The opacity of the liquid... Someone who didn't know better might consider it's use in e-liquid safe because it is used in foodstuffs and other ingested items.
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The opacity of the liquid... Someone who didn't know better might consider it's use in e-liquid safe because it is used in foodstuffs and other ingested items.
Why not get in touch with the company direct and ask them what they use to color the e-liquid and validate the claim from there?
Looking at the juice, the clouded pink color is not typical of food coloring, it'd still be semi-translucent even with higher concentrations unless they mixed it with white (which is odd, but it is available and normally contains sugar). The only other way I know to get the pastel-like colors would be to use pigment coloring or use titanium dioxide.
You can read more about the uses of Titanium Dioxide at the link below (which links to actual use scenarios):
E171 Titanium Dioxide - International Speciality Chemicals Ltd
Looking at the juice, the clouded pink color is not typical of food coloring, it'd still be semi-translucent even with higher concentrations unless they mixed it with white (which is odd, but it is available and normally contains sugar). The only other way I know to get the pastel-like colors would be to use pigment coloring or use titanium dioxide.
You can read more about the uses of Titanium Dioxide at the link below (which links to actual use scenarios):
E171 Titanium Dioxide - International Speciality Chemicals Ltd
One thing I can say is when I changed out the cotton and burned off the excess juice my coil was white looking in color and seemed kind off rough to the touch, bumpy. I never had that issue with other juices.
I just looked at the old coil again, the white stuff comes off in a powdery form.
Well if it was the titanium oxide that caused that to happen to the coil, that's more proof that it wasn't vaporized and you didn't inhale it. The text of the link posted earlier says that it is the titanium oxide dust that gets lodged in the lungs that's the problem.
Dust is just a very fine particulate of the original compound. If you are vaporizing or aerosolizing a suspended particulate you are, in effect, turning it back into "dust".
I just recently heard that this flavor has condensed or evaporated milk in it. I do not know if it true. I looked for the source that I read it at but I cannot find it now. Again I have no clue if this is true but if so it would explain the odd coil residue.
If I had a contact I would be willing to reach out. A better idea might be to have it sent out to be run through a mass spec. Could be the the mfg., if indeed the are using TD, doesn't even know they are.
One of the biggest concerns is not just potential inhalation of the "dust" or particles, but also it's ability to react with aluminum, which is what a portion of Kanthal is made of (to be more specific: Kanthal FeCrAl alloys consist of mainly iron, chromium (20–30%) and aluminium (4–7.5 %)). While it's only a small amount, the statement "Violent or incandescent reactions occur with molten metals that are very electropositive, e.g. aluminium, calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, zinc and lithium." would be enough for me to stay away from it.
How would that effect vapor production? Seems like it might foul things up rather quickly.
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Yup, I saw that too but since we're not dealing with high enough temperatures (yet) to melt the Kanthal I back-burnered it. Not to be totally overlooked though...
Just out of curiosity I'm looking into public mass spectrometer availability. The School of Chemical Sciences at the U of Illinois has one available but you have to hand-deliver the sample(s). I have some contacts with access to one locally but it's used strictly for metallurgy and might not be good for this kind of testing.
True - but there's potential for reaction with a metal that is used in the creation of Kanthal, which would be enough to keep me form using it if it is indeed true that TD is being used in the mix to give it the color it has.
That said, there is a post on Instagrin (link below), which states that they are coming out with a version that is "more coil friendly" - it was posted on 2/18/2014, so yesterday. This could be in light of the concern, or it could not. Right now only the guy who makes it truly knows what's in it.
http://instagr.in/u/cuttwood (click on the first picture which shows Unicorn Milk clear).
Well, well, well...
Might be fun just testing everyday, run-of-the-mill, juices. (I'm trying to talk myself into getting one).
Desktop Spectrometry Kit | Public Lab Store
Smartphone Spectrometer Kit | Public Lab Store
Might be fun just testing everyday, run-of-the-mill, juices. (I'm trying to talk myself into getting one).
Desktop Spectrometry Kit | Public Lab Store
Smartphone Spectrometer Kit | Public Lab Store
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All the posts he has made in the 2 years that he has "been here" have been DO NOT GET THIS JUICE.
He has no proof.
If I tell you all ejuice has a bit of X (dangerous substance) in it will you quit vaping all together? Even if my friend told me that someone sent it in for testing?
He probably is just fear mongering.
Now if he can get the lab the "friend" of a "friend" sent the juice to provide a full case study and a full in depth analysis of the level in the juice per mL then I might believe it.
Also, only if "Lab X" is a reputable source of information.
Who knows, if it is true and he sent it to some ....ty lab - they may of had trace amounts of TD residue in the test tube they did the molecular testing on.
But until then - im calling BS and to tell him "kindly" .... and stop fear mongering people.
FWIW, I sampled this at a vape shop and liked the flavor a lot, but they didn't have it in stock yet so I couldn't buy it. The more I thought about it later the more I was glad that I didn't buy it. It truly bothered me that it's opaque, and without knowing how they got it to be opaque I'm not going to vape it.
I paint, so Titanium Dioxide is something I'm very familiar with and have no desire to inhale. I'm very curious to know what's in Unicorn Milk and in the meantime, I'll just keep vaping Mother's Milk which is also quite good (and transparent without artificial coloring either).
I paint, so Titanium Dioxide is something I'm very familiar with and have no desire to inhale. I'm very curious to know what's in Unicorn Milk and in the meantime, I'll just keep vaping Mother's Milk which is also quite good (and transparent without artificial coloring either).
Thanks for the input Vinh. I appreciate the tone in which you provided the info. Inhaling Titanium Dioxide does not seem to be safe at all, in fact, the few resources I've seen seem to indicate that it is indeed dangerous.
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