I'm interested in trying out a variable volt pv. I have been looking at the Provari and in fact have one in my shopping cart right now. I am hesitating because of the price. Should I or should I not? Is it really that much better?
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It's one of the two top PV's on the market. I have the Darwin instead of the ProVari and have found that it is more than worth it. I am a very heavy, constant vaper and I get 21+ hours on one charge with the Darwin. Since the Darwin automatically adjusts the power level to the atty as the resistence of the atty changes, the consistency and throat hit of the Darwin is unparalled. Plus there is the flexibility that a good VV PV gives you. I think it is more than worth it.
How much better is it? Well, I Pre-ordered one, waited a month for it to come. Out of the box it had a slight blem. I contacted them. . .they told me to return it for cure. Two and a half months later I finally decided I could get along without it long enough to return it. I was without it for about a week. Never so happy to get something back in my life. And my life has been going 66 years. Order it! JMHO
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otrpu
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otrpu
Honestly depends on your collection of Attys and Cartos. If you want to try everything out there, at lots of different OHMS, then yes: VV is for you. Want to try every manufacturer of cartos and attys? Then VV is for you. Want to try lots of different juices at different PG/VG/PGA ratios? Then VV is for you.
A good VV will allow you to test and find that sweet spot your looking for with whatever combination you find. It is not necessary, as once you find that sweetspot of watts on a particular atty and juice, you could duplicate it with a Fixed volt mod. Just easier with a VV as your no longer locked to anything.
A good VV will allow you to test and find that sweet spot your looking for with whatever combination you find. It is not necessary, as once you find that sweetspot of watts on a particular atty and juice, you could duplicate it with a Fixed volt mod. Just easier with a VV as your no longer locked to anything.
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I can only speak for myself on the subject, but I do love my ProVari and the ease of being able to up and down my voltage on one device without using a meter or a screwdriver...that said, using the screw driver and the meter on the Buzz I had really wasn't that big of a deal...I just prefer the ease of using the push button/digital display on the ProVari. I also love being able to test the ohms on my cartos and attys. It helps me pick the right voltage to vape them at and it's just good to know the ohms. Checking battery life is also something I find useful. Being able to turn off the annoying button LED is lovely and to be able to power down the device completely is another useful feature. If you think you'd used the features it provides, it is indeed "that much better" IMO.
I can only speak for myself on the subject, but I do love my ProVari and the ease of being able to up and down my voltage on one device without using a meter or a screwdriver...that said, using the screw driver and the meter on the Buzz I had really wasn't that big of a deal...I just prefer the ease of using the push button/digital display on the ProVari. I also love being able to test the ohms on my cartos and attys. It helps me pick the right voltage to vape them at and it's just good to know the ohms. Checking battery life is also something I find useful. Being able to turn off the annoying button LED is lovely and to be able to power down the device completely is another useful feature. If you think you'd used the features it provides, it is indeed "that much better" IMO. 
I use my Provari more than any other mod I have, including a bottom feed mod. I change flavors often sometimes and some flavors are better at a higher voltage. It is nice to be able to change quickly. The Provari is also very durable. I don't know how many times it has accidently fallen out of my shirt pocket, but it always fires like a champ.
YES provarie all the way you will never regret it at least i have not.This is a great mod as is all of theres at provape.So easy to use makes all combos work.
Durability is one of the things I was worried about. As careful as I try to be, I think I have dropped every pv I own.
The Darwin does look interesting. Is it as durable? I would think the connector might be a weak spot with that. I think it might be easier to read and I like the idea that it is self regulating.
Has anyone heard of the Eclipse which is supposed to be released soon? I'm thinking that sounds mighty interesting too.
No, the darwin is not very durable. It is made of aluminum, but the LCD screen is exposed. There is no sealer on the case halves so juice can get in very easy. There is also no seal around the atty connector so if you flood an atty or a carto leaks, it will get inside the Darwin. There is no catch cup. Also, there is no epoxy inside, so if you drop it, the entire board takes one hell of a hit. The one and only time I dropped mine, it stopped working. There is a spring loaded cut off switch that popped loose when I dropped it. Easy enough to fix. It is an "at home" unit, as its durability just makes it too delicate for any accidents to happen.
Provari is a beast. Its all stainless steel. Has a catch cup, you can flood it all you like: its sealed up nicely. If you drop it, the concrete will take as hard a hit as the Provari does. The display on it is 1/16 in bellow a protective cover, so If you sit on it, it wont shatter like my darwin will.
The Darwin carries a FULL 2 year warranty. Do you think they would provide the best warranty in the business if it wasn't well built???
I never seen anyone "bad mouth" a PV the way you do the Darwin. You have some real problems.
There have been numerous posts of people needing to send back the ProVari due to issues. But "fan boy" stownz fails to mention that even though he knows it's a fact. The ProVari is a fine PV and I'm sure they stand behind it. You don't have to lie by omission or trash other PV's to make a point. With the ProVari you may have to wait a week or two for a repair. With the Darwin, at least some ECFer's have posted when they did have an issue, a new one was over-nighted to them. All PV's, especially new ones, will have problems with some of the ones they make. Overall, the Darwin is very sturdy and well built. And it's 2 year warranty is twice as long as the ProVari at NO extra charge.
Fan boy stownz has an agenda and being unbiased and honest is not part of that agenda.
I own them both. I state my opinions on everything I purchase, good and bad. I have made plenty of bad purchases, and I post quite freely about them all. I dropped the darwin, so I posted the effects of that. I even posted how to fix it. I flooded the insides because of a leaky CE2r4 seal.
Would you rather me lie?
Actually, that is precisely why I posted my query here rather than on the provape thread. I felt most of the readers of that thread would be "fan-boys" and I wanted honest opinions. So thank you for yours, Stownz.
Another question about the Darwin....I understand the battery in the Darwin will last a long time between charges. But since it's an internal battery, do owners only charge it at night while they sleep? How long does it typically take to charge up? The provari uses removable batteries which means I can always have a fresh battery standing by for use. I'm thinking this might be a plus for the provari. On the negative side, I've heard the provari is pretty heavy. I keep heavy duty flashlights in many rooms around my house. I find I keep picking them up, imagining they were a pv and wondering if I could get used to vaping on something that weighed that much. lol
Another question about the Darwin....I understand the battery in the Darwin will last a long time between charges. But since it's an internal battery, do owners only charge it at night while they sleep? How long does it typically take to charge up? The provari uses removable batteries which means I can always have a fresh battery standing by for use. I'm thinking this might be a plus for the provari. On the negative side, I've heard the provari is pretty heavy. I keep heavy duty flashlights in many rooms around my house. I find I keep picking them up, imagining they were a pv and wondering if I could get used to vaping on something that weighed that much. lol
Towards your original question --- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/147480-potential-buyers.html
Posts 16 + 18 have an index of the big ProVari thread.
As far as weight -- Prior to the ProVari, I had a Precise 16; the weights are similar. Much heavier than an eGo for instance. I've gotten used to a heavier PV and actually prefer it for the same reason as Stownz -- It's sturdy.
Just as an aside --- most of the readers at the ProVape sub are not "fan- boys" fortunately. A carefully worded query and reading of the responses would get results.
Whatever you decide -- vary is the way to go. It improved my vaping exponentially. Worth the $ to me.
Posts 16 + 18 have an index of the big ProVari thread.
As far as weight -- Prior to the ProVari, I had a Precise 16; the weights are similar. Much heavier than an eGo for instance. I've gotten used to a heavier PV and actually prefer it for the same reason as Stownz -- It's sturdy.
Just as an aside --- most of the readers at the ProVape sub are not "fan- boys" fortunately. A carefully worded query and reading of the responses would get results.
Whatever you decide -- vary is the way to go. It improved my vaping exponentially. Worth the $ to me.
Yes it is a little heavy not that bad though just weighed it for you with 18650 battery and atty 6.2oz can of diet coke 13 oz.Gives you a comparison.One of the things i like better on provarie is what you mentioned you can change to a new battery at all times.This is a very solid device.I have not had a prob. with mine don't expect too.I had a provape1 had trouble with 1'st one they sent replacement then mailed them the broke one.Provape has been around a long time with great customer satisfaction.If i were to lose or brake mine i would buy it again and again.
Yes, you have to charge the darwin at night, sometimes sooner. It does have a huge battery capacity, but I run through over 6ml a day. It will last all day at 10 watts on a LR, but I kill it right before I get off work (10 hours) if I use some HR 3.5 ohm cartos. So good to have a back up. I let my wife use it, and she got 3 days out of it before recharging. So just like all bats, it depends how much you use it. You can vape on it while it charges though, and it charges pretty quick.
Picking up flashlights? haha, don't think the provari is that heavy. You can keep it small if you use the 18490 bats. Saves a little weight. Thing is, its stainless steel.
Nice, you already have the bats and charger ! Your halfway there already !
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