Trying to step onto the diy train but.....

[Breezy Dawn]

I have a few (few,lol ) things on the way to me to start this new adventure but i want to make sure my plan is a good plan. One thing i know is, im ascared of 100mg nic. so that in mind i ordered the nic base in my 12mg all VG. Then i got thinking with all the flavors its not going to be 12mg,SO then i ordered some 18mg in PG base. Im thinking, If i add 10% of the 18 Pg along with flavors it will be more nic than 12mg but close,right? This would bring my pg/cg closer to what im used to,being 80 vg. I dont care to be exact,just close to 12 to 14 mg and close to 80vg. I cant stomach the idea of mixing nic,pg then vg then flavors...that just doesnt appeal to me. I have found and copied a handful of recipes and think im ready..am i ready?
Also to make it easy i think im going to mix my vg/pg in 30 mls then use as i need to add to flavors,sounds easy like this..i think...its part of my plan

 

[BrotherBob]

You lost me with all the mg and "pg/cgtalk". Looks like you going for high VG? Just order the nic with VG. This way you should not have a problem with too much pg present in the vape. Let the calculator do the math.
If you do not understand what I said above, you might not be ready?

Also to make it easy i think im going to mix my vg/pg in 30 mls then use as i need to add to flavors,sounds easy like this..i think...its part of my plan

Suggestion, start out simple with one flavor in your first series of mixes. Make no more than 5 ml. and let it natural steep for 1week, test, and test again after 2 weeks (might have to steep longer like tobacco flavor or others) depending on the flavor.
Might want to check out:
Sir2fyablyNutz DIY info.
Is there a "one stop shop" for DIY?

 

[Breezy Dawn]

Suggestion, start out simple with one flavor in your first series of mixes. Make no more than 5 ml. and let it natural steep for 1week, test, and test again after 2 weeks (might have to steep longer like tobacco flavor or others) depending on the flavor.

When all of this comes in,my plan was to mix the pg and the vg that already has the nic together. Make it 90vg 10pg. Use it as i need to make up flavors. Im not going to make 30 mls at a time. Sounded like a good idea to me,but ive never done this

 

[herb]

If you like the recipe i would definitely mix a bigger batch , your going to end up spending a lot more time on mixing if you don't .

Mixing smaller batches is when your unsure of how it's going to turn out flavor wise imo . Your method sounds overly complicated to me and i hate complicated because i'm no good at it so it makes sense, i only understand "idiot proof" .

You really should not be afraid of the 100 mg nic if you know how to measure accurately , i was afraid of it at first but realized how much more juice i could make for far less money .

I use "e juice me up" calculator as it seemed the easiest and all you do is follow a recipe you like because it does all the work for you . I vape 14 mg nic so i just put 14 mg nic in the box and it asks what mg nic you have so i put 100 mg nic in the box and so on , thats as idiot proof as you can get imo and i'm a pretty big idiot so thats says something.

You also just put in what PG/VG ratio you want your recipe to end up being and of course e juice recipes gives you the flavoring percentages for each flavor . The calculator tells you the exact amount of PG/VG to add to end up being what you want .

You then hit the "calculate" button , if i could do it you can definitely do it because nobody's as dumb as i am .

Hope this helps

 

[Breezy Dawn]

I really wanted to use this premixed unflavored but it goes from 12mg to 18mg. I already know 18 is to much for me by trying it before. So i thought i can get in between there by adding some 18 to 12. Maybe the better question would be how much to add to get to 14mg?

 

[sketchness]

My first order was 36mg nic in vg. Then 60mg. Then 100mg in short order. I mix max vg. I don't really mess with pg unless mixing for friends with tanks.

Understanding how to get to your desired nic level is an important concept. E juice me up makes it simple. But you should still know how it is calculated in a general way. You are using nic where it can't hurt you. So there is that. But you will eventually want more flexibility if you like DIY. Plus shipping is way cheaper when you buy 100mg and gallons of vg from essential depot.

Best of luck and let us know if you get stuck.

Edit. Equal parts 12 and 18mg will give you 15mg base. 20% flavor would get you to 12mg strength

 

[Broodmance]

you might be better off getting around 36mg nicotine. depending on what your needs are 36 will cover alot of ground. thats what i started with because i'm clumsy and scared of hire stuff. i currently use 60mg nicotine and vape at 3mg so its works out to be cheaper for me to use that. eventually i switch to 100 if i feel the need.

as has been mentioned, use an online calculator. i use http://..................../ which allows me to save my recipes for later use. make small batches and test. I like to shake and vape then set it aside for a few days then try again. i do this for around month total on 10ml samples. Good luck. It can be alot of fun once you get over the learning curve.


edit: link not working but i use e- liquid-recipes. com for my calculator

 

[mcclintock]

I bought 100 mg nic in case I ever need to add nic without much affecting anything else. However I mostly use it diluted to 1/3 that for safety, and to make a pre-mixed base (about 2.2 mg). This base I use for small mixes but don't make a whole lot at once. If I mix 10 mL or more, then I do it straight from the seperate PG, VG and dilute nic.

15 mg is halfway between 12 and 18, so that would be 50/50 (but reduced by flavoring). At this point I'd say mix it in a reasonable PG/VG ratio and the nic will be close but not exact. Remember to shake/mix anything with nic well before using, especially larger bottles you're mixing from.

 

[misterholidayhouse]

I for one think the OP chose the right path for first time mixing. I did the same thing. I currently vape 6mg juice so I ordered bottles of 6mg premixed base from Nude Nicotine. I also ordered some 12mg so my finished product would be 6mg by volume after flavoring. It's easy to calculate the ratio after determining the total percentage of flavoring that will be used. I believe this is what the OP is attempting to do. Worked for me to get me started without having to mess with concentrated nicotine.

 

[JD1]

If you have Windows, then +1 on E Juice Me Up. It also has a nic combine screen that can help you with combining your two bases. It's under the tools menu or the little x3 button toward top left. Just put some numbers in to get started, then adjust up or down from there. Example, say you want 10 ml of base to work with, then put in 8ml of your 12 and 2ml of the other and see what that gives, then adjust from there.

Yes a little added complexity but you'll be able to handle it until you order new supplies. I order 100mg, pour half into another container and add my base to double the amount but at 50mg, then store both in freezer but only work out of one until it's empty.

Remember that your flavors are going to affect your calculations also and E Juice Me Up can help with that. If you have any troubles, just post back. There's a few sharp knives in the drawer here (not me lol) and I'm sure someone will help you.

I'd also recommend doing both single mixes and recipes. You need to do singles to learn your flavors, but if a more complex recipe appeals to you and you have the flavors, why not give it a try? Might get you on to a fave a little faster that way. Good luck and post back with any problems. Welcome to diy.

 

[Breezy Dawn]

I was just looking at these calculators Thanks i am installing that 1 now,going to play with it but wont have my order till middle of the week. Im going to stick to recipes ive found and go from there.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I use 100nic base... makes the math easier and its not as scary as everyone has made it out to be.. but still, dont let pets, kids around it and dont rub your eye after handling it...

 

[Capt.shay]

Well, kind of hard to give you advice on your order since you have already made it.

I don't know why people shy away for 10% (100ml/l). What do you think it will do to you? It's not caustic, it won't burn your skin or anything. If you spill some on you, you wash it off. Period. I have had my hands covered in it. I just got up and washed them off. That was it. No reaction what so ever. If it worries you that much then wear gloves but really, while caution is prudent, 10% is no more dangerous than a lot of the cleaners under your sink.

Pre-mixed bases? Why? Juice has four ingredients. Nic., vg, pg, and flavor. That is all you have to measure. Four things. It is easier to do than a Betty Crocker cake mix (but a little harder to do well, just like baking). With pre-made bases you percentages will often get messed up because you rarely use the same percentages for each flavor so if one recipie calls for 10 percent flavor and another calls for 22% and you are using the same base then they are going to be 11% different. Add the ingredients as you go. It is the most flexible and accurate.

Get a scale. Get a scale. Get a scale. Time effort and energy will be saved if you measure by weight and the only people that will tell you otherwise are people that have not tried it yet.

Best of luck and report back with your experiments.

 

[Breezy Dawn]

Well, kind of hard to give you advice on your order since you have already made it.

I don't know why people shy away for 10% (100ml/l). What do you think it will do to you? It's not caustic, it won't burn your skin or anything. If you spill some on you, you wash it off. Period. I have had my hands covered in it. I just got up and washed them off. That was it. No reaction what so ever. If it worries you that much then wear gloves but really, while caution is prudent, 10% is no more dangerous than a lot of the cleaners under your sink.

Pre-mixed bases? Why? Juice has four ingredients. Nic., vg, pg, and flavor. That is all you have to measure. Four things. It is easier to do than a Betty Crocker cake mix (a little harder to do well, just like baking). With pre-made bases you percentages will often get messed up because you rarely use the same percentages for each flavor so if one recipie calls for 10 percent flavor and another calls for 22% and you are using the same base then they are going to be 11% different. Add the ingredients as you go. It is the most flexible and accurate.

Get a scale. Get a scale. Get a scale. Time effort and energy will be saved it you measure by weight and the only people that will tell you otherwise is people that have not tried it yet.

Best of luck and report back with your experiments.

Im sure im over the top worried but i have kids. It doesnt matter how high up it is or childproof caps,whatever is still going to effect my thoughts. My oldest can open childproof stuff and he is autistic so i do try my best to check off as many possible threats i can,right down to my cleaners and they are homemade,pretty safe. I know anything can be a threat but if i can eliminate a few threats i will.

 

[Capt.shay]

Well, those are some special situations and circumstances. I guess the lower percentages might be best with those parameters. If your boy should drink some, you are still making the ride to the ER but lower percentage is lower and therefore safer in that respect. Oral ingestion of Nic. is really quick to absorb and hard hitting.

One of the calculators will help you balance your blends. Best of luck with your mixing. It is a lot of fun and can save you money as well as make you more independent of the current pending Regs.


Oh, and get a scale

 

[scotdc]

Your idea about mixing up 30ml of PG/VG and Nic base is how I do it for samples. I mix about 120ml of base at one time and then make several test flavors of 5 to 10 ml each. If I like the sample, I will mix a larger 30ml bottle from scratch.

I suggest increasing the nicotine level of your base mix by about 10% more than your normal nic level, because your recipes will dilute the base by about that much. It will give you a better idea about how the final recipe will turn out.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

If you use the 18mg nic and add 20% flavoring (which is usually PG based)straight to it you will get an 80VG/20PG mix at about 14.5 nic level. At 10% flavoring you would get a 90/20 at about 16 mg nic. I think that's how those low level nic solutions are intended to be used. Just add straight flavoring to them and you should be good. The difference between 14.5 & 16mg nic levels is basically nothing unless you are sub-ohming it.