UVO Systems Aqua ....I want this badboy

[ianmcconnell]

This is definitely solvable, but people will need a little more info to figure it out as there are a lot of variables that can yield problems like this.

What type of battery are you using? What size? Is it fully charged or at all depleted? Even in a VV mod this makes a difference.

How did you make the coils - are they spaced or compressed? What type of wire and how many wraps for each coil?

When you fire it, what kind of action are you seeing on the coils? Do they glow at all? Does one glow more than the other? Do the 'legs' of the coil glow at all?

Also make sure your coils do not touch the deck or posts, or the chimney when assembled. If they do the deck etc will conduct part of your voltage and rob heat from your coils. If you feel the deck getting pretty hot after several fires then this is happening.

Lastly, yes, a good mech and battery can push more wattage than any VV mod. But you shouldn't NEED one to get some serious action from the Aqua.

Thanks Skauth,

Here is what I can tell you:

Using a Samsung ICR18650-26F (It was not fully charged when I tried it. Reading 3.7V according to my SVD)

For the coils I used a 0.100" Drill bit with 9 tight wraps on each coil. 30 swg Kanthal A1 wire.

The coils seem to heat evenly and the legs do not glow hot. I checked to make sure I was not shorting out on the base.

Thanks for the help buddy.

I have just tried a dual coil running in series rather than parallel. It is working great. And it is much easier to build.


Can anyone answer me why running the coils in parallel is better?

 

[dice57]

Thinking with that much wire on a dual coil, it is going to take awhile to heat the coils up. This os more of a sub ohm tank when used in parallel duals.

I use both mounting post sites to attach the coil legs, makes for a fairly easy install.

 

[ianmcconnell]

Thinking with that much wire on a dual coil, it is going to take awhile to heat the coils up. This os more of a sub ohm tank when used in parallel duals.

I use both mounting post sites to attach the coil legs, makes for a fairly easy install.

Yep, that is my feeling too Dice. I may have to buy a different power source. Phewww..... Now I have to research that... lol.

 

[dice57]

Yeah I have a twisted 28 awg dual vertical .3 ohm build that heats up nice and fast on a mechanical.

 

[BlackChad]

I just want to thank you guys for the filling help. I finally found just fill to threads, screw down cap all the way, invert and break vacuum works best for me

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[ianmcconnell]

Dice57, I tried the vertical build and managed to achieve 1.4 ohms. It took less than 10 mins to put together and it works like a dream.

Thanks for the help. I was close to throwing the aqua in the back of the drawer.

 

[Skauth]

Ian,

Glad to hear things are working better!

So, yeah, an ICR batt metering at 3.7 is not necessarily going to push as much power (even with the SVD regulating it) as a fully charged one. Many people prefer a good IMR batt (high drain) because they seem to push power more consistently throughout their charge cycle.

As for the series/parallel question, I would not necessarily say either one is better, as rebuildables are all about tailoring your vape to your exact desires. Parallel is definitely more common, but IMO whatever you like best is best for you. In this case it probably worked better because while your overall resistance was higher (2.0>1.3) the total amount of wraps you were heating was just over half of the original number (10<18). More metal takes more power and time to heat up nicely. If you want to run a standard ohm (1.3+) dual coil setup, maybe try 32g wire so that you can use less wraps to achieve the desired resistance; essentially you've done this by running the coils in series, making it more like a single coil with two 'barrels.'

I will agree that DC setups in rebuildables really shine at the subohm level, though I will also say it is pure adventure that drives people to vape 0.2,0.3,0.4... and more power to them (no pun intended haha), but it's far from necessary. A good 0.8 DC with good airflow and wicking will knock your socks off.

 

[dice57]

Dice57, I tried the vertical build and managed to achieve 1.4 ohms. It took less than 10 mins to put together and it works like a dream.

Thanks for the help. I was close to throwing the aqua in the back of the drawer.

Ian, glad it is working for you. My favorite tool for mounting the coils vertically on the Aqua is using 2 18 gauge blunt tip needles. Great for wrapping and they fit perfectly into the air intake holes for alignment and mounting the coils. I do need to pick up some smaller needle nose pliers though, the ones I have are a bit big for fine work.

The Aqua does take a bit of experimenting to find the build that works best and is flawless, but it's a great performer and still blows me away with my .3 ohm twisted 28 awg vertical build.

 

[Skauth]

Any chance of getting a pic of that build? Curious to see how you lay the wicking.

 

[the4thpower3]

Finally - my FT Origin clone has arrived.
My Tobeco Aqua clone has a real home

Now he can hang out with his buddies and be proud.

 

[bustabo]

Finally - my FT Origin clone has arrived.
My Tobeco Aqua clone has a real home

Now he can hang out with his buddies and be proud.

Your poldiacs junk is hanging out, get him some pants....

 

[the4thpower3]

I like HER naked. I don't put my mouth on guys. lol
I was actually running the Aqua on the poldiac till today.
Naked - she is very close to the same diameter.
Maybe I'll dress her back up now.

 

[dice57]

Any chance of getting a pic of that build? Curious to see how you lay the wicking.

If you are talking to me, I already posted pics back on like page 10 or so, and posted my current twisted 28 build a few pages back. Also posted the build in the Vcore thread.

If you were talking to some one else, then, um, never mind. lmao.

Vape long and Prosper!!

 

[dwcraig1]

Finally - my FT Origin clone has arrived.
My Tobeco Aqua clone has a real home

Now he can hang out with his buddies and be proud.

How are you liking that Taifun GS? I have two but prefer the GT but I really like 'em

 

[the4thpower3]

How are you liking that Taifun GS? I have two but prefer the GT but I really like 'em

Haven't had enough time with either of them yet really.
I haven't been able to put down the Turtleship with the Origen clone. Mmmm.
I'll have to try different builds with both the GT and GS.
They are both on mirco coils and cotton right now.
They both produce good flavor - but the GT seems to be a little more flavorful and warmer with a tighter draw.
Maybe I need to switch out the air tube. I didn't get a replacement airtube for the GT though (from FastTech).
I think I need to get over to the Taifun threads and read up.

 

[vapdivrr]

Help Please.

I just received my Aqua yesterday and was planning on using it with my Itaste SVD. I wrapped couple of coils (only took me 5 hrs to attach to the posts.....lol) and was ready to blast this bad boy but to my dismay it did not make the coils glow nice and red like i have seen on the videos I have watched.

The coils were 2.6 ohm each give me a total resistance of 1.3 ohms which was measured on the internal SVD ohm meter.

Is the SVD just not powerful enough at 15W? I also tried it in Volt mode at 6 Volts with the same disappointing results .

I am vaping it right now with a single 1.3 ohm coil and it is an improvement on my Protank.

Do I need to by another battery type?

Do I need a mech. mod?

Please set me on the right path.

Thanks

imo its just the fact that its to much wire for a vv device to handle. at a max of 15 watts its just not enough. I do believe that you made the best move to accommodate though by just making one long coil for both sides. for the most part I believe that the aqua, with its dual coils are made for a mech device not a vv device unless its a dna-20, or now a dna-30 or using 32g wire for your coils.

 

[dice57]

It's all good, Ian went mechanical, picked up a magneto and some 30 amp batteries and went to the sub ohm zone.

 

[WakingVirtue]

Help Please.

I just received my Aqua yesterday and was planning on using it with my Itaste SVD. I wrapped couple of coils (only took me 5 hrs to attach to the posts.....lol) and was ready to blast this bad boy but to my dismay it did not make the coils glow nice and red like i have seen on the videos I have watched.

The coils were 2.6 ohm each give me a total resistance of 1.3 ohms which was measured on the internal SVD ohm meter.

Is the SVD just not powerful enough at 15W? I also tried it in Volt mode at 6 Volts with the same disappointing results .

I am vaping it right now with a single 1.3 ohm coil and it is an improvement on my Protank.

Do I need to by another battery type?

Do I need a mech. mod?

Please set me on the right path.

Thanks

As frustrating as this may be, I had the same issue yesterday when I received mine. First time coiling I jacked up the coils when trying to get the 2nd coil on. My second run at coiling I was able to get both coils on...Yes! Oh, but I couldn't get the coils to glow at all. I could get a correct resistance reading but nothing when firing. So I took the coils off again. I went for a third re-coil and finally I was able to get the coils to glow. Even at 9 watts this time they glowed good. So my advice is keep trying and make sure to wrap those coils good around the posts. Not sure how I had a good resistance reading but couldn't get it to fire but keep trying.

 

[ianmcconnell]

Hey Guys,

I just received my clear tank from http://www.ultravaping.com/default.asp

My first impression was good but it is tricky to screw the bottom part of the tank on due to the very fine threads. I may have even stripped them

For all interested, this is how it looks....

Ian

 

[WakingVirtue]

Ian, does the airflow still work fine with the clear plastic tank on?