Unflavored Nic Pricing Comparison

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wolcen

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I use Wizard Labs and High desert. High desert sells RTS nic. Like everything else, I try to consolidate things if possible to distribute shipping charges across as many items as possible...

According to Randy (of RTS), High Desert no longer sells RTS nic even though "they imply that they do". Maybe their "US" nic is just the remainder of the RTS they purchased previously, I don't know.

They do carry Wizard Labs nic as well as the "mystery US" nic.
 

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Quality?
Search threads and posts for examples of 'Quality'.
Are they based on color, smell, taste?
Are those REALLY the parameters of QUALITY?
Is that what vendors do to control, monitor Nicotine Quality?
How many reviewers are actually qualified to comment on Nicotine Quality?
I'm not.
You may LIKE the color, smell, taste of one brand or batch over another, but please stop referring to those criteria as a measure of QUALITY. There may be an IMPLICATION of QUALITY from color, smell, taste, but I hope that Nic suppliers do more than hire Quality Engineers and Inspectors to 'Sniff' their Nic :)

Just like one vintage of a good wine is often regarded as better than another vintage, I'm sure one 'Batch' of Nicotine tastes or smells better than another 'Batch' of Nicotine, even from the same vineyard :)
 
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wolcen

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Quality?
Search threads and posts for examples of 'Quality'.
Are they based on color, smell, taste?
Are those REALLY the parameters of QUALITY?
Is that what vendors do to control, monitor Nicotine Quality?
How many reviewers are actually qualified to comment on Nicotine Quality?
I'm not.
You may LIKE the color, smell, taste of one brand or batch over another, but please stop referring to those criteria as a measure of QUALITY. There may be an IMPLICATION of QUALITY from color, smell, taste, but I hope that Nic suppliers do more than hire Quality Engineers and Inspectors to 'Sniff' their Nic :)

Just like one vintage of a good wine is often regarded as better than another vintage, I'm sure one 'Batch' of Nicotine is better than another 'Batch' of Nicotine, even from the same vineyard :)

I completely get your wine vintage comparison, but here I think most of us regard quality as being roughly equivalent to purity in the simplest sense (and many take that to then mean 'safety', even though we're sucking on poison...sigh).

What would be your primary measure of purity then - assuming one exists? Or, what could a vendor do to make you trust their product is the purest possible? I know you've talked directly to vendors in the past to get your sense of their operations, but for the average joe, any ideas would they should look for without having to call up a vendor?
 

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I completely get your wine vintage comparison, but here I think most of us regard quality as being roughly equivalent to purity in the simplest sense (and many take that to then mean 'safety', even though we're sucking on poison...sigh).

What would be your primary measure of purity then - assuming one exists? Or, what could a vendor do to make you trust their product is the purest possible? I know you've talked directly to vendors in the past to get your sense of their operations, but for the average joe, any ideas would they should look for without having to call up a vendor?

No good answer. Without an on-site audit for process compliance from a disinterested, professional audit organization, you can only believe what you see on the internet (or your own senses of sight, taste, and smell). Quality Control is more than the input raw materials. It's Process Control from the raw materials to the delivered product. Batch after batch after batch. Handling, storage, mixing procedures, storage temperatures and environment, can change raw materials into something with less quality than the original incoming raw materials. Chemical purity of the final product would be one good criteria.

A review that describes the smell, taste, and color of a particular brand of Nicotine (hopefully from a GOOD batch :)) can be perfectly valid. Just stop implying that is a measure of quality. If you don't like the way it tastes, or smells (after mixing down) those are valid review criteria. If you include some real objective final product analysis data, that's Quality.

Short answer: Filter out HYPE. Look for roaches in your juice :)
 
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