Tomorrow is the day -- help unboxing and setting up, please!
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Don't worry about having to kill the battery before you charge, the analogy referring to a tank of gas is incorrect, sorry.
Batteries last for a certain number of cycles but a cycle is a full 100% charge.
So if you kill it, that's a cycle. But if you only go to 50%, charge, drop to 50% and charge again still just one cycle. Most rechargeable batteries are optimized nowadays, but the previous generation like Nokia bricks circa late 90s would perform best and last longer if you kept them between 80-40%.
So if you're fogging up the house but want to top off the battery before you hit the road, don't trip just charge it and you're fine.
Btw congrats on the decision to quit the death sticks.
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Don't worry about having to kill the battery before you charge, the analogy referring to a tank of gas is incorrect, sorry.
Batteries last for a certain number of cycles but a cycle is a full 100% charge.
So if you kill it, that's a cycle. But if you only go to 50%, charge, drop to 50% and charge again still just one cycle. Most rechargeable batteries are optimized nowadays, but the previous generation like Nokia bricks circa late 90s would perform best and last longer if you kept them between 80-40%.
So if you're fogging up the house but want to top off the battery before you hit the road, don't trip just charge it and you're fine.
Btw congrats on the decision to quit the death sticks.
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Okay I'm confused.......Let me use deductive reasoning.
1) Triton batteries use the ion core technology
2) DaveOno's consultant is his insider expert
I read the Triton manual and I googled the ion core technology batteries. I am going by what DaveOno told me his consultant said about these batteries. I trust the information from my friend DaveOno who has actually used these Triton batteries for over 3 months. I admit I am a total noobie at all this new technology. Just sayin'
1) Triton batteries use the ion core technology
2) DaveOno's consultant is his insider expert
I read the Triton manual and I googled the ion core technology batteries. I am going by what DaveOno told me his consultant said about these batteries. I trust the information from my friend DaveOno who has actually used these Triton batteries for over 3 months. I admit I am a total noobie at all this new technology. Just sayin'
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which ever way is more correct, the end result is maybe the battery lasting 11 months verses 11.5 months. It's no big deal.
The gas tank analogy isn't correct, though, 300 half cycles isn't the same as 300 full cycles.
In theory, 300 half cycles is the same as 150 full cycles, however from what dave is saying, that doesn't work out in practice and you're better off with 150 full cycles than 300 half cycles. However, I don't worry about it, I recharge when convenient, so that maybe half battery or 3/4 of a battery, whatever. It's not going to make a huge difference at the end of the day.
tl;dr recharge when convenient
The gas tank analogy isn't correct, though, 300 half cycles isn't the same as 300 full cycles.
In theory, 300 half cycles is the same as 150 full cycles, however from what dave is saying, that doesn't work out in practice and you're better off with 150 full cycles than 300 half cycles. However, I don't worry about it, I recharge when convenient, so that maybe half battery or 3/4 of a battery, whatever. It's not going to make a huge difference at the end of the day.
tl;dr recharge when convenient
You are right, Chesty. Theory and actual based on inspection of the spent batteries are 2 different things. And the end result might be moot, as you say.
It does depend on the depth of discharge, the temperature, and the circuitry of the DoD and the charging rates. Many factors. What is much more of an issue is high temperatures. They should never be kept in a car in summer, for instance.
I think it's also similar to the argument of whether or not it's better to shut off a pc, or just log off and leave it running. The device will be outdated and retired long before a shut off induced failure.
The next technology of batteries in the very near future will change vaping more than any other item. Batteries half the size of a G6 with 's 2,000mAh capacity.
If what I'm hearing proves true, we'll laugh about using these huge Li-ion pipes!
It does depend on the depth of discharge, the temperature, and the circuitry of the DoD and the charging rates. Many factors. What is much more of an issue is high temperatures. They should never be kept in a car in summer, for instance.
I think it's also similar to the argument of whether or not it's better to shut off a pc, or just log off and leave it running. The device will be outdated and retired long before a shut off induced failure.
The next technology of batteries in the very near future will change vaping more than any other item. Batteries half the size of a G6 with 's 2,000mAh capacity.
If what I'm hearing proves true, we'll laugh about using these huge Li-ion pipes!
Are Triton batteries Lithium-ion batteries like iphones are Lithium-ion batteries?
Yeah, pretty much.
There's 4 major variations of lithium batteries (and a dozen more, with rare chemistries used for industrial processes).
Okay I have enough experience with my cell phone battery to understand how to treat the Triton then, thanks.
Yeah, just don't use them as drumsticks 
To get the best life out of these lithium cells, it's best to use it fully, until it lets you know it's time to recharge. Honestly, I don't think it'll make a big difference.
It's best to go with the right battery to start; recharging a 400 mAh 5 times a day, leaves a life expectancy of two months. I recharge my 900s every other day, so I'm good for 2 years.
To get the best life out of these lithium cells, it's best to use it fully, until it lets you know it's time to recharge. Honestly, I don't think it'll make a big difference.
It's best to go with the right battery to start; recharging a 400 mAh 5 times a day, leaves a life expectancy of two months. I recharge my 900s every other day, so I'm good for 2 years.
Again, good point, BB. In cells this size, it is not a big deal. I wonder how R&D is going at Tesla Auto...
The 2 biggest enemies of Li-ion is high temps, and compromising the integrity of the battery by dropping, breaking, abusing. Although it'd be tough, as they are encased very well.
The 2 biggest enemies of Li-ion is high temps, and compromising the integrity of the battery by dropping, breaking, abusing. Although it'd be tough, as they are encased very well.
UGh...this is giving me a headache. Can we just vape now? 
<<<< same face I had in trig and calculus class. lol 
<<<< same face I had in trig and calculus class. lol 
According to BatteryUniversity.com, you will extend the life of your battery if you recharge it before it dies.
I think the Triton battery is rated at 500 cycles. In other words, from full to empty is one cycle. Now, if you only discharged it 50% before recharging, you would think that you would then get 1000 cycles. However, due to some sciencey reasons, you actually get 1500 cycles!
How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University
Charging Lithium-Ion Batteries
They also seem to recommend turning it off before you charge. Parasitic charging (device ON) can negatively impact battery life, apparently.
I think the Triton battery is rated at 500 cycles. In other words, from full to empty is one cycle. Now, if you only discharged it 50% before recharging, you would think that you would then get 1000 cycles. However, due to some sciencey reasons, you actually get 1500 cycles!
How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University
Charging Lithium-Ion Batteries
They also seem to recommend turning it off before you charge. Parasitic charging (device ON) can negatively impact battery life, apparently.
Well that's different to what dave is saying, and it's different to what apple says.
dave is saying use until almost empty, apple says two 50% cycles is exactly the same as 1 cycle, and zombo is saying 3 50% cycles is the same as 1 cycle.
to be honest, I've just come home from a whisky tasting meeting and I like the peaty scotches the best, nice and smoky.
has anyone seen my pants?
dave is saying use until almost empty, apple says two 50% cycles is exactly the same as 1 cycle, and zombo is saying 3 50% cycles is the same as 1 cycle.
to be honest, I've just come home from a whisky tasting meeting and I like the peaty scotches the best, nice and smoky.
has anyone seen my pants?
Does the trition have 0 charge when the light starts blinking? I'd say there would be a small amount of charge left over, enough to make it blink at least. If these batteries were meant to last forever, halo wouldn't sell them solo.
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All I know is my previous cell phone, I charged it everynight whether it needed it or not and at 10 months the battery started to not last the whole day anymore and by 14 months it would only stay charged for 4 hours before needing re-charged, very aggrevating. I finally had to change the battery completely out for a new one. It was very expensive to have this battery replaced, it should have lasted me through my 2 year contract on that phone. The man told me not to charge the phone until it dropped down to 1%-2% but not dead before charging. With my current phone, I've only charged when it dropped to 2% and my contract runs out in July and my phone still lasts until 9-10 pm and 6pm with heavy contest posting. LOL So my 1st iphone battery lasted 10 months before battery life decreased and my 2nd iphone has lasted 19 months before the battery life decreased. This was my experience with my phone battery. My first was the iPhone 4 and my 2nd is the iPhone 4S. Time will tell how the Triton performs.
whew, thanks for stepping in Chesty, I wasnt able to get back on the interweb until now.
Cell phone batts and ecig batts tho are sooooo diff and so many things can drain a cell batt. Like display features on the home screen, brightness set, different alerts/notifications and iCloud syncing.
I thought I read somewhere that Halo batts do not have a "memory" as far as charging when it's drained or half batt left. I think when it's toast, it's toast regardless of how it is charged. I thought its more determined/last by a certain number of charges it will take. Like 400 or something like that but I could be wrong. All my batts are still working and my first one I bought in mid August. BUT....I don't use them as much as I use my VVs.
My first VV was purchased about the third week in August. Hope I didn't jinx myself now..
getting a little off topic, but my android's battery after 2.5 years was only lasting 8 hours, so I went on ebay and bought a new battery for $5. It's not a genuine samsung battery, the genuine one was $35.
I'm not sure about batteries, but apple products in au have a 24 month warranty standard, they try to tell you it comes with a 12 month warranty and you can extend it to 24 months by spending another couple hundred dollars, but by au law, it's 24 months without the extended apple warranty.
While I'm off topic, things are more expensive in au for no reason, it's more expensive to buy adobe software in australia than it it to buy a return ticket to the usa and buy the software in the usa. believe it, or not.
I'm not sure about batteries, but apple products in au have a 24 month warranty standard, they try to tell you it comes with a 12 month warranty and you can extend it to 24 months by spending another couple hundred dollars, but by au law, it's 24 months without the extended apple warranty.
While I'm off topic, things are more expensive in au for no reason, it's more expensive to buy adobe software in australia than it it to buy a return ticket to the usa and buy the software in the usa. believe it, or not.
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