tightness in chest and trouble breathing easy

[HippiGlass]

hey guys and gals hows it going...well i was using the smoke everywhere brand e-cig for a week or 2 and its been fine...one day i think i kinda over did it with the drops and got kinda sick....didnt use it for about 4 days..stayed off analogs for those 4 days as well...anyway me and my wife ordered the blu and they came in about a week..now ive been using blu..i only hit it a few times a day but i dont know if its the blu cartridges, if what ever inside the 2 are different from each other but ive been having tightness in my chest and breathing has been a lil tight...only when i lay down for bed though....like last night it kinda scared me...i took a few hits before bed thinkin it would calm me down and help me sleep a lil better.. but instead i got tightness in the chest and breathing seemed a lil tough kinda felt like i had to yawn to get a full breath... think it can be e-cig or lack of nicotine?? im 24 and healthy..no preveous heart problems or anything like that...

thanks

p.s i still plan on going to the doc on monday just for my peace of mind

 

[Brewster 59]

well I think going to the doc is a good idea, Have to say Ive never experienced tightness of the chest but have experienced headaches and insominia. I also use snus so nic being a stimulant maybe Im overdoing it a bit

 

[sans pants]

Perhaps you are allergic to PG? I have found that PG tends to dry me out a little.

 

[HippiGlass]

i thought it might be the PG..like a allergic reaction or something

 

[TWalker]

One thing glycerin/glycol does is attract/pull water in from whatever it touches. Hence its ability to create "fog" in fog machines, be inhaled as in a PV and be used in as skin moisturizer.

I would like to believe it draws water from the air and then hydrates us. But it seems it also has the ability to draw water from our bodies via our lungs and mouth and deydrate to an extent as well.

Make sure to stay hydrated. I have not experienced any dehydration and my theory is just that but be aware of it.

 

[Faceless]

It sounds like an allergic reaction to PG liquid. This doesnt mean you cant use an ecig, just you have to use a different based liquid like many people.

PG is a certain type of glycerin used in the juice. Try VG, its vegetable based glycerin and can be found at cignot.com or tastyvapor.us

Just lay of the ecig for a day awhile and see if it gets better, if so I am 98% sure its allergic reaction to PG.

 

[Cielo]

Even if you think that you are possibly allergic to pg, you still need to see a Doctor! Anyone can have a heart issue no matter your age or if you never had one before. I am 36 and was admitted to the hospital several months ago with pneumonia. Even though I have never had an heart issue before, I was admitted into the heart ward, put on heart monitors and given potassium. I had simply become dehydrated from the fever/pnuemonia but it ended up putting me in the hospital for two weeks.

The symptoms you decribed sounds more like an asthma attack (yes i am an asthmatic and have had many) which could be triggered by an allergy to anything. Your doctor can put you on prednesone or you can also try a benedryl if you have taken it before. Beware that benedryl can also cause tightening of the chest for asthmatics.

Of course, we dont know your medical history, any medicines you are on, nor are we doctors but just making some guesses bases on our previous experiences with vaping. Please take our advice as such and see your doctor asap!

 

[HippiGlass]

hey guys and gals thanks for all the feedback! i still plan on goin to see my doc on monday..i googled propylene glycol allergy and this is what it came up with

Polyethylene Glycol/Propylene Glycol Gel

All medicines may cause side effects, but many people have no, or minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome when using Polyethylene Glycol/Propylene Glycol Gel:

Mild, temporary stinging sensation.
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Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Polyethylene Glycol/Propylene Glycol Gel:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing ; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue).



sounds like it might just be the problem...but better safe to be sorry..maybe ill try the VG..maybe ill just try and stop all together...kinda a bummer i liked the e-cig now im hesitant to use it
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[Chefdeuce]

See your doctor, It may be completly unrelated to Ecigs, I had chest pains at about the same age, that is to say 3-4 years ago. My doctor told me to quit smoking and see him then, well that didn't happen, I kept smoking and I kept having chest pains and short breath. Ecigs have cleared that up. Perhaps it was just overlap from your smoking days... But I'm not a doctor, I havn't spent years studing the body. It is just what happened to me. Good luck and keep us posted

 

[dgriego]

It could also be stress or anxiety. On one of my many attempts to quit smoking many years ago I was successful for some time. But I experienced tightness of the chest and felt like an elephant was sitting on it. These feelings would hit me at different times. I went to the docter thinking I was having heart or lung problems.
I was checked out and told my heart and lungs were 100%. They told me it was anxiety which I scoffed at, as I am not a nervous or worry wart type person.
I continued to have these feelings which were very uncomfortable. I stopped at a mini market for gas and ended up buying a pack of smokes.
Once I smoked again I never had this feeling.
Since I quit this round I have again had these feelings although to a lesser extent than when I went cold turkey. Mostly in the mornings or when there is something going on at work that is intense and stressful. I can vape like a vacuum during these times and it will slowly fade.
I have recently tried snuff and that seems to help a lot. When I get that tightness, I have a little snuff and then vape.
Might be the lack of nicotine as that is what it was for me. But see a doctor as tightness in the chest is also a sign of heat lung problems.

 

[purplxhaze420]

i can almost guarantee that you are NOT allergic to PG. PG is in like everything dude. Hand sanitizer, tons and tons of food products. Ever been sedated before a surgery or at the doc's? They cut benzodiazepines with PG cuz they are not hydro-soluable. A lot of Intravenous have PG in them. Soda, candies, DEODERANT, cosmetics, moisturizers ... i could go on all day.

Since I am a person that suffers from a generalized panic/anxiety disorder... i can say with confidence that this sounds like anxiety. You take that breath... and it just doesn't feel like its at all sufficient. Your body will yawn naturally because your brain is like HEY I NEED MORE O2!! And the yawn in a natural reflex from your brain to obtain the new replenishing O2. Thats why one will yawn when tired. Anxiety fu**ing SUCKS! But i will tell you, when you get those breaths that "FEEL" short.. do not attempt to breath quicker or harder -- this will exacerbate your issue (if anxiety is the case). This will lead to hyperventilation, which from my own experience, is horrible. Dizzy, Nauseous, SURREAL. You are thinking I NEED MORE AIR, when in fact you are always getting a sufficient amount. You'll dig yourself deeper into an anxietal ditch and just fell as though death is eminent. What you will end up doing by breathing harder/faster purposely will just you TOO MUCH O2 which will cause the diziness, nausea, and an insane surreal feeling. -- and even lead to you passing out. At which point your brain would make your lungs breath naturally and stably. Hopefully this does not become the case.\

Stopping the analogs most definitely leads to anxiety and aggravation in just about everybody that quits. I wouldn't worry if I were you, but if seeing a doc will put your mind at ease.. then by all means go for yours!

 

[Faceless]

i can almost guarantee that you are NOT allergic to PG. PG is in like everything dude. Hand sanitizer, tons and tons of food products. Ever been sedated before a surgery or at the doc's? They cut benzodiazepines with PG cuz they are not hydro-soluable. A lot of Intravenous have PG in them. Soda, candies, DEODERANT, cosmetics, moisturizers ... i could go on all day.

Since I am a person that suffers from a generalized panic/anxiety disorder... i can say with confidence that this sounds like anxiety. You take that breath... and it just doesn't feel like its not at all sufficient. Your body will yawn naturally because your brain is like HEY I NEED MORE O2!! And the yawn in a natural reflex from your brain to obtain the new replenishing O2. Thats why one will yawn when tired. Anxiety fu**ing SUCKS! But i will tell you, when you get those breaths that "FEEL" short.. do not attempt to breath quicker or harder -- this will exacerbate your issue (if anxiety is the case). This will lead to hyperventilation, which from my own experience, is horrible. Dizzy, Nauseous, SURREAL. You are thinking I NEED MORE AIR, when in fact you are always getting a sufficient amount. You'll dig yourself deeper into an anxietal ditch and just fell as though death is eminent. What you will end up doing by breathing harder/faster purposely will just you TOO MUCH O2 which will cause the diziness, nausea, and an insane surreal feeling.
Stopping the analogs most definitely leads to anxiety and aggravation in just about everybody that quits. I wouldn't worry if I were you, but if seeing a doc will put your mind at ease.. then by all means go for yours!

Your stomach has acids that make it hard for substances to irritate it. Your skin has a higher tolerance also. Your lungs on the other hand find it hard to accept anything but air. Firewood smoke wouldnt upset ur skin or stomach if swallowed. Inhaling it through your lungs over and over again would make you sick. So, PG could have different effects on the lungs and overall feelings.

 

[HippiGlass]

hey guys and gals! hows it going! i think anxiety might be a part of the problem as well.. a lot have made good points about describing the feeling i was getting and i was doing exactly the wrong thing by trying to breath deeper and more breaths......but some good news....last night i stayed away from the e-cig and i slept fine! no feeling that i cant breath or anything like that.. so im thinking the pg can be the problem along with the anxiety helping out makin it worse for my brain lol...might be time to switch vg and give that a try

thanks for all your support

 

[starstuff]

I just need to chime in here. Hi everyone, great thread. HippiGlass what you have described here is exactly what is happening to me and I’m so glad you explained it so well in so few words. “tightness in the chest..breathing a little tough..feeling the need to yawn to get a full breath.” I vaped a few days at 4 and 8 ml nic and when I went to higher nic ( 14 and 24 ml )my chest starting feeling heavy and tight like my lungs had closed up and little air was getting in there. I’ve seen people suffering from emphysema and I felt the way they looked when they were trying to get air and I agree it is much like a panic attack or anxiety. About every 10 minutes or so I would have to stop whatever I’m doing push my chest out and raise my head back so I could get a good deep breath and then I pant a few times and my breathing is just altogether labored. I don’t know how else to describe what I go through and I can understand how vapers who haven’t experienced this can come to a conclusion that it must be anxiety; not being able to breathe does make one anxious. But it is a reaction to something in the vapor. I contacted my supplier and ordered some VG which hasn’t arrived yet and I stopped vaping completely and went back to analogs and now I’m fine. So last night, feeling normal, I took two vapes of low ( 4 ml ) and immediately the heaviness-can’t catch my breath chest symptoms came back and cough cough cough like my lungs were in complete rejection of the vape, then it goes away after about half an hour and I breathe ok again. I tried a vape again this morning, feeling normal, and the same thing happened. I’m not having panic attacks or suffering anxiety, it’s something in the vapor. I’ve been lurking the forum for a month and many have said that a lot of these symptoms go away as your body adjusts, but my body is saying “oh no dear, we aren’t going to adjust to this anytime soon.” I can’t express how disappointing this is for me as I wanted vaping to work out for me so badly and I want one of those “analog free for 100 days” banners. Hoping my VG arrives tomorrow and I’ll report my result when it does. I want to be one of you happy people that vaping is working out for.

 

[purplxhaze420]

So, PG could have different effects on the lungs and overall feelings.

Understood, that it may hit people differently.. but i was meaning that it was most likely not an "allergy" -- as in, something that could trigger anaphylactic shock. If you come to the conclusion that is IS the PG, theres always VG Or maybe whoever you got your liquid from puts something in there that others do not. Let us Know!

 

[aschmidy]

I have been through this guys. Exact same feelings, especially at night. For me it was definitely the pg. I can only use vg and it has to be ALL vg. A lot of the juice sellers have vg flavors, but the flavoring they use has pg in it and it still brings on my asthma attacks. The only one I can rely on that is only vg is EcoPure. No pg at all, ever. And yes, I did go through all of my cosmetics, soaps, everything and got rid of everything pg. I am feeling much better!
By the way, I did go to the doctor for this. They put me on an asthma inhaler that had pg in the propellant. Made it MUCH worse.

 

[DaBrat]

Wow! If you can pinpoint that this is only happening when you vape, stop immediately! Not to sound like an alarmist, but health is nothing to play around with. Hopefully it is the PG and the VG will clear it right up for you so you can continue vaping and not have to go back to analogs.

If the PG is causing these symptoms (similar to an asthma attack) don't take a chance that it can be just as devastating.

 

[starstuff]

Nothing seems to be working for me like it is for so many others. I switched from PG carts to VG carts and now I’m spinning and bouncing off the walls. I can’t keep a thought in my head. I walk into a room for a reason and forget what. House is a mess and for a month and a half since I’ve been vaping I feel my life has been disrupted like I’m living with an unwelcomed roommate. When it all gets too crazy I smoke tobacco and then I lay off tobacco and vape and my head clears for awhile, then I vape, then I get disoriented, then I smoke to feel normal. What am I ingesting? When does it end? I live alone with my cat, my soul mate, and even she can’t relate to me, she hides. I’ve tried to push tobacco out of my life so many times before and now I feel like a failure all over again. What’s wrong with me?

 

[dragonpuff]

Starstuff, hang in there, it will get easier with time. It sounds like a lot of what you're experiencing could be due to your body and mind adjusting to no longer smoking. Truth be told, many times i have tried to quit smoking and had similar problems. I wish i had more advice for you on that end but, as it stands, even with vaping i only quit for two months. Just don't put too much pressure on yourself or you could wind up driving yourself crazy like i did

Hippiglass, as far as tightness in the chest and trouble breathing goes, have you considered that it could be your flavors? I have the exact same problem but only when vaping strong flavors and laying down. I've found that when i use lighter flavors at bedtime, i find it much easier to breathe. Just a thought.

 

[starstuff]

ok. thanks.