Using ecig battery as heat source

[Kuzko]

Hi, I’m wondering if there was any way to modify an ecig battery and parts from an atomizer in order to heat up a 1/16″ thick nickel plate about 1″ wide? Would I wrap the plate in the coil? Could I use the nickel plate as the coil? Would the battery be able to heat something that large to up to 400 degrees? If so how long?

Please excuse use my ignorance of electricity and thermal dynamics.

 

[Izan]

Hi and welcome,

Let me post this: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html

Then I will ask, WHY? What are you trying to do?

Cheers
I

 

[Akasticker]

Why does it matter why? He said nothing to reference your accusing link, he's trying to heat up a nickel plate for eliquid...

 

[Rickajho]

Yeah - where are you going with this? And why? It seems a horribly impractical thing to do.

 

[Kuzko]

I'm trying to make a vaporizer that does not use a wick. I want to use convection, battery heats up nickel plate, I have another system that would draw air close to the plate and then heated air hits the tobacco or ejuice. And I want to make this all handheld

 

[VHRB2014]

Why does it matter why? He said nothing to reference your accusing link, he's trying to heat up a nickel plate for eliquid...

Some things are intuitive. You know, been there..... done that.

 

[Kuzko]

Nobody with an actual answer?

Btw nicotine is a drug, this forum does not allow "other" drug talk

 

[Izan]

I'm trying to make a vaporizer that does not use a wick. I want to use convection, battery heats up nickel plate, I have another system that would draw air close to the plate and then heated air hits the tobacco or ejuice. And I want to make this all handheld

kinda like the "Evoke" from loto?

The larger the mass the more energy needed.
How long does it need to run?

Handheld covers a huge range of sizes. Do you mean "pocketable"?

Good luck
I

 

[AngelicTomPetty]

There is like 50 companies who make stuff like this already isnt there? Why not just buy one of their vaporizers.

 

[Kuzko]

Yes, pocketable. Run time until charge would be acceptable under 10 min.

Rom petty, may I ask what companies, very interested, I've done a lot of online research and most use torches or are conduction

Kind of like evoke, but they still use a wick I think, just induction instead of conduction, in my opinion, convection is the cleanest vapor tho

 

[T4T3Z0R]

I too have seen these but i dont think we can post links because of the intended purpose they sell these particular atomizers for

 

[AngelicTomPetty]

I have a convection oven at home.

 

[Izan]

Yes, pocketable. Run time until charge would be acceptable under 10 min.

Rom petty, may I ask what companies, very interested, I've done a lot of online research and most use torches or are conduction

Kind of like evoke, but they still use a wick I think, just induction instead of conduction, in my opinion, convection is the cleanest vapor tho

You are gonna need a metered dosing system and some kind of temp monitoring system to make this work. Powering it is the easy part.

Cheers
I

 

[philoshop]

It would require a lot more power than you'll get from an e-cig battery, and it would have to be heated indirectly, like with a giant coil under it or something.
I've said more than I wanted to already.

 

[Zanderist]

Cut the bottom half of an aluminum can off, place a lit candle underneath fill with juice and inhale with straw. This is the 1800s style vape build.

 

[Ryedan]

Hi, I’m wondering if there was any way to modify an ecig battery and parts from an atomizer in order to heat up a 1/16″ thick nickel plate about 1″ wide? Would I wrap the plate in the coil? Could I use the nickel plate as the coil? Would the battery be able to heat something that large to up to 400 degrees? If so how long?

Please excuse use my ignorance of electricity and thermal dynamics.

Interesting design problem

We use Li-ion batteries that are not specific to ecigs.

You can't use the plate as a heating element because it would short the battery.

1/16" thick by 1" is IMO way too much mass to be quickly heated to 400 deg with the batteries we use, specially once you get liquid on it. The surface area is so big that you would need way more watts than are available to get enough power per square inch to boil the juice.

IMO you would be better off to work with a wick-less coil rather than a plate, or a much smaller and thinner plate, or a more powerful power supply.

 

[r_sizzle]

Could you build a stovetop coil with all the wraps touching? It could serve as the "plate"

 

[Runamok3x]

Try a halogen headlight bulb on a 12v motorcycle battery.
I think they get up to 500 degrees.

Halogen oven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kuzko]

Will mull all of these ideas, thanks for the input everybody

 

[AttyPops]

...snip...
Please excuse use my ignorance of electricity and thermal dynamics.

I don't care why you do what you do, but just remember that batteries that are over-exerted can and do blow up/vent.
So unless you know what you're doing....
you probably shouldn't be doing it. Make sure you at least do all the math first, whatever you hook the battery up to. And check the specs on the specific battery. And use a decent multi-meter.

Sorry to be a downer. Just don't want you to get hurt or have to redecorate your entire work area after the fire.