UFS questions. (I'm NOOBILICIOUS!)

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MAlzado

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I'm about 6 hours into my first UFS now & I have some questions.

As the juice level in the UFS goes down over a few hours, are (juice/air flow) adjustments necessary to maintain the same vape quality? Is this a case of 'The fuller it is, the more juice restricted I should make it'?
I've definitely learned I must have maximum juice restriction on a fresh tank. (yes, the hard way. :laugh: Can I haz juice spitting smiley pleeze??) Then, while vaping, I make tiny (less restrictive) flow adjustments as the juice level goes down. This is common, right... or no?

But once the level is about half way down, I'm all the way UN restricted and I begin to get a lil burnt taste. I can't find any adjustment that works below a half tank. I have to refill. Any thought on how to continue vaping with less than a half tank left?

Also, How high do you fill the UFS? Why is the catch cup so large? (Or necessary at all?)

Thanks all. I'm grateful for your help.
 

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If you pull off the tip you can drip into the attie. I have had to do that when I get the burn taste. I am still using my first attie. I think you can over think the UFS. It is like when you first start driving you over think everything. Then you start just doing it without much thought and it all goes better. It will just come natural.
 

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Hi MAlzado, congrats on UFS, I'm no expert by any means, but for what it's worth I've found that I tend to set my air control to the desired pull I like to suck with and then leave it, unless I've flooded slightly then I'll open up to vape the excess after closing the juice! the juice flow can be hit and miss to a degree and quite a fine adjustment to find depending on variables as atty/juice/voltage! I've got in to the habit, be it a bad one? of I tend to close the juice after a few puffs and then come back to it and set it back to about where it was judging it by thumb alignment and then twisting! (another tip from off here I think) I've had great vapes at 6v but my 3.2 ohm uk atty's only tend to last 1 to 1 and a 1/2 days for some reason and I've gone back to LV.
If your at Max juice flow and getting burnt/dry hits still, then try undoing the UFS cap a few turns and then tightening back, you should see some bubbles rise in the UFS window and your atty should be re-primed so to speak? IMEO mentioned or done this and monkey see monkey do! sometimes I do this rather than altering the juice flow anymore? perhaps another bad habit lol.
You should be able to fill the UFS to the brim, and the catch cup? I'm not 100% on what your refering to re that?
Hope you've found some of this helpful.
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MAlzado

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Thank you all.
Stormynite, You're prolly right. I do over think. I've read at least 10 hours of GG threads in the last week. I'm aware of the month long learning curve experienced by many. I just wanna flatten out that curve a bit.
Scope, I will try that cap loosening thing. Re the catch cup... It looks like it is big enough to hold 3 ml. But it only would take a few drops to flood an atty. That's why I'm wondering why it's so big.

Anyway, back to it. Thanks again.
 

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Thank you all.
Stormynite, You're prolly right. I do over think. I've read at least 10 hours of GG threads in the last week. I'm aware of the month long learning curve experienced by many. I just wanna flatten out that curve a bit.
Scope, I will try that cap loosening thing. Re the catch cup... It looks like it is big enough to hold 3 ml. But it only would take a few drops to flood an atty. That's why I'm wondering why it's so big.

Anyway, back to it. Thanks again.

Hi.Mal thats a lot of reading you've done, a lot of use experienced user look at some of these posts and think uhh, but then again when you've used the previous tanks and models it does come a little easier i get the same probs as scope (nice to see you hear Buddy your Atty arrive yet? ) but im looking into getting atomizers from a different source as we both seem to have got ours from the same vendor another thing i found to work is a quick blow followed by a suck (i know that sounds so wrong:blink:)
as this seems to get a little air inside the UFS and help flow.
If your going to loosen the cap make sure you keep some Vaseline on the top o-ring as it can catch the atomizer and unscrew it (then you'll see why you need the big collection chamber;) )
 

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I have found that it is all about the air flow. I use 100% VG juice and at first I was having the same issue. Try running it with the air control closed a little more. Also, don't have the mouthpiece and top cap tightened down too hard. I have also found that a quick hard drag without hitting the button will help re-wet the atty.
 

MAlzado

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It seems like no matter what I do, and no matter what combination of adjustments, I can not vape my UFS below a half tank.
This even includes with removing the entire top cap!
It's fantastic for the first half tank. But below that, nothing.

Maybe this isn't important but I'm also getting some leakage. Maybe 4 drops after 4 hours laying on its side. Not 100 percent sure where its coming from.
 

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That is odd, I get my best performance in the bottom half of the tank. The only other thing I can think of is that something is not seated properly or maybe it is the brand of atty.

What brand of atty are you using and what resitance? Type of juice, aka what pg/vg ratio?
Here is what I would recommend to start off with. Drain the UFS. Take it off the GGTS. Disassemble the UFS, even verify that the tiny o rings on the bositive post are in the correct position. Lube all threads and o rings as you re assemble. Use the gg Wiki. Make sure the air control ring is put on with the internal o ring is closest to the bottom of the CT (very important for proper air control). Screw the bottom section of tank past where the atty connector is flush. Tighten the atty very securely before screwing the base of the tank tight against the bottom of the atty. Re install the window and upper tank section. make sure the air control ring is completely closed. Fill tank to the top of the window. Re install the top section, but not too tight. leave it just snug. re install o ring and then mouth piece by snugging the mouth piece down, then back it off and then just tighten it back down just enough so that it is not loose. Re install the UFS on the GGTS and tighten down so that it fires. Open the air control ring and quarter turn and the liquid an eighth of a turn. Do the sharp inhales till you hear just the faintest of gurgles. Try vaping from there.

Hope this helps.
 

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I have found that it is all about the air flow. I use 100% VG juice and at first I was having the same issue. Try running it with the air control closed a little more. Also, don't have the mouthpiece and top cap tightened down too hard. I have also found that a quick hard drag without hitting the button will help re-wet the atty.

inquisitorj is right, it is all about air flow. By restricting the air flow, that helps pull juice into the atty. For HV vaping I only open the air flow 1/8 to 1/4 of a turn. When you do this, you don't need to open the juice flow as much and will not have the flooding when you set the PV down for a few minutes.
 
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