True Hybrid

[Tom Forde]

How does the atty vape compared to the Kennedy 24?

Compare to a K24, the draw is more airy however you can close off the airflow. And you also have the option for single coil. My biggest con with it is the size of the juicewell (pretty small), but compared to a K24, they both vape great & have their certain differences that give them both a place in my rotation. Like I prefer the pop top on the subzero24 to having to remove the full cap on the K24 & the ability to close off the airflow fully when I put it in my pocket, though I've never had my K24 leak in my pocket. The vape is great off the both of them.

Thanks Tom The positive pin can of course be cleaned in-place, but just slightly bothersome from the other side, where the battery touches the contact. Although nothing to make a big deal out off...

I'm intrigued about the "stable" 360 degrees 8-piece good-surface area contact the clutch makes and no pitting on battery and no hot-button. Maybe it also doesn't arc so much? I've noticed that hot-buttons also can come from arcs in low builds on a mechanical(abrubtly on/off) switch and not just from bad springs or switch-designs...

I just saw this post but 2 months later & multiple builds below .1 later, I still don't have arcing. No arc marks anywhere on contacts or the batteries used in the tube.

 

[Verb]

That's what I thought.

The Vicious Ant Valkyrie also has a delrin/plastic/not metal disc holding the lower contact in place. It's a design flaw and killed a wonderful hybrid.

It's a no go.

That ring will eventually become loose.

Why make a mod out of metal and add a plastic part to fail is just beyond my comprehension.

I received a SOI subzero hybrid (24mm atty/shorty switch) a couple of weeks ago. There is really no way for the delrin disk or the pin to push loose. The tube is stepped and the pin is flanged. Both could be loose and the function would not be hindered. There's nowhere for them to go with a battery in place. If the delrin disk broke, it would be easy to machine and replace from rod stock.

The switch throw, hand feel, and voltage drop put the mod up there with some of the best performing mech mods. Performance is the focus over durability and simplicity. Plus, it requires less frequent cleaning & maintenance than typical. Where the hybrid really shines is the atty. It suits my built style well and delivers a vape quality I have not found before. Quite a lovely experience. Vape satisfaction level up!!!

 

[Bad Ninja]

I received a SOI subzero hybrid (24mm atty/shorty switch) a couple of weeks ago. There is really no way for the delrin disk or the pin to push loose. The tube is stepped and the pin is flanged. Both could be loose and the function would not be hindered. There's nowhere for them to go with a battery in place. If the delrin disk broke, it would be easy to machine and replace from rod stock.

The switch throw, hand feel, and voltage drop put the mod up there with some of the best performing mech mods. Performance is the focus over durability and simplicity. Plus, it requires less frequent cleaning & maintenance than typical. Where the hybrid really shines is the atty. It suits my built style well and delivers a vape quality I have not found before. Quite a lovely experience. Vape satisfaction level up!!!

Did you watch the video on how to service the delrin disc?
Im guessing you havent.

 

[Verb]

Did you watch the video on how to service the delrin disc?
Im guessing you havent.

I did. Your posted observations and the video initially kept me away from it. I was given two gift certificates for my B-day to my goto B&M. Of what they stock, it was the best choice. After using it daily, I'm glad I was limited. My worries were unfounded. I can clean the pin in place. I can't think of a reason for doing the pin removal as a part of any routine maintance. Things would have to be pretty buggered up and in need of a rebuild to go that far.

One huge negative is the battery positive down design.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I did. Your posted observations and the video initially kept me away from it. I was given two gift certificates for my B-day to my goto B&M. Of what they stock, it was the best choice. After using it daily, I'm glad I was limited. My worries were unfounded. I can clean the pin in place. I can't think of a reason for doing the pin removal as a part of any routine maintance. Things would have to be pretty buggered up and in need of a rebuild to go that far.

One huge negative is the battery positive down design.

That would kill it for me.
There is no advantage only added unnecessary risk.

 

[ccwaters]

That would kill it for me.
There is no advantage only added unnecessary risk.

And it is not a must do, just toss it in positive up.

 

[mhertz]

It's crazy watching that mentioned video, lol! However, the intent was to replace the copper pos-connection with a silver-plated, and first, that's not mandatory, and second, the clones already have that(although I would rather have a copper connection, as many clones with silver plating have brass or even SS connection under the plating). As Ninja said, if it breaks then it's not good, but it seems to take one hell of a pounding to even come slightly loose. Also, with clone prices, then you're not really taking any risks imho...

I'm still debating wether I want one... I go from adding and removing it from cart based on the moons orientation that day or whatever... I lately annoyingly get hit by customs maybe 1 in 3 purchases, which sets the price up 5 fold... If wasn't for that, then I would add it nonetheless, as the price is fine for a 24mm copper tube imho... Clone that is If it was a pinless-510, then I wouldn't even have to think about it though... First criteria for me personally is performance too(with simplicity being a very close second), as I don't wanna build lower than absolutely needed, for enhanced battery life/longevity...

 

[ccwaters]

Just do it, I doubt very much you will be disappointed, as already mentioned when assembled the battery holds everything solid, none of the plastic is going to easily wear, yes if your going to tear it apart constantly then the potential for problems exist. However I really do not see any need to take it apart, everything is easily cleaned without doing so. of the 50 or so mechs I have the two I have are my favorites.

 

[mhertz]

Thanks mate, I appreciate the insight

Edit: Crap! First it got removed from FT some time ago, which didn't matter as FC had it still, but now FC droped them too! I thought about getting the black painted Copper with matching hybrid RDA, only because the straight copper version looked like clear-coat also on threads, although could be manually removed...