Title edited [CLOSED] Unregistered

Status
Not open for further replies.

Reddhott

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Mar 19, 2011
37,734
152,758
cartoon land,usa
hmmmmmmmm r u calling me ignorant?????
So, the envelope, tracking number, and shipping on two 7ml bottles cost me over three dollars. Walt has to pay the guys loading the packages somehow. I guess nobody thinks of the handling part though.

People need to look into what it costs to run a business before they start making demands about what they deserve to pay. However, it is a free market. If people don't like it they can find someone they believe gives them a better value.

Complaining about costs when they obviously don't understand the full cost is ignorance on display though. I guess Walt has folks spoiled with hos low juice prices.
 

Walt83

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Dec 9, 2013
1,799
4,818
United States
Well, Walt, if I win the FB contest I'll pif it back to you. At this rate it sounds like you might need it as much as me. ;)

It is all good, thanks Mike. You know I see a lot of companies rip people off on shipping and I think that has been one of our greatest selling points on here. We try our best to ship the cheapest we can. Sadly the eggs are not small. We have to use a box to ship them and the boxes have weight to them, so does the packing inside of it. First Class mail only covers up to 13 oz. We are always higher it seems, and well Priority has not been any better. I have one customer that is still waiting for his 10 days later.

My goal is to make a e-liquid company that has the highest customer service, quality, and variety of products. Still it would be nice not to fill out these FDA batch reports... UGH (That is what I am doing at 8:48pm on a Monday night) Someone pass me a beer! :toast:
 

Nanny22

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 2, 2014
6,647
43,788
Michigan
I am in Michigan, and though I am not a current customer of Killer Juice, out of the possible locations you mentioned for the store, I would recommend Novi. I live there and it's centrally located with good freeway access from several major routes. We already have Hookah lounges nearby, a thriving Main Street downtown area with tons of restaurants, bars, movies and the largest mall/shopping area anywhere around. The traffic of customers is already here. I don't think either of the other choices can boast those things, nothing against them, it's just location..location..location. Good luck with the new venture!

I would like to amend my comment above if you are thinking of taking over the Wild B's in Novi (Maple Rd. at Pontiac Trail). This location is *not* near the high traffic area of town with good freeway access, restaurants, theaters, bars, etc. It is actually on the outskirts with the city of Walled Lake across Maple and Commerce Township across Pontiac Trail. You are probably aware of that if you have been in to look at the building. It is an older strip mall with Salvation Army and a Dollar Store, I believe. If you can get closer to Interstate 96 and the Novi Road area you will have much more visibility and a better location.
 

MikeNice81

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Feb 24, 2014
3,497
5,468
NC
It is all good, thanks Mike. You know I see a lot of companies rip people off on shipping and I think that has been one of our greatest selling points on here. We try our best to ship the cheapest we can. Sadly the eggs are not small. We have to use a box to ship them and the boxes have weight to them, so does the packing inside of it. First Class mail only covers up to 13 oz. We are always higher it seems, and well Priority has not been any better. I have one customer that is still waiting for his 10 days later.

My goal is to make a e-liquid company that has the highest customer service, quality, and variety of products. Still it would be nice not to fill out these FDA batch reports... UGH (That is what I am doing at 8:48pm on a Monday night) Someone pass me a beer! :toast:

I know how it goes. I ran my own music production business. There is nothing like being cussed out for "ripping off" a band when you actually lost money doing their project. Better yet, when they call you a rip off for charging more than the guy recording in his parent's garage while you're using a Nashville studio with a $2.5 million studio and platinum engineer.

No matter how hard you try somebody is going to call you a rip off or a con artist at some point. It always stings a little.

Paper work sucks. Government regulated paper work is even worse.
 

Reddhott

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Mar 19, 2011
37,734
152,758
cartoon land,usa
well on my part i was just going to make a order in support of walt. ive ordered before.but the shipping wasnt that price before.
i wasnt in real need of anything. but i still am on a budget so i couldnt make a order. but a friend picked up somethings for me as they were putting in a order.
i pif all the time to people who need things sooo i do package everything up and send alot out so I DO know how much it costs.:)
Nope fivefour. I was just commenting on what you said because it was in support of his argument. He was definitely displaying a ton of ignorance and disrespect.
 

Cranky99

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 6, 2014
974
4,116
Iowa, USA
I understand where you're coming from but this person was just rude. They could've PM'd Walt, to discuss this off the thread.

I did order three eggs and I know I'm getting all the big gift cards. Walt, when I use my winning GC, will I have to pay for shipping? rotf!
I will be getting the giant minions and fully expect to pay shipping but promise to share a pic of my happy son who keeps spying the pics of them when I'm in this thread.
 

JoanJ

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 4, 2014
19,354
21,303
WV
Mike, even I... imagine that :) questioned the shipping costs. Was explained that this shipping is because of the eggs and the regular USPS will return after the egg deal. Then you think about the low cost of the juice and what the little bottles cost, there isn't much meat left on the bone so I sucked it up and decided I needed the Purple Peeps, Swedish Fish, Boysenberry Pancakes and the 2 Venom juices now and 4 eggs. That was 105 ml juice for under $30 with shipping... still not bad...not bad at all :) and eggs :)
 

a wandering soul

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Feb 27, 2014
3,620
5,396
North Carolina
Excuse my rage, it is was not professional but I feel it had to be said and showed.

Buddy you are good. It was professional enough for how upset you likely were. We might not agree on the best mailing/shipping agent (im die hard usps for life lol(wait i see this was special due to the size of the eggs)) I definitely agree w how you are handling your business. Quality customer service is worth more than just more $ in your bank acct. Its how you win over customers for life! And the slight 'loss' you take on every order is far exceeded by the average cost of creating a new repeat customer! Its what keeps companies in business. .

I was already going to become a customer after trying shamrock shake & boysenberry pancake. They are the first thing that made me want to put down custards last stand! Thats saying something. ..

But after seeing how you conduct yourself in this forum & that reply about shipping you really won me over! You may (and who knows) lost a customer. . But you have gained at least one.. (w the caveat that I have to get a job first). & I bet im not the only one!



I can has tapatalked this.
 
Last edited:

MikeNice81

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Feb 24, 2014
3,497
5,468
NC
Mike, even I... imagine that :) questioned the shipping costs. Was explained that this shipping is because of the eggs and the regular USPS will return after the egg deal. Then you think about the low cost of the juice and what the little bottles cost, there isn't much meat left on the bone so I sucked it up and decided I needed the Purple Peeps, Swedish Fish, Boysenberry Pancakes and the 2 Venom juices now and 4 eggs. That was 105 ml juice for under $30 with shipping... still not bad...not bad at all :) and eggs :)

74 ml of my favorite juice costs that much and it doesn't come with contest eggs. 60 ml of the juice I really want costs more than that.

You questioned the price, but you were respectful about it and you actually thought it out. A huge difference.
 

JoanJ

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 4, 2014
19,354
21,303
WV
I was already going to become a customer after trying shamrock shake & boysenberry pancake. They are the first thing that made me want to put down custards last stand! Thats saying something. ..

But after seeing how you conduct yourself in this forum & that reply about shipping you really won me over! You may (and who knows) lost a customer. . But you have gained at least one.. (w the caveat that I have to get a job first). & I bet im not the only one!



I can has tapatalked this.

You are why I ordered the Boysenberry Pancakes LOL Shamrock Shake was the first I ordered and it was love at first poof
 

Walt83

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Dec 9, 2013
1,799
4,818
United States
I would like to amend my comment above if you are thinking of taking over the Wild B's in Novi (Maple Rd. at Pontiac Trail). This location is *not* near the high traffic area of town with good freeway access, restaurants, theaters, bars, etc. It is actually on the outskirts with the city of Walled Lake across Maple and Commerce Township across Pontiac Trail. You are probably aware of that if you have been in to look at the building. It is an older strip mall with Salvation Army and a Dollar Store, I believe. If you can get closer to Interstate 96 and the Novi Road area you will have much more visibility and a better location.

Ok I will make a comment on this. The Novi location is not a take over place... I was looking at moving EVERYTHING there... You have a company I use a lot right next door. Ok enough about that lol
 

Walt83

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Dec 9, 2013
1,799
4,818
United States
I will be getting the giant minions and fully expect to pay shipping but promise to share a pic of my happy son who keeps spying the pics of them when I'm in this thread.

You know what Cranky99, I am in a good mood. I actually have 3 Giant stuffed Minions! Message me a past order number (so I can get your shipping info) and your son can have this one! (it keeps staring at me in my office anyways!)
 

Penguins17

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 10, 2014
1,335
405
Pittsburgh, PA, USA
I always have terrible timing with your sales Walt, just got a 120ml order, and a few hundred bucks worth of gear in the mail. No easter eggs for this guy.

I'll still get myself a giant chocolate bunny though. Anyone always eat the head first. It is empowering, or maybe I just don't want my food staring back at me. Good thing juice can't scream :p I would imagine it would be like the witch from oz melting.
 

Purplepeeps

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 10, 2014
1,144
1,378
Syracuse, NY
You know what Cranky99, I am in a good mood. I actually have 3 Giant stuffed Minions! Message me a past order number (so I can get your shipping info) and your son can have this one! (it keeps staring at me in my office anyways!)


Walt, you're so sweet to offer up the Minion to Cranky99's little boy!

 

demlevis

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Mar 20, 2014
411
525
Omaha, NE
You know what Cranky99, I am in a good mood. I actually have 3 Giant stuffed Minions! Message me a past order number (so I can get your shipping info) and your son can have this one! (it keeps staring at me in my office anyways!)

Walt - you are one quality individual.

Why don't you move the operation to Omaha? :p

Not even getting involved in the shipping conversation. The eggs are an outlier, a bulky item, and...optional. If you don't want to pay the price, don't add them to the cart. 'nuff said.

btw - I really need to stop concentrating on work. I miss all the fun stuff!

:matrix:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread