Using The Direct E-Cig.. Anyone Know Of Compatible Batteries / Atties?

[LowThudd]

Thanks for the reply.. I was coming to the conclusion that the Direct E-Cig is a Smokestik right before your reply, and you just confirmed my hunch...

So... Direct E-Cig is being misleading when they state the battery is a 5 volt unit.. Hmmmm. Another reason that I am glad I used my PayPal debit card. Don't get me wrong.. I like the Direct E-Cig. I just don't appreciate being lied to by them. I now look forward to getting some extra accessories for the Direct E-Cig.

I must admit that the Cig2o gives me a more satisfying throat hit, along with good vapor, and taste. I will probably get similar results with the Direct E-Cig using cartos.. I was checking-out some threads and other info stating the Smokestick cartos are of better design and quality.. They are still less expensive than the ones Direct E-Cig offers. I more than likely will give them a try.

Thanks again for the reply and info westamyx...

It is not a SmokeStik at all(SS batts and cartos are trademarked), however the SmokeStik cartos will fit and they are the best cartos I've used. Check out this thread for why. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokestik/126895-a-2.html#post1982446 Also, any auto will be activated by blowing into the LED(AFAIK), even vacuum powered KR8s that have little or no flow through the LED end. Just put your lips around the LED end like you are going to vape it, but blow instead of suck. I really would like to know if these are actually 5v. I kinda doubt it. http://www.smokestikusa.com/ecf/

Edit: LOL, I see you have already read up on the SS cartos. Missed that. BTW, SS has gold batts for $15, and they are a helluva lot better looking than the Direct batt.

 

[Technonut]

Thanks LowThud... I'm learning more and more everyday thanks to this great Forum. Your suggestion worked.. I stuck the leads on the Direct E-Cig, did what you suggested, and came up with a reading of 3.751 volts...

For comparison's sake.. I took a reading on a Cig2o battery, and came up with a reading of 3.907 volts... No wonder the unit vapes well. I wonder how this compares to a generic KR808D-1 battery??

 

[LowThudd]

Thanks LowThud... I'm learning more and more everyday thanks to this great Forum. Your suggestion worked.. I stuck the leads on the Direct E-Cig, did what you suggested, and came up with a reading of 3.751 volts...

For comparison's sake.. I took a reading on a Cig2o battery, and came up with a reading of 3.907 volts... No wonder the unit vapes well. I wonder how this compares to a generic KR808D-1 battery??

Well, that is where it gets complicated. Loaded batt voltage is entirely different from unloaded. This thread everyone should read. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html FWIW, scottbee was one of the SmokeStik Pitbull beta testers, and he got a loaded voltage of 3.4v.

 

[FeistyAlice]

I have three different 4081 batteries that I was going to try using same cart/atty last night, after my post but all of them were running low on charge so had to charge them up first. The reason is that I want to see if there is any significant difference in the three despite whatever real voltage they put out. (I can't find my little meter.) Also the hole on the threaded end of the DirectEcig battery is tee-nitsy compared to the other two. The other two holes are more "regular" sized, at least from my limited experience with ten 801 batteries from different sources, the one auto for my eGo (the rest are manual), and the auto battery for a 7-11 XHale 02. I want to compare the draw and vapor from each.

BTW... I made a mistake last night.. One of the 4081 batteries came with a starter kit from Cloud9smoking. I took advantage of an offer they had and got a pink set for $29.00. Their model number is CL9_502. I'm not sure if they have replacement batteries but might. Without checking I do remember that one of their cig type batteries is close to $20.

Since my DH uses 801 autos very heavily sometimes the batteries do get a little flooded. We do some wrist flicks and a good clean up of batteries before putting them on chargers but that doesn't always clear them. I have found that sticking a flat toothpick a few mm into the battery hole seems to unstick them. You can't do that with a DirectEcig because the hole is too tiny. This may help to prevent the battery from getting flooded in the first place though. (I've, also, done the alcohol soak for DH's 801 batteries and that seems to help. I turn then upside down, screw end, into about an inch of 99.9% electronics ethyl alcohol to soak for a few hours. Then wrist flick several time and then use a bulb syringe to extract as much as possible and dry, screw end down, on a bed of blue fluval in a small glass, for several days. Seems to help. You can tell when they are gunked when they won't draw on a newly filled cart and cleaned/primed atty. This has become a regular issue for us but DH strongly prefers his 801 auto with hard flat tip.

I'll report back after I have the X-Hale battery charged as I want to test the it with the three 4081s.

Alice

 

[FeistyAlice]

I just went back and did a little research. Cloud9smoking has two kits. CL9-501 (not 510) and CL9-502 that are compatible with the Classic 4081 and DirectEcig. The 501 and 502 are the same ecig but the 502 kit comes with cartos and the 501 comes with carts/attys. All of their batteries, purchased separately, are $19.95. They have other accessories including "extended" cartridges, that hold more, attys, etc.

Alice

 

[LowThudd]

I just went back and did a little research. Cloud9smoking has two kits. CL9-501 (not 510) and CL9-502 that are compatible with the Classic 4081 and DirectEcig. The 501 and 502 are the same ecig but the 502 kit comes with cartos and the 501 comes with carts/attys. All of their batteries, purchased separately, are $19.95. They have other accessories including "extended" cartridges, that hold more, attys, etc.

Alice

Just to let you know, those are probably just rebranded RN4081s. The SmokeStik batts are custom built and Trademarked and have the best auto sensor I have ever used. Even die hard manual lovers are impressed. In fact, I was one because of my experience w/ the xhaleo2 and the 510 autos. They suk compared to the SS batts. FWIW, I have had generic RN4081 batt, and it also suked and was sound activated, which I despise. Not sure what kind of switch the Cloud9 batts are, but I know they don't have the SS switch, which I have found no equal to. And the SS Gold batts w/ a Cubic Zirconium ash cap($15) are just so classy. I was really surprised at how nice they are in person, and as for the PitBull, it is a totally different beast w/ a 250mAh batt instead of the standard 170-180mAh RN4081s. Just not worth paying more money for a less functioning batt. Maybe you could pick up a SS batt and compare them. I would be interested in your findings. And again, the SS cartos are not like other cartos. They don't burn even when dry.

 

[DocWyatt]

@LowThudd. Considering that you are a SS fan boy, lol, do you think the TASTE is better with that than the KR808? Sorry, but i am still completely dumbfounded by my new KR808. I think it is horrible - at best. I tried it for an hour and gave up and am back to puffing on my Safe Cig for taste and EGO for vapor and when I need high doses of nico.

I may just buy another or a 4081 to find out myself. I HAVE to have an answer on this....

 

[LowThudd]

@LowThudd. Considering that you are a SS fan boy, lol, do you think the TASTE is better with that than the KR808? Sorry, but i am still completely dumbfounded by my new KR808. I think it is horrible - at best. I tried it for an hour and gave up and am back to puffing on my Safe Cig for taste and EGO for vapor and when I need high doses of nico.

I may just buy another or a 4081 to find out myself. I HAVE to have an answer on this....

Taste is MUCh better. I can't say that TH is better, I'm not a fan of TH. But both vapor production and flavor are greatly improved, as well as ease of draw. BTW, my V4L PT has almost identical draw characteristics to the SS batts. Not sure why, but I know from experience that KR8 batts have a much heavier draw. I much prefere the SS cartos on the KR8 especially the PT. $15 on that Gold batt is a great deal, even if you only use it for "Monkey Suit" occasions. lol

 

[DocWyatt]

Taste is MUCh better. I can't say that TH is better, I'm not a fan of TH. But both vapor production and flavor are greatly improved, as well as ease of draw. BTW, my V4L PT has almost identical draw characteristics to the SS batts. Not sure why, but I know from experience that KR8 batts have a much heavier draw. I much prefere the SS cartos on the KR8 especially the PT. $15 on that Gold batt is a great deal, even if you only use it for "Monkey Suit" occasions. lol

I am beginning to think my Safe Cig is better than I had originally thought!... lol. Their manual says it is a "specially designed 3.6V battery". If that is true, then it seems to be rather powerful. Then again their site also says the battery will last 7 hours. True it "might" last 7 hours IF you don't use it!! lol

Another thread on here a poster responded that the SS cartomizers fit the Safe Cig. I cannot find any other info to know if this is correct or not... I am not even certain it is an E9. Will SS carto's fit an E9?

 

[LowThudd]

I am beginning to think my Safe Cig is better than I had originally thought!... lol. Their manual says it is a "specially designed 3.6V battery". If that is true, then it seems to be rather powerful. Then again their site also says the battery will last 7 hours. True it "might" last 7 hours IF you don't use it!! lol

Another thread on here a poster responded that the SS cartomizers fit the Safe Cig. I cannot find any other info to know if this is correct or not... I am not even certain it is an E9. Will SS carto's fit an E9?

Unless it is load tested, there is now way to know what it is under load. Most PVs come off the charger at 3.7-4.2v. But under load everything changes. Also, like I said before. the resistence of the carto can make all the difference in the world. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html

 

[LowThudd]

I am beginning to think my Safe Cig is better than I had originally thought!... lol. Their manual says it is a "specially designed 3.6V battery". If that is true, then it seems to be rather powerful. Then again their site also says the battery will last 7 hours. True it "might" last 7 hours IF you don't use it!! lol

Another thread on here a poster responded that the SS cartomizers fit the Safe Cig. I cannot find any other info to know if this is correct or not... I am not even certain it is an E9. Will SS carto's fit an E9?

No, E9s have an outie, and RN4081 batts have an innie. lol

 

[DocWyatt]

There is a thread on here that asks if it is a 4081. There was never a firm answer, but most think it is in fact a 4081. I may order a set of SS carto's just to confirm it.

There are a number of issue with it, namely COST. Just a battery is $30. But, if it is a proprietary battery and a true 3.6V, it is possible that there are no true generic replacements for it. 3.6v would be far better than anything similar on a 4081, so i am very skeptical.

I may have to buy a volt meter and test it myself. Then again, I am a complete tard when it comes to anything even remotely related to engineering...

As far as "innie" on the 4081, you mean innie on the battery, correct? The male is the carto and female is the battery on this...

Edit: Just noticed you said 4081 has an innie battery, so that's answered.

 

[LowThudd]

There is a thread on here that asks if it is a 4081. There was never a firm answer, but most think it is in fact a 4081. I may order a set of SS carto's just to confirm it.

There are a number of issue with it, namely COST. Just a battery is $30. But, if it is a proprietary battery and a true 3.6V, it is possible that there are no true generic replacements for it. 3.6v would be far better than anything similar on a 4081, so i am very skeptical.

I may have to buy a volt meter and test it myself. Then again, I am a complete tard when it comes to anything even remotely related to engineering...

FYI SS does sell single cartos kinda a waste with shipping. BTW, the Tobacco cartos are so so. Kinda "Analoguish", but not my fav. The menthol on the other hand is fantastic, not too minty, and a nice cream/vanilla undertone. SS batts are load tested at 3.4v, KR8 at 3.7. The only way you can load test the bat is to use a resistor settup like scottbee uses in the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html thread. You need more than a volt meter.

 

[LowThudd]

They sell cheap E9s here: E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarette | E-Cigarette, Of coarse they also sell ...... in e-juice so who knows WTF the are doing to the e-cig industry.

 

[DocWyatt]

They sell cheap E9s here: E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarette | E-Cigarette, Of coarse they also sell ...... in e-juice so who knows WTF the are doing to the e-cig industry.

Well, with a female battery the Safe Cig is definitely not an E9 then. I am almost certain it is a 4081 or something that is compatible with it.

Another note on the KR808, it doesn't hold jackson for juice. Perhaps the V4L are different. I can fill a cap 1/3 (using the the condom method) and it will squirt out the other side. I can fill a cap 1/2 on either the 510 or my Safe Cig carto and that won't happen.

Ok, enough bagging on my KR808. But if someone knocked on my door and offered me $15 for it, SOLD! And I would think they got ripped off... lol.

 

[LowThudd]

Well, with a female battery the Safe Cig is definitely not an E9 then. I am almost certain it is a 4081 or something that is compatible with it.

Another note on the KR808, it doesn't hold jackson for juice. Perhaps the V4L are different. I can fill a cap 1/3 (using the the condom method) and it will squirt out the other side. I can fill a cap 1/2 on either the 510 or my Safe Cig carto and that won't happen.

Ok, enough bagging on my KR808. But if someone knocked on my door and offered me $15 for it, SOLD! And I would think they got ripped off... lol.

I hate the condom method. It's meh in my oppinion. Here is what I do. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartomizer-issues/129807-new-filling-method-lt-tap.html

 

[deback]

@LowThudd. Considering that you are a SS fan boy, lol, do you think the TASTE is better with that than the KR808? Sorry, but i am still completely dumbfounded by my new KR808. I think it is horrible - at best. I tried it for an hour and gave up and am back to puffing on my Safe Cig for taste and EGO for vapor and when I need high doses of nico.

I may just buy another or a 4081 to find out myself. I HAVE to have an answer on this....

TheBuss - Are you vaping with a carto that has aged for about 24 hours (after filling the carto) with your 808D? I'll be receiving two KR808D-1s in the mail tomorrow (both passthroughs), so I'm curious what to expect. For me, there's a world of difference in the taste and throat hits if I let newly-filled cartos sit for 24 to 27 hours before vaping them.

Also, the taste and THs on the two new 5V 510 passthroughs I received in the mail on Thursday were much better when using cartos that had aged for at least 24 hours.

And, also, the taste using the same liquid mixture in the same cartos (aged the same length of time) is different when I use my eGo 1000mAh batteries. I can taste more of the Glycerin when using the eGos, for some reason.

 

[DocWyatt]

TheBuss - Are you vaping with a carto that has aged for about 24 hours (after filling the carto) with your 808D? I'll be receiving two KR808D-1s in the mail tomorrow (both passthroughs), so I'm curious what to expect. For me, there's a world of difference in the taste and throat hits if I let newly-filled cartos sit for 24 to 27 hours before vaping them.

Also, the taste and THs on the two new 5V 510 passthroughs I received in the mail on Thursday were much better when using cartos that had aged for at least 24 hours.

And, also, the taste using the same liquid mixture in the same cartos (aged the same length of time) is different when I use my eGo 1000mAh batteries. I can taste more of the Glycerin when using the eGos, for some reason.

I generally do not have enough patience to wait that long... lol. But regardless, i can fill one of my 510's for my EGO and smoke it immediately and it's fine. Perhaps far better if I wait, but still. The same for my Safe Cig. I really shouldn't comment on my KR808 anymore as I simply despise the thing. Especially since i was so excited to get it....

I will say this, and likely will get eggs and tomatoes thrown at me.... I am not a huge fan of the taste from the 510. The flavor gets lost in the vapor with the EGO, to some extent. It is still the best i have to actually replace an analog because of the strong hits.... but I MUCH prefer the taste of my Safe Cig, which is likely a 4081. I just am not sure a 4081 has enough umph to actually replace an analog habit, while the EGO does...

So, i find myself mostly using my EGO to get my fix BUT puffing on the Safe Cig for taste.

 

[deback]

I generally do not have enough patience to wait that long... lol. But regardless, i can fill one of my 510's for my EGO and smoke it immediately and it's fine. Perhaps far better if I wait, but still. The same for my Safe Cig. I really shouldn't comment on my KR808 anymore as I simply despise the thing. Especially since i was so excited to get it....

I will say this, and likely will get eggs and tomatoes thrown at me.... I am not a huge fan of the taste from the 510. The flavor gets lost in the vapor with the EGO, to some extent. It is still the best i have to actually replace an analog because of the strong hits.... but I MUCH prefer the taste of my Safe Cig, which is likely a 4081. I just am not sure a 4081 has enough umph to actually replace an analog habit, while the EGO does...

So, i find myself mostly using my EGO to get my fix BUT puffing on the Safe Cig for taste.

Well, litecigusa.net didn't send the two KR808D-1 passthroughs I ordered. They crossed that item off my invoice and wrote: $21.90 was refunded. I received no email telling me the passthroughs were out of stock. No nothing. But they sent the 3 boxes of KR808 cartos I ordered, even though I have no use for them now that I don't have the KR808 passthroughs. They didn't give me a chance to cancel those cartos. I have a couple of 4081 adapters but don't know if they'll work with the 808 cartos to fit my 510 batteries. And I don't want to open up one of these 808 cartos to try it, since I'll probably have to send these three boxes back or wait until I can find the 808 passthroughs from another supplier (if I decide to do that).

I'm also having the same problem with taste (and throat hits) using the eGo batteries. I feel like I'm vaping mainly VG when using them. I have much better taste and throat hits using the two 5V 510 passthroughs I received from Madvapes the other day. So I'll just use the eGos when I'm away from home and the passthroughs when I'm home.

Also, Volcano sent me a replacement passthrough, and this one is much more sturdy looking. The other two Volcano passthroughs I've had for the last 3 weeks are now broken, so I sent all three broken Volcano passthroughs back in today's mail. I'm pretty sure they'll send me two more replacements.

I sorta miss the days when it was so easy to just open a pack of cigs, light one, and smoke it. But I can't go back to that. Just can't...

 

[Technonut]

Thanks Alice!!... EXACTLY what I was looking for. I'm going to grab a spare battery or two, an atty, and some cartomizers. Do you know if their batteries have the small pin-hole like the Direct E-cig? I kind of like that feature.

I'm going to give the Direct to my Girlfriend.. Personally, I'm moving on to bigger things.. I purchased a Fistpack from the For Sale Forum at a good price, and a Bartleby from the guy that makes them. Both should be here this week. I did alot of research, and I think they will suit my needs well...

I just went back and did a little research. Cloud9smoking has two kits. CL9-501 (not 510) and CL9-502 that are compatible with the Classic 4081 and DirectEcig. The 501 and 502 are the same ecig but the 502 kit comes with cartos and the 501 comes with carts/attys. All of their batteries, purchased separately, are $19.95. They have other accessories including "extended" cartridges, that hold more, attys, etc.

Alice