UFS, Finally, But not working

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OK,

So after almost a month I finally got my UFS. I can't get it to set up properly. Here are the problems I am having.

There is so much plastic in the threads where the Plastic window was sitting. I can't get it out and it makes for a tough time screwing and unscrewing stuff.

None of the configurations are working with my Joye 510 atomizer. Everything comes up too Tall or Too Short.

The O-ring in the Mouthpiece section appears to be too small and just falls right through.

No Drip tips fit snugly in the hole (are they supposed to actually sit in the atomizer) All I can get them to do is just fall right through.?
 

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Hey buddy!!!

#1 problem -- the atty has to come up above the oring or have an extender on it to reach. I would recommend using an adapter to extend it out (or use something like Para developed) for an extension so you can mount the drip tip on top.

#2 problem -- Whoa hey, that window could be stripped, if so, you should be able to get another free............
 

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Hey buddy!!!

#1 problem -- the atty has to come up above the oring or have an extender on it to reach. I would recommend using an adapter to extend it out (or use something like Para developed) for an extension so you can mount the drip tip on top.

#2 problem -- Whoa hey, that window could be stripped, if so, you should be able to get another free............

Woah, the atty has to come through the Oring and above it? I'm not sure why this Joye 510 wont fit though. I have tried it in every possible configuration methinks...
 

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If you think of the tanks as 4 pieces, the bottom being piece 1, window 2 -- take out number 3, its the short version of the tank, that should work. The problem is is that the UFSV2 was not issued the extender and mouthpiece, they make it easy-peasy for 510s. :)

Yeah this is where I had the trouble. I tried the SS window with piece one, and for starters, the top piece wouldn't even cover the O-ring on the SS window, but I put her together anyways, the drip tip seemed wonky as the little part didn't screw down all the way either (it hit the O-ring and Stopped). THe whole ensemble started to work great, but as I fiddled with the juice flow and air draw, the whole thing dismounted from the Pin assembly part and juice was everywhere. I thought that you could only screw the juice flow control up so far and it would catch the atty, but it took it right off. It is so hard to screw, I have used vaseline generously and no dice :(.

I hope this just takes some time to get used to, I really don't want to have to resort to the classies.
 

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Oh, amn, I have posted my methods a few times, its all rote now but the important aspects......

1. juice contol fully open, then close 1/8 turn, then tighten atty down well.
2. Fully close juice and air control when filling
3. Vape what got in the CT first before opening juice control 1/2 turn -- this turn varies tbh with the attys I'm using...
 

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Seaweed, the whole unit coming off means that the atty is getting unscrewed. Sounds like something is not seating correctly. I would suggest pulling up the wiki here (Guide to UFS - E-Cigarette Wiki).

I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but I really think it would help to go back the beginning and make sure you did not miss anything. The atty being installed properly is vital.
 

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The atty coming out is one of three things.

1. Atty wasn't in tight enough (could happen if you put the atty in while juice was in closed position, or you had the battery in when putting the atty in).

2. Top cap (the smallest piece) is too tight. Should tighten down to get the o-ring in the right place, then loosen it a little.

3. O-ring at the very top (one that goes around the atty) not lubed.

Oh, I almost forget... a trick if it starts to come loose during normal use. If you close the juice and can see any part of the o-ring on the bottom of the juice tank put it down on the table standing up.

Close off air.

Carefully, but fairly quickly, take off the top two pieces (and dt), like you were going to refill it.

Quickly open the juice all the way, rescrew the atty, close juice again (shouldn't see o-ring at the bottom anymore.

Put all back together.

There should be minimal juice leakage if you do it all quickly. You might need to blow out lost juice if too much leaked. As soon as you can (when you get home, or after the tank is empty) completely disassemble and clean.

I've used that a couple times when I'm out and have no way to really empty the tank or clean and re-lube everything. Normally allows me to save it all before a complete loss.
 
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It will also unscrew the Atty if the top cap is screwed down to tight also making it hard to adjust juice control loosen the top cap a bit and things should move much smoother.... the top cap being the smallest piece at the top that the Atty goes through.....

This worked perfectly!

While I am a bit disappointed that I can't use the tank to its full capacity, and can't use my ming tips, I am happy to report that I've got it working in mini-mode with my Joye 510 and it vapes like a champ! I've got new juice and a big smile on my face. It makes me disappointed that I got frustrated so quickly when I know there is always a slight learning curve with GG products. My faith has been restored and exalted! Thanks GG, you're better than .....
 

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This worked perfectly!

While I am a bit disappointed that I can't use the tank to its full capacity, and can't use my ming tips, I am happy to report that I've got it working in mini-mode with my Joye 510 and it vapes like a champ! I've got new juice and a big smile on my face. It makes me disappointed that I got frustrated so quickly when I know there is always a slight learning curve with GG products. My faith has been restored and exalted! Thanks GG, you're better than .....

Glad you got it working! I think an atty extender will hit the re-sellers soon, which will allow you to use it to your full capacity AND use your favorite ming drip tip. Win-win, Huh?
 

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I really like the DC cartos in mine, they're long enough that you can not only use regular mode but if you get an extra extension you can add 3ml of more space to it. If used in regular mode you can fix the loose atty problem without opening the UFS as there's enough sticking out to easily grab the carto.
 

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I also just received 2 ufs today! The first one I screwed by pulling the pin and the tiny tiny orings out of the unit. That's a job for later tonight lol..

I've also had issues with what I assume is my carto being unscrewed. A couple times now I've gone to close juice control, and it just keeps threading past where it should stop when closed fully. Everything seems tight and looks good, and it only happens randomly, but I'd appreciate any tips. So is it the tight top cap gripping the carto that's turning it while I adjust liquid control?

Aside from this and the pin issue, I've found the ufs very easy to assemble and operate! I actually expected more of a learning process, but I have one going on my stealth right now working beautifully! Cool product, thanks a bunch!
 

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I also just received 2 ufs today! The first one I screwed by pulling the pin and the tiny tiny orings out of the unit. That's a job for later tonight lol..

I've also had issues with what I assume is my carto being unscrewed. A couple times now I've gone to close juice control, and it just keeps threading past where it should stop when closed fully. Everything seems tight and looks good, and it only happens randomly, but I'd appreciate any tips. So is it the tight top cap gripping the carto that's turning it while I adjust liquid control?

Aside from this and the pin issue, I've found the ufs very easy to assemble and operate! I actually expected more of a learning process, but I have one going on my stealth right now working beautifully! Cool product, thanks a bunch!

If you haven't already done so, watch the youtube vid on replacing the 2mm x 1mm o-rings. If you don't do it correctly you'll tear them.......
 

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I've also had issues with what I assume is my carto being unscrewed. A couple times now I've gone to close juice control, and it just keeps threading past where it should stop when closed fully. Everything seems tight and looks good, and it only happens randomly, but I'd appreciate any tips. So is it the tight top cap gripping the carto that's turning it while I adjust liquid control?

Before twisting the juice control, loosen the top collar a little -- the smaller inner ring at the very top of your UFS2, the ring through which you stick your drip tip. When the top collar is screwed down tight, it puts pressure on the O-ring underneath at the top of your carto, making that O-ring expand and hug your carto. This is a good thing as long as you're not adjusting the UFS2, since it makes a seal to keep juice from leaking out the top. But while adjusting juice flow, you want your UFS2 to be able to twist freely around your carto or atty without gripping it at the top. If you leave tension on that top seal, your carto or atty will unscrew with every twist of your juice tank. Does that make sense?
 

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Before twisting the juice control, loosen the top collar a little -- the smaller inner ring at the very top of your UFS2, the ring through which you stick your drip tip. When the top collar is screwed down tight, it puts pressure on the O-ring underneath at the top of your carto, making that O-ring expand and hug your carto. This is a good thing as long as you're not adjusting the UFS2, since it makes a seal to keep juice from leaking out the top. But while adjusting juice flow, you want your UFS2 to be able to twist freely around your carto or atty without gripping it at the top. If you leave tension on that top seal, your carto or atty will unscrew with every twist of your juice tank. Does that make sense?

This makes perfect sense for the issue that Chinner was having last night. Hey Chinner! The Stealth/UFS combo looked sweet.. may have to consider one myself. *Facepalm*
 

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Thanks for the help guys! I believe the tight top cap is my issue. Aside from that, this thing has been working really well!

As for those ridiculously small orings on the pin, I was as to resist forcing it back in and ruining them before reading, and hopefully it will be a simple process to get them back in lol..

Thanks again
 

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Just a quick note about the top cap gripping your atty or carto. The procedure that will keep you from having to fiddle with it every time is as follows.
1. Tighten it down to seat the o ring.
2. loosen the top piece again
3. very light lightly tighten it again just to the point that won't move freely.

If you use this procedure after filling, you should have no issues with leaking or unscrewing the atty while adjusting your juice flow.
 

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Just a quick note about the top cap gripping your atty or carto. The procedure that will keep you from having to fiddle with it every time is as follows.
1. Tighten it down to seat the o ring.
2. loosen the top piece again
3. very light lightly tighten it again just to the point that won't move freely.

If you use this procedure after filling, you should have no issues with leaking or unscrewing the atty while adjusting your juice flow.

This definitely makes a huge difference. However, I still find it tough to adjust the juice flow at all. Does this get better with time? She's lubed up like my aunt Mabel but it still takes a lot of care and force to get it to move.
 
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