Throat hit question?

[bdpf]

Question for you more experienced vapers:

What contributes to the throat hit? Is it the nicotine level, the juice flavor, the type of juice (PG vs VG), the type of inhaling device (tank, carto, clearo, top coil, bottom coil...) assuming the same voltage?

I initially though it was only related to the nic content but it seems it's not only that. I've found that
- The lower the nic level, the lower the TH
- For the same nic level, I find that 70PG/30VG has higher TH than all VG.
- I've had juices with the same nic content and same PG/VG ratio having different TH, so maybe it's also flavor dependent

Does that all seem correct?
I'm not there yet but is it possible to get any TH with 0 nic?

 

[Concat]

Nicotine level and atomizer are the two biggest factors, imo... and then flavor, then PG/VG ratio.

Of course, some flavors will affect the TH quite a bit, but I made the switch to flavor-free juice about a year ago and I didn't really notice any drop in TH. I get tons of TH with flavor-free 18 mg/mL, 75PG/25VG... most of my smoker friends say it's too strong. I tend to gravitate towards LR atties/cartos that hit like a truck.

Personally I found that with flavors which supposedly induce more TH, it's a different kind of TH than the one associated with nicotine and I haven't really found one that is as satisfying. The common example would be mint. I can't, for example, get away with less nicotine in a mint juice and expect the same TH as flavor-free full nic.

Another thing to muse over is whether or not a vendor accounts for the dilution of their nic base when they add flavorings.

As for the PG/VG ratio, I'm not sure, but I believe PG is a better vehicle for transferring nicotine because the droplets are smaller than vaporized VG. That's why there's is more TH. I'm not so sure there would be an appreciable difference in TH if you were to vape nicfree PG and compare it to nicfree VG. The TH for both would be negligible.

 

[bdpf]

Thanks for your input.
Funny about you mentioning mint as being good for TH. I'm currently vaping dynominty from Jughead as so far it has been the worst juice I've had for TH, I mean I get vapor but zero TH (keep in mind that this one has only 6mg however I've tried others 6mg that although were not great but still much better for TH)

 

[Ryedan]

Question for you more experienced vapers:

What contributes to the throat hit? Is it the nicotine level, the juice flavor, the type of juice (PG vs VG), the type of inhaling device (tank, carto, clearo, top coil, bottom coil...) assuming the same voltage?

I initially though it was only related to the nic content but it seems it's not only that. I've found that
- The lower the nic level, the lower the TH
- For the same nic level, I find that 70PG/30VG has higher TH than all VG.
- I've had juices with the same nic content and same PG/VG ratio having different TH, so maybe it's also flavor dependent

Does that all seem correct?
I'm not there yet but is it possible to get any TH with 0 nic?

I pretty much agree with Concat here. Nic level contributes IMO 80% of TH. Atty choice is #2 and PG/VG ratio is #3. I've also found flavor has a slight role to play, but not much.

With attys, RBA's give the most, cartos and dripping attys are next best and clearos generally come last.

 

[bdpf]

No wonder I don't get much, so far I've only used clearos ah ah!

 

[Zurd]

and top coil atomizer gives more TH than bottom coil since the vapor is warmer so you feel it more

 

[Concat]

Thanks for your input.
Funny about you mentioning mint as being good for TH. I'm currently vaping dynominty from Jughead as so far it has been the worst juice I've had for TH, I mean I get vapor but zero TH (keep in mind that this one has only 6mg however I've tried others 6mg that although were not great but still much better for TH)

And this is sort of why I question the nic content in juice sometimes. I mean hell, I've ordered the exact same juice on consecutive orders and have got wildly different levels of TH. Mint shouldn't mute the TH. Most people claim the opposite.

 

[Battlelance]

Thanks for your input.
Funny about you mentioning mint as being good for TH. I'm currently vaping dynominty from Jughead as so far it has been the worst juice I've had for TH, I mean I get vapor but zero TH (keep in mind that this one has only 6mg however I've tried others 6mg that although were not great but still much better for TH)

In my experience, anything 100% VG (assuming you're vaping juggys VG line) really kills the TH. I can vape 100% VG 24mg, but a 70pg/30vg at 24mg would send me coughing up a storm. Also, some flavours make a huge difference in TH as well, more so than the nic.

Then again, I can also change TH by changing the type of wick I use, or the number of coils I wrap on my rebuilt evod heads (at the same wattage).

I never noticed mint as changing the TH. Menthol does however, but in a different kinda way.

 

[Heavyrocker]

For me its the nic,i vape RTS 12mg nic with 100 VG and massive TH.I DIY with Flavor Art and using a all brass Sentinal mech with SS cable rope as a wick in the RSST tank.



SS cable in a RSST tank.

 

[Battlelance]

One day I'll figure out my RSST. Right now I got 3 wraps of 30ga on 400 ss mesh, the flavour isn't bad but there is 0 TH and all it does is turn my juice in the tank dark. Bleh.

 

[Rat2chat2]

I am still new to vaping, but it has been my experience that I get more throat hit when I add a drop of PGA, menthol or Koolada to an atomizer no matter what nic level I a vaping. Couldn't hurt to try it and see. Experiment and have fun with it.