UNICORN MILK by Cuttwood

[ceejay]

one random person says this stuff has titanium dioxide. then another random person claims he had a phone conversation with Mr. Cuttwood himself and "confirms" it has titanium dioxide.

everyone just believes them. two people. do you know these people or just taking their words on blind faith? This reminds me of how hemp fiber was treated in William Randolph Hearst's newspapers calling it "............" and supporting his personal propaganda.

it's crazy to read the responses from you guys and see this swirl like Y2k or the end of the Mayan calendar 12/12/12

who remembers Andrew Wakefield, the Dr. who said vaccines give you autism? It was 100% fraud but now how many people are still scared to vaccinate their children.... even after this guy was found guilty.

"Hey guys, I personally had coffee with the creator of Cuttwood, Jim Bob (his name is not Jared, it's Jim Bob) and he said everyone is wrong and there is no titanium dioxide. You should all believe me cause I said so."

whether or not Unicorn Milk has titanium dioxide, the way everyone is acting based on accusations with no support, evidence, etc. is crazy. calling it poison and throwing it away before any evidence is provided.

if you like, sure, be safe and not vape until you know.

But please, until then, Keep Calm and vape On.



Ok, it's just coincidence the announcement to change the formula was announced yesterday? If there's no suspect chemicals, why change it? Why are stores accepting returns/exchanges if not all of this is true?

 

[JmanEspresso]

I see your point in comparing the effects of nicotine and Titanium Dioxide based on the MSDS disclosures, but does it not make a difference to you that nicotine is not a carcinogen and that Titanium Dioxide is possibly carcinogenic?

Until its PROVEN, that in the way its being used.. meaning the absolute MINUTE trace that could possibly be present.. is actually dangerous, no, it doesn't worry me. Furthermore, the amount of the Titanium Dioxide that would actually BE IN the juice, if that is the case and its proven dangerous, is going to be miniscule. The idea is what, he added icing whitener to give it the cloudy look? Ok, how much TD is IN iciing whitener, and how much did he add?


There is zero facts being presented here. Nothing. Zilch. The outrage and fingerpointing being shown by everyone is based on nothing substantial.




And Brennan4X4, Christ.. Thank you, finally.

 

[JmanEspresso]

Ok, it's just coincidence the announcement to change the formula was announced yesterday? If there's no suspect chemicals, why change it? Why are stores accepting returns/exchanges if not all of this is true?

Idk, sounds a little similar to the recent Cinnamon scare, where vendors immediately stopped selling anything with cinnamon in it because of heresay, and then THAT was proven false..

 

[AnnieP65]

No, but you will see it for liquid nicotine. From the MSDS from l-nicotine:

Personal Protection in Case of a Large Spill:
Splash goggles. Full suit. Vapor respirator. Boots. Gloves. A self contained breathing apparatus should be used to avoid
inhalation of the product. Suggested protective clothing might not be sufficient; consult a specialist BEFORE handling this
product

Omg. The cluelessness continues. Do cigarette smokers buy liquid nicotine? Do vapers buy it? No. We buy juice that is supposed to have no poison in it.

Oh my Jesus...

 

[Brennan4x4]

Ok, it's just coincidence the announcement to change the formula was announced yesterday? If there's no suspect chemicals, why change it? Why are stores accepting returns/exchanges if not all of this is true?

I've followed Cuttwood on their instagram before the first thread about Unicorn Milk was ever created here on ECF. I lurk this website profusely. Cuttwood posted that on IG PRIOR to that first random guy's accusations. Believe it or not.

 

[luvchins]

If there is no truth to the claim, the manufacturer should have, and would have, come out publicly to say so.

 

[JmanEspresso]

Omg. The cluelessness continues. Do cigarette smokers buy liquid nicotine? Do vapers buy it? No. We buy juice that is supposed to have no poison in it.

Oh my Jesus...

Are you kidding me?


What do you think is the nicotine in your eliquid? Magic?


what do you think DIYers use to make thier own juice? More magic?

 

[ImThatGuy]

Actually...vapers do buy liquid nicotine...the DIYers...

 

[JmanEspresso]

If there is no truth to the claim, the manufacturer should have, and would have, come out publicly to say so.

OR

perhaps they are gathering evidence to PROVE such a claim, something NOT ONE PERSON HERE HAS DONE.

 

[suspectK]

The bat mobile's outside.

 

[Brennan4x4]

If there is no truth to the claim, the manufacturer should have, and would have, come out publicly to say so.

so everything about celebrities is true in the tabloids, because those people didn't come out publicly to say so.


Next?

 

[ceejay]

I've followed Cuttwood on their instagram before the first thread about Unicorn Milk was ever created here on ECF. I lurk this website profusely. Cuttwood posted that on IG PRIOR to that first random guy's accusations. Believe it or not.

Cuttwood could have known this info was going to get out or many people were questioning the ingredients.

 

[JmanEspresso]

So there MUST be a hidden agenda to them changing the formula, and the fact that it gunks up coils has nothing to do with it at all?

Because Im vaping it right now on my Origen, and this would defintely ruin a carto or clearo in no time.

 

[AnnieP65]

Total agreement. Big thumbs down, ECF. Disappointing.

Biggggg thumbs down. Shocked at ECF.

 

[Brennan4x4]

Cuttwood could have known this info was going to get out or many people were questioning the ingredients.

I'm not arguing for or against Cuttwood. I'm more debating public reaction. There are more claims and evidence to support Chem Trails and aliens in Area 51 than there is for Unicorn Milk.

 

[Jay-dub]

Can everyone stop trolling here.

There has been no legit lab tests run from my understanding from the above troll posts. Its not fair to the vendor to make these kinds of statements without having proof. Remember all the crap people talked about Murdock? I still vape pluid and have not died.

Let's be fair here.

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I think the Vendor owned up to it. Can't be much more fair than that.

PS. Going by my own personal experience on what happens when you criticize this forum or the decisions of the mods in a thread, there are a lot of infractions being handed out from this single thread. Welcome to the club!

 

[squee]

your right lets be fair

option 1 lets not worry or talk about it till 5 years down the line when people have issue's first

So we don't be unfair to the poor vendor

Or maybe option 2 you can get some evidence that its safe and get back to us

I think I prefer option 2

This right here? Is exactly the reasoning behind all the anti-ecig legislation and regulation/banning that is going on right now, nation wide. We don't know, we don't have studies, it's too new, etc... If you truly prefer option 2, then you shouldn't be vaping at all. All the ingredients in liquid, save for maybe PG, are all unknowns as inhalants. Sure they're regarded as safe for ingestion but there aren't any real studies about inhalation. For any of it. Even PG has never been studied as far as continual, all day long for X amount of time that we use it for - no one uses an asthma inhaler like that.

That being said, I'm certainly not advocating putting things like that in liquid but I'm not gonna spaz about this either - IMO, the reaction is a little overblown

 

[JmanEspresso]

Actually no, a second vendor "said he spoke the cuttwood owner, etc etc"

 

[rabernet]

Does anyone else find it troubling that the manufacturer is not being truthful in his advertisement about the real reason he changed the formula?

I was just about to post the same thing. His "reason" is not the real reason he's removing it, and that speaks volumes to me.

 

[JmanEspresso]

This right here? Is exactly the reasoning behind all the anti-ecig legislation and regulation/banning that is going on right now, nation wide. We don't know, we don't have studies, it's too new, etc... If you truly prefer option 2, then you shouldn't be vaping at all. All the ingredients in liquid, save for maybe PG, are all unknowns as inhalants. Sure they're regarded as safe for ingestion but there aren't any real studies about inhalation. For any of it. Even PG has never been studied as far as continual, all day long for X amount of time that we use it for - no one uses an asthma inhaler like that.

That being said, I'm certainly not advocating putting things like that in liquid but I'm not gonna spaz about this either - IMO, the reaction is a little overblown

A little overblown?

Thats the understatement of the year.



some people just love being outraged and love fingerpointing.