Turkish!

[dannyv45]

I've got my hangsen TB as well. I mixed up a 30mL 55/45 batch at 12mg with 1.75mL of Turkish blend. I miss the throat hit of 18mg. I taste the flavor, but it feels muted. Is it me? Or does the juice need to steep? (Sry to thread jack. And thanks for the recommendation!)


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If you don't want to raise the NIC try adjusting the PG higher.

 

[dannyv45]

Ah! I'll try the 65/35 mix at 9% myself. Usually I put the bottle (being it's glass) ontop of my lava lamp base a bit for 5 minutes and rotate it. I figured the heat would help steep it.


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THis really needs to steep longer then 5 minutes. Tobaccos need at least a good 2 - 3 week steep. You can speed up the time but that would require an investment in a crock pot or heated UC. In a crock pot heated to 150F it would take 3-4 hours shaking it every hour or so. It would take the same amount of time in a heated UC but you don't need to shake it.

 

[dannyv45]

You can take the cap off for 24hours but it's better to do it near the end of the steep. Leaving the cap off is important for flavors containing alcohol but I don't think Turkish has it.

Taking the cap off airates the unwanted alcohol off and it should be done after steeping not during. I found airing is not nessessary for the turkish or any hangsen mix for that matter. A loosing of the cap after 2 hours of heat steeping to let out the pressure then tightening again is all that's required.

 

[dannyv45]

I couldn't taste it. I read Danny posting about using it in tobaccos, so I figured why not try it? It was only a 5ml batch. He's still liking the flavor, so no harm done at this point.

Later testing found that ACV although does help initially does mute flavor in the long run. It's a last resort for trying to bring flavor back that has faded over time. I've since re-written my blog to include that bit of information. I have tested this and have noticed a mute in flavor myself after a period of time.

 

[Huckleberried]

I'm glad you posted that. I didn't read that update..

Have you tried Distilled White Vinegar? I read somewhere that someone tried it and didn't get muting. Next batch I'll make it without, see what happens.

Have you noticed the same with lemon juice & fruits?

 

[dannyv45]

I'm glad you posted that. I didn't read that update..

Have you tried Distilled White Vinegar? I read somewhere that someone tried it and didn't get muting. Next batch I'll make it without, see what happens.

Have you noticed the same with lemon juice & fruits?

Lemon will have the same muting result as ACV.

 

[Huckleberried]

Helpful info. Thanks Danny.

 

[Huckleberried]

I enjoy it by itself. EM is good for rounding out the flavor but it also kills the throat hit for me. Adds a bit of sweetness as well. ACV initially intensifies the flavor but over time makes it more muted.. So unless you make a small batch just enough to vape over a week or two, I would stay away. And yes, please do let me know what you think of 8-9% concentration after a month - either by posting here if the thread is still active, or else by PM. Good luck with your new hobby.

So the results: (from him)

Hangsen Turkish 8% with 1 drop ACV per 5ml a little over a month steeped, shaken when I remembered to - he said the flavor seemed only a bit stronger (in a good way), no loss whatsoever and he still really liked it.

 

[Exchaner]

Thanks Huck for posting the results. I'm glad it worked out.

 

[Exchaner]

My Turkish+Vanilla is getting better and better with age. It's been a month. Patience is a virtue..... 4% Turkish, 2% Vanilla. A little Caramel might do wonders.

 

[JeremyR]

I've found that the more hs flavoring I use the longer it has to steep. Using too much flavoring can mute some of the flavor notes. The difference between 3% & 9% can be a completely different flavor profile as well; certain notes are more in your face and you can lose some of the subtle notes. I mix most mine in the 2.5-5% range on an rba. It takes at least 3-5 days to gauge Flavor strength then it will mature with time. Some take 2-3 weeks to peak but mine rarely make it that long before I start vaping them after 3-5 days. I personally don't use any additives in my hangsens.
Take it for what its worth.

 

[Exchaner]

I will try Turkish at a % lower than 4, and see what happens. It probably will let the vanilla come through more.

 

[dannyv45]

I mix turkish at 7% and add 4% rustica TA and .5% EM. The rustica TA will add more of an exotic sweeter tobacco kick to the mix. The ACV will mute flavor over time and to much EM will also mute flavor. This flavor needs a good 3 week steep. Heating the mix in a crock pot at 150F for 3 - 4 hours will take care of steeping so you don't have to wait 3 - 4 weeks. Steeping uncapped is not needed. Half way through the steep process crack open the cap to let the built up gas escape recap and continue steeping. If your using a high VG content (Over 65%) you will need to add Distilled water. Add starting at 4%DW for 65%VG and increase 1%DW for every 10% more VG so 75%VG would be 5%DW 85%VG would be 6%DW. If after a full day of vaping this mix, your throat is kinda raw then substitute the DW for saline this will give a bit more relief to throat irratation then plain DW. It's true that a higher PG content will deliver better throat hit but if steeped properly the flavor will be consistant regardless of more PG or more VG.

If your interested in rustica TA you can get it here:

http://www.wingedseed.com/15322/TOBACCO+ABSOLUTE.html

To create a concentrate mix .5ml TA to 10ml PG, or 5ml pg/5ml PGA and use that at 4% in the mix.

The TA is a thick waxie paste substance and needs to be heated to thin it in order to make your concentrate.