thinner still.

I believe it's the thick viscosity that causes my own problems; YMMV.

Andria

PS: what he said above about dehydration is no joke, but just "drink more water" may not cut it; even sports drinks may not keep you properly hydrated. I'm using coconut water daily to fix my own dehydration and electrolyte imbalance, and now that it seems fixed, to keep it fixed! But mainly it seems to be the potassium my body needed to correct the problems, and that's a problem-area for a lot of folks, who may be taking all kinds of medications that interfere with the sodium/potassium balance.

 

[Recycled Roadkill]

Consider purchasing the Home Tracheotomy kit should you decide not to see a medical professional regarding this problem.

Y'know, a stitch in time saves nine!

 

[DaveP]

I was having issues with VG just flat-out suffocating me, using as little as 33% VG, because I have asthma. However I've recently determined that vaping high-PG plays absolute hell with my hydration and electrolytes, so I've had to go to a high VG juice. I thin it with [distilled] water, and so far, it's not suffocating me, not giving me that "hairball" feeling in my throat or chest.

Someone suggested to me to start diluting the VG with water at 5% dilution, but that doesn't make enough difference to make it any different for me; I actually dilute a high-VG juice with 25% water -- 3 parts high-VG ejuice, 1 part water. Since you're using 100% VG, that might be a little too much dilution, but I'd suggest starting at no less than 10% dilution, see if that helps, and move up in 5% increments if you need it thinner still.

I believe it's the thick viscosity that causes my own problems; YMMV.

Andria

PS: what he said above about dehydration is no joke, but just "drink more water" may not cut it; even sports drinks may not keep you properly hydrated. I'm using coconut water daily to fix my own dehydration and electrolyte imbalance, and now that it seems fixed, to keep it fixed! But mainly it seems to be the potassium my body needed to correct the problems, and that's a problem-area for a lot of folks, who may be taking all kinds of medications that interfere with the sodium/potassium balance.

I've told the story here a couple of times about our band using a fog machine periodically on gigs. We found out that it's dangerous to use on a hardwood stage because the glycerine based fog condenses into a slippery film on the wood. More than once I've almost slipped down with a guitar around my neck. That's could be a $1500 fall if it happens and the guitar hits the floor!

I can see PG and especially VG coating the insides of the lungs and bronchial tubes and causing breathing problems until you cough it all up.

 

[AndriaD]

I've told the story here a couple of times about our band using a fog machine periodically on gigs. We found out that it's dangerous to use on a hardwood stage because the glycerine based fog condenses into a slippery film on the wood. More than once I've almost slipped down with a guitar around my neck. That's could be a $1500 fall if it happens and the guitar hits the floor!

I can see PG and especially VG coating the insides of the lungs and bronchial tubes and causing breathing problems until you cough it all up.

Well that was the main problem for me, with VG; it felt like something *needed* coughing up, but nothing moved; it just sat there in my chest like a lead weight, so that I could barely breathe at all. Thinning it has definitely helped!!!

Andria

 

[patkin]

VG molecules are larger than PG ones. VG in the bottle is like thick syrup. PG however is the consistency of water.

 

[dbrandt01]

I had the opposite effect. I had that feeling with 50/50 and moving to 100% VG stopped it. I did notice drinking a lot more bottle. A couple bottles an hour has helped me significantly too.

 

[AndriaD]

I think it may be primarily asthmatics who feel that smothered feeling from VG, or maybe anyone that suffers a lung problem which narrows the airways. If the airways are thickly coated, that further narrows them, so when as asthma attack hits and they go into spasm, that leaves very little space in the airway for air to get thru, or to get the rescue inhaler's vapor into the bronchioles to relax them. It's scary!

Andria

 

[crxess]

Of course no one wants to mention over indulgence.

A little deep breathing(without vaping) goes a long way to keeping the lung function working properly.