Time to hold news agencies accountable!

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GBalkam

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So that is it in a nut shell guys. I think we are all tired of these supposed "news" agencies publishing unsupported "facts" about vaping, and it is time to call them on it!

Contact any of these news agencies and confront them to support their claims with facts. For example.. "High voltages can cause e-juice to produce 15 times more formaldehyde than regular tobacco cigarettes". I want to know in what fantasy world 9 volts is considered "high voltage" HOLY CRAP! We need to put up wire fences and warning signs around those battery carousels at the dollar store! KIDS CAN TOUCH THOSE!!!!!! We must demand that all batteries be sold and installed by licensed electricians with a valid degree from an accredited trades school!!! OUR CHILDRENS LIVES ARE AT STAKE!!!! Call your local government! We need to FORCE Duracell to put warning labels on their batteries!!! "may cause electric shock and could potentially produce enough current to cause death" (I wonder how many 1.5 volt batteries in series it would actually take to electrocute an adult human. Is it less for kids?)

You see my point here.. these facts are being published with no supporting data, and although a pair of 1.5v batteries in a flashlight is hardly considered dangerous, 200 in series at 300v very well could be. Without the actual data used to obtain the results being claimed as factual, we allow our news agencies to become nothing more than rag sheets, like "The Enquirer"---because feeble minds want to know. How many of you were abducted and raped by an alien and are now pregnant with its illegitimate martian spawn? What about Satan?? How many little devil children does he have running around now, according to "The Enquirer"??? Where are they now? Why haven't they caused the Apocalypse? Perhaps they just have low ambitions, and content themselves to spitting on your burgers at fast food joints?

So most of this post is showing how stupid unsupported claims can be. Yet we allow our news agencies to get away with publishing these facts every day, and it is high time we stopped doing this and held them accountable! Every time you see a news agency publishing articles claiming "facts" like the one I listed regarding formaldehyde, call them on it.. demand they prove it or at least recant the story and publish the actual data used to prove it.

LOL Sure, I suppose you could cook on a 9v battery.. if you made a coil.. but how long would it take to roast a chicken on one?
 

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Actually "news agencies" (read "news entertainment") are highly biased in about everything, not just vaping. Up to the point that free speech does not exist for them. Anything for high ratings. And for news entertainment ratings are provided by people who cannot think for themselves.
 

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I think the only one on mainstream media that talks positively about vaping is Greg Gutfeld on Fox News, but I'm beginning to think he only does it for the "views". I've never seen him respond to anything on FB or Twitter regarding vaping advocacy or positive vaping articles. I stopped engaging him after about the third time.
 

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One option is to do what you can via comments on Twitter, Facebook, and on the actual articles, such as we did with the article posted about elsewhere on this forum:

http://xyz.miamiherald.com/living/health-fitness/article91033197.html

(Replace xyz with www)

People read them and they can't be tossed in the trash can like a letter or deleted having never been read by anyone like an e-mail. I have seen some tweets/FB posts/articles get hundreds upon hundreds of such comments.
 
I think the only one on mainstream media that talks positively about vaping is Greg Gutfeld on Fox News, but I'm beginning to think he only does it for the "views". I've never seen him respond to anything on FB or Twitter regarding vaping advocacy or positive vaping articles. I stopped engaging him after about the third time.

I don't have a TV at home. I only watch TV when I go to my bro's or mom's. They are going to keep producing the same garbage until WE turn it off.

I get all my news off of the Internet (125+ very deep and fully vetted Twitter lists on a range of subjects (strategic policy, news, vaping and abt 50 on information systems) streaming all day on my 30" monitor in 5 to 10 columns(silos); Chicago Suntimes; Chicago Tribune; Drudge Report) and I do my own research on things that interest me.

Fox News and GG are in interesting positions. They are the only opposition TV out there. The best reporters are Bret Baier, Katherine Herridge.
 

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News need more gov't control. Not as in censorship, but as in they must publish the truth and facts to support it.

Example.. is it ok for a reporter to yell FIRE in a crowded subway because he sees someone lighting a cigarette off a match or bic lighter? Freedom of speech and freedom of the press were never intended as a shield for committing public mischief.
 

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News need more gov't control. Not as in censorship, but as in they must publish the truth and facts to support it.
In fact you are getting what you want already. The press blindly repeats all the "facts" handed to them by govt. Facts like "vaping is worse than smoking" and "there is no proof vaping is effective".

Like Reagan said... Govt is not the solution, it is the problem"
 

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News need more gov't control. Not as in censorship, but as in they must publish the truth and facts to support it.

Example.. is it ok for a reporter to yell FIRE in a crowded subway because he sees someone lighting a cigarette off a match or bic lighter? Freedom of speech and freedom of the press were never intended as a shield for committing public mischief.
Um, you might be thankful that you live in Canada: The NDAA Legalizes The Use Of Propaganda On The US Public it's perfectly legal for the US government to disseminate untrue propaganda against it's own citizens.
 

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News need more gov't control. Not as in censorship, but as in they must publish the truth and facts to support it.

Example.. is it ok for a reporter to yell FIRE in a crowded subway because he sees someone lighting a cigarette off a match or bic lighter? Freedom of speech and freedom of the press were never intended as a shield for committing public mischief.
I don't want the government determining what is fact. It's the public who needs to hold the media accountable.
 
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If you subscribe to any print media (magazines, newspapers, whatever), put the offending iissue in a large envelope along with a letter pointing out the article, then mail it via first-class mail to the first person on the masthead (usually the publisher). Demand that the remainder of your subscription be returned to you.

I've done that several times, and I've always received an actual letter in return (not a canned response) along with a check.

I don't know if they actually become more "factual" after I done this, since I no longer subscribe.

But, if enough of us do this, their paid subscription count goes down, they have to charge less for advertisements, and eventually they enter the print media death spiral.

It's too bad. People lose their jobs, etc. But if the medium can't fulfill their purpose (providing accurate news), then they're of no use to me.
 
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News need more gov't control...
They are government controlled. That's why it's mostly propaganda.

Example.. is it ok for a reporter to yell FIRE in a crowded subway because he sees someone lighting a cigarette off a match or bic lighter?...
No, it's isn't, but they'll continue to do it anyway.
 
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