Upgrading from Ego and battery paranoia

[screwball]

Ok, so here is the deal. I love my ego but I want to upgrade so I can get better taste and maybe vapor for when I am bored at home.
The problem is I am crazy paranoid when it comes to batteries. I have friends who build RC Cars and I have seen what they can do when .... goes wrong.
So can I have some hardware recommendations that A) havnt had any problems with battery failure and B) some comments from you guys on if you've had any problems with batteries when vaping or charging? please and thank you.

 

[minitater]

I upgraded from an ego style battery two years ago with an MVP2 and an eleaf Istick for my wife over a year ago and am not only satisfied, but have had no problems with the batteries in them.

 

[screwball]

I was looking at the MVP3 and was considering it. its definitely on my list.
I should also point out I'm looking for something that is semi Future Proof. I'll likely use a tank on it to start but I would like to learn to build coils and get a RDA at somepoint

 

[Rucerius]

I was looking at the MVP3 and was considering it. its definitely on my list.
I should also point out I'm looking for something that is semi Future Proof. I'll likely use a tank on it to start but I would like to learn to build coils and get a RDA at somepoint

If you're looking for something semi-future proof you'll be looking for a long time, however there are a couple out there that are firmware upgradable. The SX Mini is a good choice, if you don't mind waiting a bit there's the up-coming DNA200 which is looking particularly interesting.

 

[chopdoc]

I went from Ego's a few months ago and am now Vaping on IPV4's and just got today an Evic VT and love the temp control on both of them. I tried the kayfun lights and V4's, the Lemo's, Orchids and foggers and at the time they was ok until I got the Kanger subtank mini's and now they are all I vape on. Dont get me wrong here, I like the Kayfuns and the lemo had great flavor delivery but in my opinion, the kanger STM's are what I been looking for without going to a RDA. Awesome flavor and cloud delivery.

Sadly I have around 30 EGO batteries, a couple Spinner II's, maybe 100 CE4's & CE5's, around 30 Kanger T3S's & MT3's, some protanks and other Ego gear sitting around unused now but I am starting to give them away to new vaper's so not a total loss.

 

[alicewonderland]

if you do look into devices that are user-replaceable battery, there are a few out there that have built in safety features like short circuit protection and reverse polarity protection. the DNA40 board is one of those that have those nice protections so you dont have to worry as much for battery safety. There are countless others but the vaporshark is the only one I have had personal experience with so its the only one I can recommend, also the price drop of the vaporshark rDNA40, should make it a good candidate. ~130$ I believe, all the safety features I mentioned so you dont have to worry about batterys kabooming on you.

Stay away from the IPV3 though, those are real sketchy if you read around, lots of them catching fire and such due to faulty builds from the manufacturer.

 

[RipCigs]

Get good batteries, don't build stupid low resistance coils that your batteries can't handle, put them in your mods and chargers the right way and you're good
I don't think i've heard of batteries blowing up from proper usage. Especially since hybrids and IMRs vent instead of exploding, even if something does go wrong you will feel the heat in time.
I am on a sigelei mini 30w, no problems with it yet. Can't comment on other mods, though if i had cash i'd go for the sx.
Regarding batteries, 20A - Samsung 25r, LG HE2 and LGHE4. Above 20A Sony VTC4 or VTC5 if you are sure they are authentic. The widely recommended charger is Nitecore ( i2 i4 d2 d4).
Good luck and happy vaping

 

[alicewonderland]

i wouldnt recommend mechs, let alone hybrids, to any new'ish' user, that includes one switching from just ego style batteries.

 

[WonderDude32]

I use an IPV4 and like it. Segelei boxes are very popular and a lot of people like them. The Subox Mini Kit and evic VCT are both new and still being evaluated by the public. The evic was reported to drop out of temp control mode but I haven't heard anything about battery issues with any of these. About 90% of big wattage boxes will need you to supply the batteries, so get to reading my friend. I don't make suggestions on batteries as it's started too many arguments.

 

[jbok]

I I don't make suggestions on batteries as it's started too many arguments.

What are you trying to say !

 

[screwball]

I've considered a box mod I can put my own batteries in but I dont really know my ohms law so Im hesitant to go that route.

I'm not gunna be upgrading till septemberish so if there are any upcoming devices I should look into like the DNA200 thats a option to.
Currently Im thinking vaporshark, I'd be good for tanks and coils on that as far as experimenting and learning to build coils as well as sub tanks?

 

[alicewonderland]

I've considered a box mod I can put my own batteries in but I dont really know my ohms law so Im hesitant to go that route.

I'm not gunna be upgrading till septemberish so if there are any upcoming devices I should look into like the DNA200 thats a option to.
Currently Im thinking vaporshark, I'd be good for tanks and coils on that as far as experimenting and learning to build coils as well as sub tanks?

with short circuit protection you really dont need to know ohms law to the teeth, if the coil is wrong in any way or the mod cannot fire it, the board will prevent it from firing / prevent you from hurting yourself.

The vaporshark or any DNA40 board does this well, you dont need ohm-meters or need to know ohms law to put a coil on the DNA40 - if it is too low resistance it just wont fire it, if it is too high it just wont fire it, if the coil is made wrong and you have shorts - it just wont fire it. When you place the coil on the dna40 itself, and try to fire it - it will show you the resistance of the coil on the mod itself which basically gets rid of you having to use an ohm meter or know all the in and outs of ohms law.

- I've had a dna30 and dna40 and started on those mods last year and have yet to purchase or use an actual ohm reader. I just use the device itself as an ohm reader, which works completely fine and does not damage it in any way if you try to put a screwed up coil on it.


the upcoming dna200 devices will have LiPo batteries, it takes 3x18650s to run the dna200 board so I doubt they will make triple 18650 replaceable battery dna200s, and if they did the mod would be gigantic taking into account the room they need to fit 3x18650s+the big dna200 board.


tl;dr: If you buy a box mod, make sure it has short circuit protection/ reverse battery protection. Having these two features is a necessity and will save you time, effort, and future headaches.

short circuit protection = prevents dmg to mod + added benefit of built in ohm-meter.
reverse battery protection = so you wont fry the board/ruin your mod if you put battery in the wrong way.

 

[screwball]

with short circuit protection ....

Hmmm, I may go that route then. any idea how well they handle tanks? are they worthwhile or should I go straight to coils?

 

[alicewonderland]

Hmmm, I may go that route then. any idea how well they handle tanks? are they worthwhile or should I go straight to coils?

I personally havent ran a new tank on my dna40, it runs up to 40watts though and I vape on RDA's 0.3-1.5resistance fine on it, its enough power. I'm sure tanks work on it fine. I ran my old clearomizer kanger aerotank on it (ego size clearomizer) for a month til I used RDA's. The new tanks should work fine with it. If the issue you are worried about is if the stuff you have now will do fine on a vaporshark, dont be worried cuz its basically just like your ego battery, except with a higher ceiling of power, so you can dial it down to how you vape now on your ego, or raise the power up with subtanks/RDAs.

 

[screwball]

more worried about getting a tank that can take some sub coils for a month or two till I can afford a good RDA.
or on the flip side are there any well recommended DNA40s that are cheaper?

 

[alicewonderland]

more worried about getting a tank that can take some sub coils for a month or two till I can afford a good RDA.
or on the flip side are there any well recommended DNA40s that are cheaper?

theres an hcigar dna40 one thats supposedly the cheapest at the time i got mine. But with the price drop on the rDNA40 vaporshark, its a steal only at 130$ to be honest. Even on cybermonday when I got mine I paid 160$, and would certainly purchase it for 130$ today if I didnt have one.

the new subtanks will run fine on a DNA40, probably not one of the extreme subohm tanks like the arctic, but aspire, kangers, lemo, melos whatever u call em, they will work fine. There are also some affordable and good RDA's out there as well - check out the Mutation X line by indulgence or the new REMentry RDA by REMcreations (both authentic RDA's), they both cost the same or less than some of the subtanks.

if youre going to be new to rebuilding though, id suggest getting a tank first. Ideal choice would be one with replaceable coil heads as well as an RDA section replaceable, such as the kanger subtank mini or the Delta (RDA part sold separately), there is also the saucecode that VaporDNA recently released. You get both an RDA section and you can replace the coil heads with the premades if you dont want to dive into the RDA section yet.


Kanger Sub Tank Mini Black Kanger Sub Tank White

Black Joyetech Delta II Sub-Ohm Tank
delta RDA section separate: Joyetech Delta 2 RBA Kit

Project Sub-Ohm SauceCode BXDC Sub-Ohm Tank

if you do look into getting a vaporshark, make sure you get the right one. they have the DNA30, DNA40, rDNA40. The rDNA40 is the only one with replaceable battery, the others aren't user replaceable.

 

[roxynoodle]

Since you're using clearos right now, get a mod that goes down to 5 or 7W. I would avoid the Sigelei 100 or 150W because they only go down to 10W, which will burn your juice.

If you can afford it, the Yihi sx mini m class.

Otherwise, consider:

Sigelei 50W v2r
VS rDNA40
MVP 3.0 or Pro

I'm going to say to avoid the Evic vt at this time based on PBusardo's post today on Tasteyourjuice.com.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I am considering a VS Vaporflask (pre-order) and/or a VS rDNA40. I have a VS rDNA 30 and it is nice. The VF is $190 and the VS rDNA is $130. It just dropped from $189. $130 is good, but only one battery. I am still thinking.

I also have an MVP 3.0 and it is good. My wife has been stealing it though...

 

[edyle]

Ok, so here is the deal. I love my ego but I want to upgrade so I can get better taste and maybe vapor for when I am bored at home.
The problem is I am crazy paranoid when it comes to batteries. I have friends who build RC Cars and I have seen what they can do when .... goes wrong.
So can I have some hardware recommendations that A) havnt had any problems with battery failure and B) some comments from you guys on if you've had any problems with batteries when vaping or charging? please and thank you.

tough question;
normally i'd say for a half pack a day smoker an ego type setup is the way to go.

But I don't know but only guessing that you're more like a half pack a day smoker.

The whole reason I switched from ego batts back in 2013 after using them for 3 to 6 months was one of them vented out on me; thankfully it was just a constant vent for 5 minutes and not a POW! for 5 milliseconds.
The achey brakey part was sitting by watching this thing vent on the floor and wondering what to do; I felt so helpless.

And that is why I got 2 replaceable battery mods.
If a battery started venting, at least I could take the battery out

With rc stuff they use batteries called LiPo batteries (I think)
The batteries you need to look for are the "IMR" batteries

 

[alicewonderland]

I am considering a VS Vaporflask (pre-order) and/or a VS rDNA40. I have a VS rDNA 30 and it is nice. The VF is $190 and the VS rDNA is $130. It just dropped from $189. $130 is good, but only one battery. I am still thinking.

I also have an MVP 3.0 and it is good. My wife has been stealing it though...

VS rDNA40 is definitely a good price for a good mod, although, the one downside of it is that if you are OCD on your mods looking perfect all the time, you might be a bit dissapointed because the vaporshark paint dings off. I see many complains about the VS paint, but to be honest, anything that is painted can scratch and ding up and i never really saw a difference in scratch/ding resistance from anything painted i have compared to the vaporshark.

just saw the post above mine-

the VS rDNA40 comes with a battery already also, so u dont have to look for one. 'Built in' batteries such as those of the MVP and DNA200 devices coming out, those are the ones with LiPo's. The replaceable batteries we use are mainly 18650 Lithium-Ion batteries (Li-Ion)