True Hybrid

[Bad Ninja]

I was just wondering if it had a threaded delrin disc inside the tube.
If it does, it's a no-go.
Delrin threads wear out fast in a switch.

 

[Tom Forde]

I was just wondering if it had a threaded delrin disc inside the tube.
If it does, it's a no-go.
Delrin threads wear out fast in a switch.

If you get the shorty switch version, the whole legendary ring & switch shouldn't be of concern. The posi contact at the bottom of the mod is held in like this:

and then you have the other half of then contact, the clutch plate which is held in by the actual switch assembly. The Lengendary version has the same material in the lock ring but I've not had ANY problems in my time owning this mod. And it's been my daily mod ever since I got it. I've never even taken apart the lock ring in the switch to clean it because it's never warranted cleaning. Never got juice down there or dropped it in the dirt or anything. It's a very sturdy, solid mod.

Their website doesn't say if it's delrin or not but it hasn't failed me ever & ive thrown some stupid low builds in there. The mod may get warm but the button always stays cold.

 

[Bad Ninja]

That's what I thought.

The Vicious Ant Valkyrie also has a delrin/plastic/not metal disc holding the lower contact in place. It's a design flaw and killed a wonderful hybrid.

It's a no go.

That ring will eventually become loose.

Why make a mod out of metal and add a plastic part to fail is just beyond my comprehension.

 

[mhertz]

Thanks for pics, but of the reviews i've seen they never take that plastic housing out, so how is it seated i.e. threaded in or what?

 

[sig-cmt]

The polymer housing around the positive pin is held in by way of friction. Recommended removal tools include a plastic hammer, a couple of sockets and possibly more. This video is what steered me away from the current crop of SOI mechanicals...



It's all good @Tom Forde...I still love SOI products...I just didn't want to go through all of that to remove and clean the positive.

 

[mhertz]

"That's the hard part... If you can get this down without destroying your mod you've done a good job", direct quote, lol

Thanks alot sig-cmt. I was seriously contemplating getting a clone of this, to hold me over until the roundhouse clone becomes available at FT/FC, but i'm pretty OCD with these things and strip'em down and clean after maybe 3 days continous use sometimes, so this is not for me either. I don't feel comfortable banging on contacts continously or banging things into copper tubes, plastic or not... It's of course debateble how much oxidation comes into insides/under of the "press-fits"(tube and contact), but nonetheless... Of course this would probably yield a smaller VD than if e.g. adding a threaded in metal-part, well, probably non detectable, but nonetheless, so it's both a good design for VD and a bad for regular maintenance/longevity...

Thanks again mate!

 

[Tom Forde]

The polymer housing around the positive pin is held in by way of friction. Recommended removal tools include a plastic hammer, a couple of sockets and possibly more. This video is what steered me away from the current crop of SOI mechanicals...



It's all good @Tom Forde...I still love SOI products...I just didn't want to go through all of that to remove and clean the positive.

I've never had to remove my posi contact as of yet & I've had the mod since early January. I've cleaned the clutch plate & copper threading around the switch but have never needed to remove anything. Trust me when I say this mod is solid. It won't falter easily, and I haven't heard of any complaints with the posi contact or the mod yet

 

[mhertz]

Thanks Tom The positive pin can of course be cleaned in-place, but just slightly bothersome from the other side, where the battery touches the contact. Although nothing to make a big deal out off...

I'm intrigued about the "stable" 360 degrees 8-piece good-surface area contact the clutch makes and no pitting on battery and no hot-button. Maybe it also doesn't arc so much? I've noticed that hot-buttons also can come from arcs in low builds on a mechanical(abrubtly on/off) switch and not just from bad springs or switch-designs...

 

[Bad Ninja]

Thanks Tom The positive pin can of course be cleaned in-place, but just slightly bothersome from the other side, where the battery touches the contact. Although nothing to make a big deal out off...

I'm intrigued about the "stable" 360 degrees 8-piece good-surface area contact the clutch makes and no pitting on battery and no hot-button. Maybe it also doesn't arc so much? I've noticed that hot-buttons also can come from arcs in low builds on a mechanical(abrubtly on/off) switch and not just from bad springs or switch-designs...

Just wait until that "polymer" disc wears and isn't a friction fit.

I've owned two mods with plastic parts/disc holding contacts in the switch.
They suck and are a very poor design.

Subzero is substandard.

 

[mhertz]

Yeah, I get your concerns and also am not really a fan of that specific design-approach, but i'm still intrigued by the clutch-plate 8 point 360 degrees contact-points, though

Would love to see some VD test comparisons... Not just a single VD test, because that's not really useful, as we don't have similar cells and conditions...

 

[Bad Ninja]

Yeah, I get your concerns and also am not really a fan of that specific design-approach, but i'm still intrigued by the clutch-plate 8 point 360 degrees contact-points, though

Would love to see some VD test comparisons... Not just a single VD test, because that's not really useful, as we don't have similar cells and conditions...

Lol
"Clutch plate"

Just grabbing words that sound industrial and using then however they please.

 

[mhertz]

I'm sorry mate I don't have much knowledge about machining/tools/part-names etc... 'Clutch contact' is the manufacturers own wording...

" - 8-point Clutch Contact for maximum consistency and efficiency"

Edit: Oh, directed at the manufacturer, not me, I see now Sorry. Although maybe it was my mixup that was the wronged part...

 

[Bad Ninja]

I'm sorry mate I don't have much knowledge about machining/tools/part-names etc... 'Clutch contact' is the manufacturers own wording...

" - 8-point Clutch Contact for maximum consistency and efficiency"

Edit: Oh, directed at the manufacturer, not me, I see now Sorry. Although maybe it was my mixup that was the wronged part...

Yes it was a crack at the manufacturer's weak attempt at sounding innovative yet "industrial chic".

 

[Froth]

Anyone eyeing up the Ruby Clone?, recently listed on FT and a few other places. For $20 I might take a chance on it being crap or the negative posts pulling out of the deck.

$20.99 KENNEDY 24 Styled RDA Atomizer + 18650 Mechanical Mod Kit - 1*18650 / brass + stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Waiting for FT pictures to be uploaded instead of mfg pictures, might make my decision then.

 

[McAnythingReally]

$21.48 KENNEDY 24 Styled RDA Atomizer + 18650 Mechanical Mod Kit - 1*18650 / brass + stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

FT Listed another version today with photos from them. Im not gonna sit here and BS though. I am a clone lover, through and through, but when it comes to this mod specifically, I am not comfortable buying a clone. MY biggest concern comes off the fact that the K24 clone I just received had some issues with the Positive pin on the 510 side(Using for reference). Most notably being that it wasnt machined flat, and the insulator was a complete mess. With this mod we really have no way to get in there and inspect and do any nessecary cleanup if need be, and to me that screams safety hazard right off the rip. This is one that if I were to get it, Ill cough up the $235, or wait for some solid reviews from the FT users that I trust.

 

[javyn]

GP Heron, JM22 tube, GP Paps switch

Heron, Tesla Biomech

Aqua V2 dripper mode, Biomech

Aqua V2 + Launcher, Papsoid (Heron + Paps)

Aqua V2 + JM22/Paps

Spring replaces hybrid nut on Aqua 2 to remove battery rattle from non-telescopic 20x1mm tubes.

I love 20x1mm hybrids as you can see

Never bothered with TOL or Elm. The dripper looks crappy and the SS JM tubes are much prettier to me than the TOL tubes.

The 3D atty doesn't interest me, but I wish they'd make more options for true Nemesis hybrid. Not holding my breath though.

 

[Saintskinny51792]

Just got a 3D for my Nemisis! love the concept of this lil bugger! Gonna build it tommorow and check out the squonky/plunger deal, It may be good for out and about. My first True hybrid setup is completed he he shinyitis Got me again. Any tips on building this guy?

 

[Saintskinny51792]

GP Heron, JM22 tube, GP Paps switch

Heron, Tesla Biomech

Aqua V2 dripper mode, Biomech

Aqua V2 + Launcher, Papsoid (Heron + Paps)

Aqua V2 + JM22/Paps

Spring replaces hybrid nut on Aqua 2 to remove battery rattle from non-telescopic 20x1mm tubes.

I love 20x1mm hybrids as you can see

Never bothered with TOL or Elm. The dripper looks crappy and the SS JM tubes are much prettier to me than the TOL tubes.

The 3D atty doesn't interest me, but I wish they'd make more options for true Nemesis hybrid. Not holding my breath though.

I used to have an aqua, always wondered why the 510 came off like it did... after I got the 3d I was unscrewing the 510 to put it on my nemmi and it hit me like a freight train... I bought it when I thought HYBRID meant no 510 pin...too bad It got lost in the move

 

[Bad Ninja]

I used to have an aqua, always wondered why the 510 came off like it did... after I got the 3d I was unscrewing the 510 to put it on my nemmi and it hit me like a freight train... I bought it when I thought HYBRID meant no 510 pin...too bad It got lost in the move

Hybrid neans no 510 THREADS.

 

[Verb]

Mmm that's sexy. Nice black slam cap up top. Atleast with the fat dragon it looks like the slam cap.
My suggestion (I would call this set up a hybrid) SOISZ24 atty & mod - I'd say with a Legendary switch even with the added height because if you go legendary, you can go shorty switch, but if you go shorty you can't go legendary unless someone is willing to trade with you. But if you don't care about the legendary switch, the shorty comes in multiple colors, with the 24mm hybrid atty in matching colors. View attachment 542630 View attachment 542631Since this particular set up is a hybrid, the mod itself comes with a 510 top cap as well & all silver plated copper contacts. All of the ceracoated versions are copper as well.

How does the atty vape compared to the Kennedy 24?