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chino82489

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So I got myself an eGo-V and with some 1.5 ohm stainless dual coil tank cartomizers and tanks to go with. I'm getting very little vapor production. The Throat hit is pretty good but I'm getting little vapor and little flavor. My juices are a mix of PG and VG but I'm not sure what the amount of each is. I'm hoping it is just the cartomizers that are low quality. I am vaping an apple flavor from madvapes.com and papa smurf from delawarevapor.com and the papa smurf gives me a good hit but the apple gives me little to nothing and I'm not feeling the nicotine after.
Can anyone offer some advice on how to get the best out of these products?

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Are you using the same type of carto for both flavors, or even the exact same carto itself? It's possible one of the cartos is no good, but also possible that the vg percent is higher in the one producing more vapor. Try the same carto ( if your not already) with the other juice when you vape it dry (or nearly so) and see what the output is with the apple used in the same carto you have the papa smurf in now. If the vapor production is better then its the one carto that may be bad, if its still not vaping as well as the smurf, then it's a difference in the juices.

What brand cartos are they? Do the juice bottles not have the vg pg ratios printed on them? They usually do. As for the nicotine effects, you may have too low concentration of nic. What % or mg are these juices?

Need more info, if you can provide it.
 

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Hi Chino. Sadly the eGo units do not have enough voltage output or amperage output to run a dual coil cartomizer like it should be run. That is why you are not getting the performance you anticipated.

For your dual coil cartos you will want a device that can withstand over 3 amperes of current draw, and a voltage somewhere around 5volts. You have a large amount of coil surface area to heat your liquid because of the two 3 ohm coils, problem is they each are only going to produce around 5.3 watts of power, twice even running at 4v On your eGo-v. So you likely have a fairly wimpy vapor because of the amperage limit beginning to top off at around 4v. I am next to certain the eGo-v can only put out ~2.5amperes of current.This means that the unit itself cant handle the low ohm load carto much above 4v, if at all.

Since you can adjust the voltage up to 6, and have a mid-sized amperage limit, you would do best to shop for a carto that total ohm load would be around 2.5 if you like to run on the hotter side, or 3 ohms for the full range of adjustability form your PV. I would suggest a single coil cartomizer for the unit you have. Smoktech makes a single coil cartotank unit with the flange and holes, or you could just get some XL sized units from Boge or Smok and punch your own holes. If some of this doesn't make sense, ask for clarification. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.
 
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chino82489

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Hi Chino. Sadly the eGo units do not have enough voltage output or amperage output to run a dual coil cartomizer like it should be run. That is why you are not getting the performance you anticipated.

For your dual coil cartos you will want a device that can withstand over 3 amperes of current draw, and a voltage somewhere around 5volts. You have a large amount of coil surface area to heat your liquid because of the two 3 ohm coils, problem is they each are only going to produce around 5.3 watts of power, twice even running at 4v On your eGo-v. So you likely have a fairly wimpy vapor because of the amperage limit beginning to top off at around 4v. I am next to certain the eGo-v can only put out ~2.5amperes of current.This means that the unit itself cant handle the low ohm load carto much above 4v, if at all.

Since you can adjust the voltage up to 6, and have a mid-sized amperage limit, you would do best to shop for a carto that total ohm load would be around 2.5 if you like to run on the hotter side, or 3 ohms for the full range of adjustability form your PV. I would suggest a single coil cartomizer for the unit you have. Smoktech makes a single coil cartotank unit with the flange and holes, or you could just get some XL sized units from Boge or Smok and punch your own holes. If some of this doesn't make sense, ask for clarification. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.

So can you tell me what kind of battery I should get to run 1.5 and 3.0 ohm cartos? I'm not exactly happy with these batteries because it seems like they can't perform to what I anticipated. I just want a good battery or two (variable voltage preferable) that can perform very well and run low and higher ohm cartos and attys?

I was looking at the volcano inferno batteries, but I am not sure if they are what I want. I don't like the giant size of the lavatube, and the inferno batteries may not be what I want. What do you think?
 

chino82489

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Are you using the same type of carto for both flavors, or even the exact same carto itself? It's possible one of the cartos is no good, but also possible that the vg percent is higher in the one producing more vapor. Try the same carto ( if your not already) with the other juice when you vape it dry (or nearly so) and see what the output is with the apple used in the same carto you have the papa smurf in now. If the vapor production is better then its the one carto that may be bad, if its still not vaping as well as the smurf, then it's a difference in the juices.

What brand cartos are they? Do the juice bottles not have the vg pg ratios printed on them? They usually do. As for the nicotine effects, you may have too low concentration of nic. What % or mg are these juices?

Need more info, if you can provide it.

No, I am using two different cartos and they are from this site: Ego Dual Coil Cartomizer 3.5 mL Tank Kit This is the exact kit that I purchased and this is also the sight that I got the apple juice from. So far these juices just say that they are a mix of both VG and PG. Apple is 11mg and smurf is 12.

I got the eGo-V from gotvapes.com and it seemed like the right battery for me at the time but it seems to burn my juice more than anything and I set it to 3.7volts, which is what these cartos are supposed to be able to take.
 

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chino, like Iusedtoanalog said, the main issue is that you have dual coil cartos, instead of single coil cartos. I have the same battery and I know it is just fine for the singles. If I were you, I would buy a couple of punched stainless steel single coil cartos at between 2 and 3 ohms and try them in your tank. I found these at Sure Vapes. If you decide to try this, email them first and ask if these are long enough to fit your tanks.

Hope this helps and happy new year!
 

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So can you tell me what kind of battery I should get to run 1.5 and 3.0 ohm cartos? I'm not exactly happy with these batteries because it seems like they can't perform to what I anticipated. I just want a good battery or two (variable voltage preferable) that can perform very well and run low and higher ohm cartos and attys?

I was looking at the volcano inferno batteries, but I am not sure if they are what I want. I don't like the giant size of the lavatube, and the inferno batteries may not be what I want. What do you think?

Hi again Chino. The volcano batteries are not for you if you plan on running dual coil cartos. Those cartos are what you should consider changing. If you want to run a tank setup with a long carto there are many options for you that are not dual coil. On your eGo-V you should be running a single coil cartomizer, between 2-3 ohms. Most Vapers that I know enjoy the performance of flavor, vapor output and throat hit right around 8watts. As an example, if you wanted to vape at 8.3watts of power with a single 3ohm carto, you will need to supply 5volts to the cartomizer. This will draw 1.6667amperes of current from your battery. Now for that same 8.3watts PER COIL (your 1.5ohm dual coil carto is a pair of 3ohm coils wired parallel to achieve 1.5ohms total load)on your dual coil carto you will need to supply the same 5v BUT the amperage output required to run the 1.5 ohm carto goes up to 3.334amperes of draw. If your device can't supply this amperage output, then some part of the circuit suffers, be it the battery, reglator or just lack of output from inability to drive the load. If you must run a dual coil carto then you will want to change your device to one that can do so reliably(and safely). If you just want to run a vv setup, the right advice for me to give you is to change the type carto used on your device.

The volcano inferno batteries are a regular battery, non adjustable. I believe the kit thay have with the 1.5ohm carto tank is a single 1.5ohm carto. Actually you have the closest thing that I personally can think of in the mid size(eGo class) battery that may be able to do ok with that carto choice. Your unit has a known ampere limit of about 2.5(some say3) ampere limit. This amperage limit will allow you to run a single coil carto between 2-2.5 ohms all the way up to 6v(which is approaching 18watts of output) which is way too hot for most anything I have ever wanted to vape all day. Your unit is very capable of giving you great performance, just not so capable of great with the DC carto you have chosen to top it with.

If you find that it is imperative that you run a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto setup to be satisfied, the only production PV that comes to mind with a high ampere limit is the Zmax(which is 4 I believe).That amperage limit of 4amperes would allow you to run a dual coil carto allthe way up to 6v(allowing up to a very warm 12watts per coil). I'm not too sure of anything else that goes that high on a production model APV. I am pretty much outside the production APV market so maybe somone else will be able to chime in on other options with same such or higher amp limits. If you are a handy person that can follow a shematic, solder a few pieces together, place it in an enclosure test and build, I could point you to the modders forum and you could build a unit with easy to get parts, with capabilities up to 10amperes of output, but it will be much larger than an eGo class device.
Enough of the math class. Go out and vaper your face off, with whatever you got that works well for you. Like I sid before If you have any other questions, just ask we will try to get you the info you are looking for.
 
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