Speaking of amending lists.
Mine a year or so later
Ahlusion
Good Life Vapor
The Plume Room
AltCig
Mine a year or so later
Ahlusion
Good Life Vapor
The Plume Room
AltCig
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ok so i gotta know.....i've been curious.
what is the name of the vendor that is removed (pm me if need be) and WHY has it been removed?? what rule/s did it break??
what is the name of the vendor that is removed (pm me if need be) and WHY has it been removed?? what rule/s did it break??
Agreed. But longevity would also be reflected in a new thread. For example, if somebody still has BB & GJ from AVE (which has been around for a while now) as a favorite, then they will still vote for AVE again. That would not change.
Here is just one of the problems with the current "poll":
"A lot has changed in the last two months since I started experimenting with new (to me) vendors. My updated list:"
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-top-5-vendors-e-liquid-271.html#post10556010
Only 1 out of his original 5 made it to his revision. After just 2 months of experimenting.
As vapers try out new brands, they discover some that they just like better. Their old favorites drop off, replaced by something they never even heard of just a few months ago.
How many favorites have changed from a year & a half ago? A year ago? 6 months ago?
The old votes have already been recorded, which are reflected in the the most-recent tally. How many people bother to update in this thread whenever there's a change? I'd wager very few.
I also think perhaps that's one possible reason why there hasn't been a new tally in almost 2 months.. It's just too much of a pain to try to keep track of!
As for Mrs. T's, it's not just that people are waiting 2+ months for their orders, but also apparently that the juice is no longer nowhere near as good as it used to be, that it's now mediocre, at best. Does that still deserve a very respectable #12 spot? Due to the number of votes, mathematically-speaking it will take a loooong time to even knock it down to #20 or whatever (where arguably, should probably be a lot lower than that, still).
Anyway, I understand this thread is your baby, but people should keep in mind the limitations of the whole thing, that the results are skewed, heavily favoring those which were good/popular 1.5 years or 1 year ago. That's not longevity. That's stale data in a quickly-changing industry.
One thing to remember is this list is a compilation of peoples opinions which may not match your own. There are some in the top portion of the list I would not buy from at all - some of which I have tried in the past. Some I cannot figure out why people want to order from them. There are some that are lower on the list (very low) that I think are better than ones at the top. Others would disagree and that's OK.
This list is just a way to see what other people have liked over time. It was never a "Current E-Liquid Quality/Service Ranking". I can see were people could interpret that way but it would be an incorrect assumption.
FYI, I plan on updating the list this weekend. Been a busy few months for me.
HHV is still my top five 
Even after a year has passed
I haven't visited the E-liquid section of the forum, well, since HHV got our own sub-forum. I'm happy to see this thread is still going and NK is still tallying. Great job Mann and NK! Kudos!
Even after a year has passed
I haven't visited the E-liquid section of the forum, well, since HHV got our own sub-forum. I'm happy to see this thread is still going and NK is still tallying. Great job Mann and NK! Kudos!
HHV is still my top five
Even after a year has passed
I haven't visited the E-liquid section of the forum, well, since HHV got our own sub-forum. I'm happy to see this thread is still going and NK is still tallying. Great job Mann and NK! Kudos!
Good to see you too, Ms. Braveheart!
I haven't kept up on this thread.... What are your top 5 now Mr. Mann? Are you still infatuated with Ahlusion? It's been about a year since you started with Wlad, hasn't it?
I haven't kept up on this thread.... What are your top 5 now Mr. Mann? Are you still infatuated with Ahlusion? It's been about a year since you started with Wlad, hasn't it?
Still very much a fan of his work, and yes, on my top 3 actually. I am pretty much clear now on what comes from where and who is capable of what. But these days I honesty vape more EcoPure Rich than any other vendor-made liquid--too bad it's quite a task to get it into the country.
I like the list, I've posted to the list and thanks for what you've done with it, and Mr.Mann too. It has aimed this vape noob at reliable vendors/juices.
What I will add is that the list is subjective in that a reliable, quality vendor can make 3 juices and I only really like two of them where someone else only liked the one I didn't but had a different favorite vendor. every body follow this?
RESULT: I added my vendor to my list of five, the other didn't list the vendor at all. So.... subjective
The list's info could have more value, IMHO, if the data was trended over time. Like 4/year or quarterly
This would require that the votes be listed in order of preference so that the result would show moves up/down in the ranking.
Therefore, vendor VV, that ranked 2 consistently during the first 4 months, may go to 4 or 5 during the last 8 months and be replaced in slot 2 by vendor BB.
OR... What new kid said...
Just a thought, probably more work and no, I don't do spreadsheets.
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I like the list, I've posted to the list and thanks for what you've done with it, and Mr.Mann too. It has aimed this vape noob at reliable vendors/juices.
What I will add is that the list is subjective in that a reliable, quality vendor can make 3 juices and I only really like two of them where someone else only liked the one I didn't but had a different favorite vendor. every body follow this?
RESULT: I added my vendor to my list of five, the other didn't list the vendor at all. So.... subjective
The list's info could have more value, IMHO, if the data was trended over time. Like 4/year or quarterly
This would require that the votes be listed in order of preference so that the result would show moves up/down in the ranking.
Therefore, vendor VV, that ranked 2 consistently during the first 4 months, may go to 4 or 5 during the last 8 months and be replaced in slot 2 by vendor BB.
OR... What new kid said...
Just a thought, probably more work and no, I don't do spreadsheets.
I like the list, I've posted to the list and thanks for what you've done with it, and Mr.Mann too. It has aimed this vape noob at reliable vendors/juices.
What I will add is that the list is subjective in that a reliable, quality vendor can make 3 juices and I only really like two of them where someone else only liked the one I didn't but had a different favorite vendor. every body follow this?
RESULT: I added my vendor to my list of five, the other didn't list the vendor at all. So.... subjective
The list's info could have more value, IMHO, if the data was trended over time. Like 4/year or quarterly
This would require that the votes be listed in order of preference so that the result would show moves up/down in the ranking.
Therefore, vendor VV, that ranked 2 consistently during the first 4 months, may go to 4 or 5 during the last 8 months and be replaced in slot 2 by vendor BB.
OR... What new kid said...
Just a thought, probably more work and no, I don't do spreadsheets.
This list IMHO is one on the forum that, since it is not bound by time constraints (hurry-up-and-vote nonsense), is relatively honest (barring any vendor sending emails/PMs for their customers to vote; please, vendors, don't interfere). The list serves a purpose, but it was never meant to be the end-all-be-all of anything--just a list to show what names pop-up the most and how often they have. Hell, it has also served the unintended function of, not just a popularity list, but a list of vendors to check out--I've used it to reference names I'd forgotten.
I don't really get the need to know who's trending this way or that way. Maybe I've just been at this for long enough that I can tell that without a list. The forum tells me what I need to know about what people are talking about, and it does change. Ecto Plasma anyone? LOL
Here is the absolute biggest point that everyone needs to get: the only way this list, or ANY list for that matter, will ever speak to the veracity of the votes for "best of" is that those who vote would have to have experience with ALL vendors (impossible, though billherbst and Kent C got more experience than most of us on the forum). It's all skewed (and so is every other list), but I honestly do like to see unique names pop up more than the same names. My new list will have (I believe) the vendor at 154. Go figure.
You know, I thought about doing what Gato talked about and logging in the numbers per 6 months or so, but I don't want this thread jacked for ballot stuffing. Because it's on going and may have no end, it will stay about as honest as it can get.
And, speaking of honesty, I started this thread last year: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...fter-year-more-i-still-buy-vendors-juice.html. That's something either you can attest to or not.
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Actually, if I see updated I will try to find the original post, but that can take a loooong time. If I don't find it, I will ask them to update and include what their first was, or post a delta.
I basically go on the honor system. We would probably see monkey business if some one were "stacking" the votes. Along the way it is possible I double counted someones votes but I try to read them all clearly. If in doubt I ask it. If it does not look like a vote, say more like commentary, it may not get counted.
Had I envisioned this going so long, I would have done something different to tally the counts. I kept it in a simple excel. Going back and starting over would be a long task. Takes me over an hour to do it one every month or so with a few hundred posts.
Just updating my list:
In no particular order:
1. NiteLiteVapor
2. PinkSpot
3. Roar
4. Fuzion
*Note to person who tallies all the votes. Perhaps you shouldn't include this post unless you compare it to my previous ones, so as to not give any vendors double points.
So I can update, what was your previous list?
Unless my (advanced) search engine for posters posts is giving me false results, supermarket has only 3 posts in this thread, but the updated list was the only post of a list.
Interesting list, I can't find the web sites for these vendors.
Oooooh… I like updating this list… because it changes and changes…
1. Innevape!!!!
2. Grizzly Vapes (steammonkey)
3. Goodejuice
4. BWB
5. Halo
1. Innevape!!!!
2. Grizzly Vapes (steammonkey)
3. Goodejuice
4. BWB
5. Halo
And just so you know, LT, there are many of us that follow along with your adventures in eliquid.
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