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simple one worth sharing.

50% strawberry
48% lemon
2% koolada
1 drop sour per 5 mls.
mixed this at 18mg 40/60 w/ 12% flavoring. can't put it down. might up the lemon next time, or try tfa's lemonade instead. have that sitting here and not sure what the difference is.

Please use standard conventions in the future. We should not have to break out the calculator to figure it out.

50% of 12% = 6% strawberry
48% of 12% = 5.76 % Lemon
2% of 12 % = .24%

Total flavoring = 12 %

Also, your drops are not my drops. Mine are 36 drops per ml.
See this for what I mean

Finally, if you like it, put a name on it!

OK............this is where I get confused. As a new person getting into DIY, is there a "standard" on how much flavor should compose the entire mix. This is 12% flavoring. The calc I'm using says flavor should be at 20% of mix. Is it best to start out say at 10% and move up??? Guess I need to find a DIY 101 class, LOL!
 

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I mix most of my flavors at between five and twenty percent. When I test a new flavor I start at 2.5% and work up from there. You can always add more, very easily, but taking it out can get to be a mathematical nightmare and end up with way more liquid that you may not like. Just sayin.
 
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When you say to add flavor..........assume you mean an entire new bottle?

If no...then do you just add a few drops and shake/steep again?

Also, while I'm asking dumb questions...I've read some folks talking about hot steeping or something like that. What's the process and does this speed things up versus just letting the bottle sit?
 
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First, I am no expert at DIY. I have "lucked out" and managed to find a couple of all day flavors that I like fairly quickly, so experimenting can take as much time as I feel like spending on any new flavor.

When I say add flavor I mean adding another one or two percent to an existing mix. Everyone has their own methods. Mine is based on patience! I mix a 5ml batch for a new flavor, let it steep the "old fashioned" way for a week or more, then test. If I add more flavor it's another week or more before I try it again. It is a sloooowwwwww process, but the one I use. I'm in no rush and have the time.

Steeping can also be done by adding some gentle heat. Another, really fast method, is to use an ultrasonic cleaner with a heater. Usually the temperatures used when heating are around 120 degrees, kind of hot to the skin but not really all that hot. Adding some shaking to the heating helps as well. Someone uses a game controller from a WiI, I think, to add some agitation. Conventional steeping usually takes at least a week and may take as long as a month depending on the flavors and percentages. Ultrasonic steeping might take a couple of hours. Steeping with heat and agitation can take as long as overnight. These are general times and everyone's times seem to vary according to taste.

Like I said, everyone has their own methods and techniques developed, usually, by trial and error. DIY is more of a hobby for most of us so that kind of works out fine. Above all, patience is a virtue with DIY.
 
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OK............this is where I get confused. As a new person getting into DIY, is there a "standard" on how much flavor should compose the entire mix. This is 12% flavoring. The calc I'm using says flavor should be at 20% of mix. Is it best to start out say at 10% and move up??? Guess I need to find a DIY 101 class, LOL!

No, there is no real standard. The rule of thumb has been 20% total flavoring(max). ejuicemeup is designed around that figure. Total % really depends on the manufacturer of the flavors. They all differ. Just because they say "Lemon", don't assume they will be the same strength. My approach is much like awsum's in that I start with ~5% and go from there. Most of the time I try to keep flavors at 5-8%. If it takes much more than that I move on to other flavors but thats just me. Remember that if you use to much of a flavor it will lessen the taste or become chemical or perfume tasting. The only request(not a standard) is to use %'s in the recipes. That way other can repeat it.
 
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No, there is no real standard. The rule of thumb has been 20% total flavoring(max). ejuicemeup is designed around that figure. Total % really depends on the manufacturer of the flavors. They all differ. Just because they say "Lemon", don't assume they will be the same strength. My approach is much like awsum's in that I start with ~5% and go from there. Most of the time I try to keep flavors at 5-8%. If it takes much more than that I move on to other flavors but thats just me. Remember that if you use to much of a flavor it will lessen the taste or become chemical or perfume tasting. The only request(not a standard) is to use %'s in the recipes. That way other can repeat it.

Ok, so when someone is showing a % (unless it totals 100 like Seames5's from previous), is it safe to assume that is the % of total mixture much like your recalculation of his numbers?
 
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Ok, so when someone is showing a % (unless it totals 100 like Seames5's from previous), is it safe to assume that is the % of total mixture much like your recalculation of his numbers?

Yes, Generally speaking. If I were to say 10% flavor x and 5% flavor b. I am telling you to add 10% of flavor x of the entire mix and 5% flavor b of the entire mix. That way if Susie wants to make 5mls and Sam wants to make 10mls they both have the proper proportions to make the mix.

This is generally the way in which recipes are express.

Of course everyone being different, some folks use different techniques.
 
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OK............this is where I get confused. As a new person getting into DIY, is there a "standard" on how much flavor should compose the entire mix. This is 12% flavoring. The calc I'm using says flavor should be at 20% of mix. Is it best to start out say at 10% and move up??? Guess I need to find a DIY 101 class, LOL!

Every flavor is different. There are some flavors at 20% that will make you throw up they are So strong. You really have to take each flavor on it own. I have flavors that I use >.1% and some that I will use 15-20%. There is no standard flavor percentage. You can check the flavoring threads and see what others think as a starting point. Also, use your senses, smell and taste. It's always easier to add flavor than remove flavor.so, start low and work up.
 
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Ok, so when someone is showing a % (unless it totals 100 like Seames5's from previous), is it safe to assume that is the % of total mixture much like your recalculation of his numbers?

Yes, Generally speaking. If I were to say 10% flavor x and 5% flavor b. I am telling you to add 10% of flavor x of the entire mix and 5% flavor b of the entire mix. That way if Susie wants to make 5mls and Sam wants to make 10mls they both have the proper proportions to make the mix.

This is generally the way in which recipes are express.

Of course everyone being different, some folks use different techniques.


Thank you VERY MUCH !!! Wife and I have some flavors coming and we liked many of the "recipes" we've found here, so this should be very interesting.
 

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Well, My TFA watermelon is about less then half way gone only a 10ml bottle to try, so last night I thought humm wonder if i could mix with some vg and vodka and get me some more time with it. So new 15ml bottle. 1ml Watermelon (premixed) and 1ml Vodka ( wanted to try this rather then the distrilled water) and i used 11.5ML VG shook for about 3 minutes put in my clearomizer and vaped all night and have all day today, i really like it, still haves pretty good flavor. I did look on MFS and see you can get watermelon TFA non mixed and you can get LA non mixed not sure what one to get when I do get to order more for mixing.
 
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This is a recipe i call Fuzzy melons. It's my second attempt at a melon flavor. after i made it i vaped 30ml in 2 days. it's been my adv all week now in a carto tank.

6% Peach
3% Watermelon
3% Honeydew Melon

total 12% you could probably add some koolada to it .

Honeydew Flavor TFA
 
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Blueberry Creamy!

Blueberry 15%
Vanillin 3%
bavarian cream 2%
ethyl malto 1%
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?? Blueberry Flavor (Extra) TFA or Blueberry (Wild) Flavor TFA
Vanillin Crystals 10% PG TFA assumed Ethyl Maltol Liquid (10% PG) TFA

Time for a new report as soon as you get back.
 
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