This comes from a UK Precise 16340 owner who sent me a review of his Precise 16340. Original review can be found here: Super T Manufacturing Precise 16340 - UK Vapers
The P16
Ogling this for weeks, like some sort of pervert I was mesmerised by Super T porn. I agonised over every detail in every review I could find, spoke to Prof, agonised some more..
Ok, so you don’t exactly need a mortgage for one of these, but $140 + $28 shipping and a possible £20ish robbery from customs which would lead to an inevitable subsequent £8 “handling charge” sting by Royal Mail and it’s still reasonable wedge for what is realistically just another e-cig battery holder that I may really, really want but in no way need. I actually got away with the customs charges in the end so it all worked out cheaper than I’d allowed for, which is never a bad thing.
I spoke to David at Super T a couple of times and eventually pressed the little Paypal button on the evening of the second of October, the niggling skinflint in me could hardly believe I was doing it at the time. I pressed down slowly, as if I was about to change my mind but inevitably there it was, the little telltale click felt directly under my index finger that told me I had once more succumbed to my near irresistible attraction to expensive shiny stuff I don’t need and I was soon to become the owner of a new stainless steel P16.
I can’t say the waiting was hell exactly, but it ground by very slowly. Just over six weeks later on the morning of the sixteenth of November I had a knock on the door, there was a melancholic looking bloke from Parcelforce standing there soaked to the skin with a USPS package stuffed into his armpit and rain dripping off his nose asking me in world weary monotone for an autograph. Weirdly, even faced with this perfect example of abject human misery I felt like a kid meeting Santa!
I seized the parcel and shut the door with a big stupid grin appearing on my face, frenziedly tried ripping open the unrippable Tyvek envelope before hopping over the bratgate into the kitchen and grabbing our fiendishly sharp cooks knife. Once through the envelope I was faced with a USPS priority box that was dispatched with ease and out dropped a folded paper ‘manual’ that I still haven’t read, and a ball of bubblewrap with a Ziploc baggie taped to the outside. The baggie contained a few small washers, a largish O ring and a 510-901 adapter. I eviscerated the bubblewrap ball to be greeted by a black velvet drawstring pouch containing a satisfyingly weighty, yet pleasantly diminutive lump of stainless Super T goodness... It was finally here and I was like an over-excited child on Christmas morning!
At first I spent a while just looking at it, and playing with it, taking it apart, putting it back together, disassembling it again and looking at all the component parts. Just admiring it really, this thing is a really nice example of fine design and engineering, very well made indeed.
All the threads on the device are perfectly cut, the cap and switch guard glide on and off perfectly as do attys/cartos. No snagging, no fear of cross threading, no drag just a positive bite and silky smooth glide on and off.
The tolerances are very small indeed; button clearance (according to David) is just two thousandths of an inch. When you drop a battery into the device it slides in perfectly, but if you wrap a single layer of tape around the battery first, even applying force it won’t enter the tube. I am not mad, there was a reason for trying this.
You can only just see the joins when the caps are on, it’s more visible on the switch guard but on the top cap in some lights it’s all but impossible.
The atomiser connection is sunken a couple of millimetres so you don’t see the bottom of the carto/atty when in place, less visible joins and edges that way which gives a nice clean look to it.
The body is very nicely done; it’s slightly thinner in the middle but only very slightly. You can certainly feel the dips where the middle 40ish% of the total length is slightly recessed and can see them almost like a shadow on the surface of the metal when looking square on but can hardly make them out looking at the profile.
The finish is flawless; it’s a silky, shiny satin finish I have done everything short of taking a microscope to this thing and found nothing. People do say that David is a perfectionist and my P16 bears witness to that, I have checked every component and they are all perfect, even the internal ‘invisible’ parts like the inside of the switch and top cap are properly finished.
I had mine vented which David does free of charge on request, I did this not because I am scared of the batteries going nuclear but simply for aesthetic reasons. It was one of the design features I really liked in the pics Prof took of his S6 and wanted this feature on my P16. My pics probably won’t do this justice but there are three x 3mm diameter vents drilled in sloping downwards at a 30 degree angle, the vents themselves stop exactly at the recess line I mentioned above but the downward channels left by the angled drilling just cut through it – a small detail but very nice. Even though it wasn’t originally designed to have them I am really glad I had this done as I think it adds something to the look of the device although this is obviously just a matter of personal taste.
The button/switch is fantastic; it’s absolutely solid in the housing due to the minute tolerances as well as adjustable. It requires almost no effort to operate the switch, balance it on your little finger and give it the lightest push downward on the shoulder and glides in smoothly to make contact with the battery. It fires perfectly, first time every single time without fail. The button push/throw is adjustable via adding or removing the little metal washers supplied to/from the screw on the back of the switch, the more washers in place the less distance the button will have to travel before making contact with the battery.
The battery tube itself appears to machined out of a solid rod of stainless steel rather than being made from commercial stainless pipe, there is a small internal ‘ledge’ about a third of the way up from the bottom which stops the battery falling out if you unscrew the switch housing, the battery can only be replaced from the top and this ledge also stops the spring and switch mechanism falling out through the unit as you do.
On top of this ledge on the battery side are two O rings for the battery to sit on and as mentioned above, you get a spare in your package. It has two already in place as battery lengths vary, if you have a longer battery you can remove one of the rings, it’s fine as it is for protected Trustfires though.
The P16 is advertised as taking protected 16340s only but I am pretty sure if you used the spare O ring in addition to the two in place already and a couple more of the spare metal washers on the switch it would take unprotected without a problem.
I don’t know if this is just in my head as I’ve always thought it’s the battery and atomiser that does the work with the device itself just being a battery case and switch but my E2 cartos seem even more powerful on this. I’m not much of an electrics man but I think it might be the noaloxed threads, steel body and solid internal brass contacts that might be creating a better circuit than on the aluminium devices I am used to. I am pretty sure the cartos are packing more punch using this but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that I am imagining it I suppose, I am sure someone will set me straight though..
There is an option to have it all made in stainless or you can have a brass top cap, button and switch guard, you can also configure these however you wish. If you wanted a stainless unit with a brass button for example, you can. Or a stainless unit with a brass switch guard and stainless button...You get the idea, David is very flexible and will, within reason, accommodate your requirements. You can also purchase the top cap and button guard separately, this way you can have it all and go with whatever whim takes you at the time.
Life’s too short for endless polishing, so not being a big fan of brass I went with the all stainless, which also carries a nice little lifetime guarantee. If I’m still alive then I’m pretty sure I’ll still be vaping on this in another 40 years time, it’s solidly built from a very hardwearing material, purely mechanical and apart from the spring which just drops in place I cannot see anything wearing out on this at all, ever. Another thing that will boost its longevity as a daily use device is its design, it’s a great looking unit that’s interesting and will probably attract some attention but it’s not overdone. It will look equally at home in the hands of an Armani suit wearing corporate executive or a denim and leather clad biker, which is no mean feat really. It will look good in your hands no matter how your image or lifestyle may change over the years.
I have done a size comparison with my SDMkII in the pics but it’s 74mm long and 18mm in diameter. That’s the same length as the main SD2 body without its button and the same diameter as an SD2 battery. It’s heavier than the SD, though not by as much as I’d thought given the fact that the SD is Aluminium and the P16 is Stainless Steel, comparison below.
Naked weight:
SD2: 41g
P16: 66g
Working weight with battery and E2 carto:
SD2: 68g
P16: 89g
One is aluminium and one stainless steel but in use there’s only just over half a normal sized bag of crisps in it weight-wise, between the two. It’s a pleasant, reassuringly solid kind of weight, not like lugging a brick around in your pocket.
PS: I’ve had this almost a week now and have had a chance to calm down from the initial excitement of getting a new toy and look at this device objectively. I do really like it but weighing it up in the cold light of day, is it really worth the six week wait and the price tag?
LOL, oh yeah! This device is stunning quality at what is on balance, a very fair price. I just cannot find any negative points of note in this device and have come to fully understand why Super T has so many fans. There was no bonding period with this device, it was a Gollum moment. I became (probably unhealthily) attached to the P16 immediately and it became my main device as soon as I put a battery in it.
Money well spent.
Unfortunately I have all the natural photography skills of a moose and only a crappy phone to use at the moment so my efforts won’t be able to do the P16 justice but I’ve taken some anyway. There are plenty of better pics around if anyone’s that interested..
The P16
Ogling this for weeks, like some sort of pervert I was mesmerised by Super T porn. I agonised over every detail in every review I could find, spoke to Prof, agonised some more..
Ok, so you don’t exactly need a mortgage for one of these, but $140 + $28 shipping and a possible £20ish robbery from customs which would lead to an inevitable subsequent £8 “handling charge” sting by Royal Mail and it’s still reasonable wedge for what is realistically just another e-cig battery holder that I may really, really want but in no way need. I actually got away with the customs charges in the end so it all worked out cheaper than I’d allowed for, which is never a bad thing.
I spoke to David at Super T a couple of times and eventually pressed the little Paypal button on the evening of the second of October, the niggling skinflint in me could hardly believe I was doing it at the time. I pressed down slowly, as if I was about to change my mind but inevitably there it was, the little telltale click felt directly under my index finger that told me I had once more succumbed to my near irresistible attraction to expensive shiny stuff I don’t need and I was soon to become the owner of a new stainless steel P16.
I can’t say the waiting was hell exactly, but it ground by very slowly. Just over six weeks later on the morning of the sixteenth of November I had a knock on the door, there was a melancholic looking bloke from Parcelforce standing there soaked to the skin with a USPS package stuffed into his armpit and rain dripping off his nose asking me in world weary monotone for an autograph. Weirdly, even faced with this perfect example of abject human misery I felt like a kid meeting Santa!
I seized the parcel and shut the door with a big stupid grin appearing on my face, frenziedly tried ripping open the unrippable Tyvek envelope before hopping over the bratgate into the kitchen and grabbing our fiendishly sharp cooks knife. Once through the envelope I was faced with a USPS priority box that was dispatched with ease and out dropped a folded paper ‘manual’ that I still haven’t read, and a ball of bubblewrap with a Ziploc baggie taped to the outside. The baggie contained a few small washers, a largish O ring and a 510-901 adapter. I eviscerated the bubblewrap ball to be greeted by a black velvet drawstring pouch containing a satisfyingly weighty, yet pleasantly diminutive lump of stainless Super T goodness... It was finally here and I was like an over-excited child on Christmas morning!
At first I spent a while just looking at it, and playing with it, taking it apart, putting it back together, disassembling it again and looking at all the component parts. Just admiring it really, this thing is a really nice example of fine design and engineering, very well made indeed.
All the threads on the device are perfectly cut, the cap and switch guard glide on and off perfectly as do attys/cartos. No snagging, no fear of cross threading, no drag just a positive bite and silky smooth glide on and off.
The tolerances are very small indeed; button clearance (according to David) is just two thousandths of an inch. When you drop a battery into the device it slides in perfectly, but if you wrap a single layer of tape around the battery first, even applying force it won’t enter the tube. I am not mad, there was a reason for trying this.
You can only just see the joins when the caps are on, it’s more visible on the switch guard but on the top cap in some lights it’s all but impossible.
The atomiser connection is sunken a couple of millimetres so you don’t see the bottom of the carto/atty when in place, less visible joins and edges that way which gives a nice clean look to it.
The body is very nicely done; it’s slightly thinner in the middle but only very slightly. You can certainly feel the dips where the middle 40ish% of the total length is slightly recessed and can see them almost like a shadow on the surface of the metal when looking square on but can hardly make them out looking at the profile.
The finish is flawless; it’s a silky, shiny satin finish I have done everything short of taking a microscope to this thing and found nothing. People do say that David is a perfectionist and my P16 bears witness to that, I have checked every component and they are all perfect, even the internal ‘invisible’ parts like the inside of the switch and top cap are properly finished.
I had mine vented which David does free of charge on request, I did this not because I am scared of the batteries going nuclear but simply for aesthetic reasons. It was one of the design features I really liked in the pics Prof took of his S6 and wanted this feature on my P16. My pics probably won’t do this justice but there are three x 3mm diameter vents drilled in sloping downwards at a 30 degree angle, the vents themselves stop exactly at the recess line I mentioned above but the downward channels left by the angled drilling just cut through it – a small detail but very nice. Even though it wasn’t originally designed to have them I am really glad I had this done as I think it adds something to the look of the device although this is obviously just a matter of personal taste.
The button/switch is fantastic; it’s absolutely solid in the housing due to the minute tolerances as well as adjustable. It requires almost no effort to operate the switch, balance it on your little finger and give it the lightest push downward on the shoulder and glides in smoothly to make contact with the battery. It fires perfectly, first time every single time without fail. The button push/throw is adjustable via adding or removing the little metal washers supplied to/from the screw on the back of the switch, the more washers in place the less distance the button will have to travel before making contact with the battery.
The battery tube itself appears to machined out of a solid rod of stainless steel rather than being made from commercial stainless pipe, there is a small internal ‘ledge’ about a third of the way up from the bottom which stops the battery falling out if you unscrew the switch housing, the battery can only be replaced from the top and this ledge also stops the spring and switch mechanism falling out through the unit as you do.
On top of this ledge on the battery side are two O rings for the battery to sit on and as mentioned above, you get a spare in your package. It has two already in place as battery lengths vary, if you have a longer battery you can remove one of the rings, it’s fine as it is for protected Trustfires though.
The P16 is advertised as taking protected 16340s only but I am pretty sure if you used the spare O ring in addition to the two in place already and a couple more of the spare metal washers on the switch it would take unprotected without a problem.
I don’t know if this is just in my head as I’ve always thought it’s the battery and atomiser that does the work with the device itself just being a battery case and switch but my E2 cartos seem even more powerful on this. I’m not much of an electrics man but I think it might be the noaloxed threads, steel body and solid internal brass contacts that might be creating a better circuit than on the aluminium devices I am used to. I am pretty sure the cartos are packing more punch using this but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that I am imagining it I suppose, I am sure someone will set me straight though..
There is an option to have it all made in stainless or you can have a brass top cap, button and switch guard, you can also configure these however you wish. If you wanted a stainless unit with a brass button for example, you can. Or a stainless unit with a brass switch guard and stainless button...You get the idea, David is very flexible and will, within reason, accommodate your requirements. You can also purchase the top cap and button guard separately, this way you can have it all and go with whatever whim takes you at the time.
Life’s too short for endless polishing, so not being a big fan of brass I went with the all stainless, which also carries a nice little lifetime guarantee. If I’m still alive then I’m pretty sure I’ll still be vaping on this in another 40 years time, it’s solidly built from a very hardwearing material, purely mechanical and apart from the spring which just drops in place I cannot see anything wearing out on this at all, ever. Another thing that will boost its longevity as a daily use device is its design, it’s a great looking unit that’s interesting and will probably attract some attention but it’s not overdone. It will look equally at home in the hands of an Armani suit wearing corporate executive or a denim and leather clad biker, which is no mean feat really. It will look good in your hands no matter how your image or lifestyle may change over the years.
I have done a size comparison with my SDMkII in the pics but it’s 74mm long and 18mm in diameter. That’s the same length as the main SD2 body without its button and the same diameter as an SD2 battery. It’s heavier than the SD, though not by as much as I’d thought given the fact that the SD is Aluminium and the P16 is Stainless Steel, comparison below.
Naked weight:
SD2: 41g
P16: 66g
Working weight with battery and E2 carto:
SD2: 68g
P16: 89g
One is aluminium and one stainless steel but in use there’s only just over half a normal sized bag of crisps in it weight-wise, between the two. It’s a pleasant, reassuringly solid kind of weight, not like lugging a brick around in your pocket.
PS: I’ve had this almost a week now and have had a chance to calm down from the initial excitement of getting a new toy and look at this device objectively. I do really like it but weighing it up in the cold light of day, is it really worth the six week wait and the price tag?
LOL, oh yeah! This device is stunning quality at what is on balance, a very fair price. I just cannot find any negative points of note in this device and have come to fully understand why Super T has so many fans. There was no bonding period with this device, it was a Gollum moment. I became (probably unhealthily) attached to the P16 immediately and it became my main device as soon as I put a battery in it.
Money well spent.
Unfortunately I have all the natural photography skills of a moose and only a crappy phone to use at the moment so my efforts won’t be able to do the P16 justice but I’ve taken some anyway. There are plenty of better pics around if anyone’s that interested..
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