I had some of the Djarum Black Clove juice from LiteCig (just standard Dekang juice you can get at a bunch of resellers), and it doesn't taste like clove cigs at all. It taste like you took a clove (the baking kind), ground it up and made it into juice. There's no sweetness at all. I trashed it. So I figure your best bet is going to come from places that make their own juice.