Unflavoured eliquid

[chuxsta]

continuing from a previous post i made re DIY juices i thought best make a new thread to save going off topic.

I have been made aware and bookmarked the page re how to mix. have also had many replies from all of the helpful people on here with the maths behind mixing..

while browsing some UK based DIY liquid sites i found unflavoured VG and PG liquids.

would i be right in thinking i can buy these and just mix with flavours or would i still need something to dilute it as well?

the page if found only sells 27mg and 54mg mixes..
im also guessing im best off having the 27mg strength as im aiming for a lower overall end mg strength.
probably 12 maybe less..

i have just gone down a level in the pre made juices to 18mg from 24mg and its still making me dizzy in the kayfun 3.1

 

[bm2112]

Are you saying they sell VG/PG bases with Nicotine concentrate in them? Or the VG/PG and nicotine concentrate separately?

 

[chuxsta]

Are you saying they sell VG/PG bases with Nicotine concentrate in them? Or the VG/PG and nicotine concentrate separately?

hey..
yeah they are selling them ready mixed with out flavour.

 

[Tangaroav]

Not a bad idea, to sell it already nicotined to individual requirements , just adding flavor to taste.... It would be on less step to DIY.

 

[djsvapour]

I buy ready-mixed PG/VG/Nic at any strength. 6/12/18/24 etc.

If you need to dilute, you may as well buy separate PG/VG and base liquid.

If you vape 12mg, just buy 12mg....

UK Nicotine Base

 

[chuxsta]

I buy ready-mixed PG/VG/Nic at any strength. 6/12/18/24 etc.

If you need to dilute, you may as well buy separate PG/VG and base liquid.

If you vape 12mg, just buy 12mg....

UK Nicotine Base

so with the 12mg ready mixed stuff how much flavour do you add ? does it vary on flavour type?

 

[Kiwiboo]

continuing from a previous post i made re DIY juices i thought best make a new thread to save going off topic.

I have been made aware and bookmarked the page re how to mix. have also had many replies from all of the helpful people on here with the maths behind mixing..

while browsing some UK based DIY liquid sites i found unflavoured VG and PG liquids.

would i be right in thinking i can buy these and just mix with flavours or would i still need something to dilute it as well?

the page if found only sells 27mg and 54mg mixes..
im also guessing im best off having the 27mg strength as im aiming for a lower overall end mg strength.
probably 12 maybe less..

i have just gone down a level in the pre made juices to 18mg from 24mg and its still making me dizzy in the kayfun 3.1

I have premixed unflavoured 18mg nic in two bases: 50/50 and 70/30. I also have no nic 50/50 & 70/30, and 100%VG.

I also buy 18mg Vanilla e liquid in bulk which is the base for most of my DIY nowadays.

i use the unflavoured ones to make hubbys menthol mixes...he vapes around 12%, and for steeping teas. I use the vanilla for my eliquid bases, which are usually around 6%. It is just easier, for me, to use this way.

As you go along you will find the right way for yourself. (And sometimes, I do vape 12% unflavoured, usually 100VG, when I feel a craving for nic, but that has been a while).

Good luck,
Blessings
Nancy

 

[Susan~S]

so with the 12mg ready mixed stuff how much flavour do you add ? does it vary on flavour type?

It depends on flavor and on the flavoring company you are getting your flavoring from. Flavour Arts and Inawera require less flavoring that TPA or Flavor West. Head on over to the DIY forum and begin by reading all the "stickys".

 

[djsvapour]

so with the 12mg ready mixed stuff how much flavour do you add ? does it vary on flavour type?

It varies on flavour type and brand. There are some terrible flavour brands that require up to 25% to taste decent. These are a bad buy.

Inawera (as an example) make crazy suggestions about using 2-3% or something. That's just silly. Nobody who sells Inawera shop-made will mix a 2-3%. You might get away with a tobacco at 4-5% but most others are higher (10% or so) and certain flavours require more.

I made RY4 Nutzilla (Flavour art) at 7%, then 10%, now 12%. It takes at least 10% to taste.
Tino d'Milano (Inawera) RY4 tastes of nothing at even 10%.
Decadent Vapours Lime Zinger is a lovely taste, but that's dull as 99p e-liquid at 10% - that needs nearer 20%.

You can usually google the name of the concentrate and get a forum "mixing" thread about it.

and then you have to factor in steeping too.

 

[chuxsta]

It varies on flavour type and brand. There are some terrible flavour brands that require up to 25% to taste decent. These are a bad buy.

Inawera (as an example) make crazy suggestions about using 2-3% or something. That's just silly. Nobody who sells Inawera shop-made will mix a 2-3%. You might get away with a tobacco at 4-5% but most others are higher (10% or so) and certain flavours require more.

I made RY4 Nutzilla (Flavour art) at 7%, then 10%, now 12%. It takes at least 10% to taste.
Tino d'Milano (Inawera) RY4 tastes of nothing at even 10%.
Decadent Vapours Lime Zinger is a lovely taste, but that's dull as 99p e-liquid at 10% - that needs nearer 20%.

You can usually google the name of the concentrate and get a forum "mixing" thread about it.

and then you have to factor in steeping too.

just dealt with the additional information overload ( again )
ask one question have to run off and google understand it and come back

is steeping purely for the flavour to set into the mixture?

 

[chuxsta]

well i have taken the plunge...
some pre mix and flavours ordered. will let you know how i get on...

 

[cope]

get the e-juice me up program it will help .. i get the highest unflavored nic i can and cut it way down you can get it up to 100mg thats toxic so caution should be taken

 

[djsvapour]

well i have taken the plunge...
some pre mix and flavours ordered. will let you know how i get on...

Great! When I get back from my break, I'll be sure to ask how it's going.

 

[tj99959]

Here's the funny part; unflavored e-liquid isn't unflavored. Nicotine has a flavor, PG has a flavor, and VG also has a flavor. You will find many around here that have found that unflavored is the best flavor. It just happens to be what I'm vaping ATM. 50/50 mix of PG/VG @ 10mg nic. The side benefit is it doesn't clog wicks & coils up nearly as fast.

 

[Mrdaputer]

Maybe I am the only one here who changes things up. I don't always use the same pg vg ratio also I use different nicotine levels depending if it is tobacco or a fruit or even a dessert. Also wouldn't opening and closing your mixture a lot cause the nicotine to turn darker?

 

[chuxsta]

Here's the funny part; unflavored e-liquid isn't unflavored. Nicotine has a flavor, PG has a flavor, and VG also has a flavor. You will find many around here that have found that unflavored is the best flavor. It just happens to be what I'm vaping ATM. 50/50 mix of PG/VG @ 10mg nic. The side benefit is it doesn't clog wicks & coils up nearly as fast.

i have ordered a 50/50 mix at 12mg will give it a try as it is first, thanks for that.

 

[chuxsta]

well my 50/50 12mg ready mixed solution and flavours turned up today. as well as some organic cotton and some 28 guage a1 kanthal.
have been using 32 guage and silica wick up till now.

like a kid a christmas i have been excited to try my new stuff out..
as soon as i got home from work set up my lab like a scene from breaking bad.

i got Diamond Crystal VPG 12mg
liquid and some various Inawera flavours..

i first made up bubblegum 5% flavour 95% premade.. the initial flavour was nice but there was a strange greasy kind of weird after taste.
i then made a 10% mango 90% premade, this wasnt as bad but there is still a strange after taste.. cant put my finger on it as i have never tasted anything like this nor have i made my own juice before.

i have just made up some other bottles with 5% flavours but will steep these for a day or two.

any other tips or info on the strange taste would be appreciated..
i know there is a BOAT load of guides and info on here and the rest of the web.. but i cant learn that way i have actually do it to learn..i have a mild form of dyslexia and my brain just doesnt soak up information in large amounts unless its done in a practical manner.

 

[chuxsta]

i think i have worked out the strange taste was too much flavour been added as i also did one with 5% and there is no after taste at all. but....the main flavour is lacking any punch at all..
would i be correct in thinking that steeping would resolve the lack of flavour..

oh and for the record it was blueberry.

 

[Panorama911]

Steeping may or may not help. Some will benefit from it others not even needed. This is one of those "hands on" moments for your learning curve. Go through a steeping process with it and see how it turns out. GL!

 

[NewJerseyNinja]

be careful, something worries me about handling large quantities of liquid nicotine