V4L vapor king

[brandon9689]

I just got my v4L vapor king yesterday. Review after review stated that it makes as much vapor as the 510 which I have (manual) but it has a better throat hit and of course the added ease of cartomizers.

I'm thoroughly impressed with the ease and capacity of cartomizers. The throat hit is definitely noticably better than the 510. But I find the vapor production to be sub par at best. It's about as poor as a blu cig (with a manual batt)

is this normal for this model? I'm filling the cartos with drews high voltage liquid which really is a great line of liquids and has given me the vapor production I wanted out of my previous PV. But the VK vapor production just seems to suck regardless of what I fill it with

Insight? I really expected better from the vapor king from v4l

 

[Taryn]

I don't have a 510 so I really can't comment on the differences. I know different juices will affect amount of vapor production and also there is a bit of variable in the cartomizer it's self. Some seem to be real vapor monsters and others are somewhat weak. I know Leaford is working on that issue. But even the lighter vapor producers make more vapor than my boyfriends cigarettes make smoke so it works for me.

I made a list out of what I wanted most from my ecig, and the Vapor King fit them all so that is what I choose. If one of your highest needs is vapor production then it might not be as good of a fit for you. Give it a decent trial and if you still don't like it sell it in the classifieds, I've no doubt it will be snapped right up!

 

[Kent C]

I just got my v4L vapor king yesterday. Review after review stated that it makes as much vapor as the 510 which I have (manual) but it has a better throat hit and of course the added ease of cartomizers.

I'm thoroughly impressed with the ease and capacity of cartomizers. The throat hit is definitely noticably better than the 510. But I find the vapor production to be sub par at best. It's about as poor as a blu cig (with a manual batt)

is this normal for this model? I'm filling the cartos with drews high voltage liquid which really is a great line of liquids and has given me the vapor production I wanted out of my previous PV. But the VK vapor production just seems to suck regardless of what I fill it with

Insight? I really expected better from the vapor king from v4l

It isn't the model although I have the VK KR8 and I'm not that impressed with the battery. It doesn't seem to have the power of the 510 and the KR8 that I have is rated 280mAh and lasts about 1/2 the time of a 510 mega. As far as throat hit, that's more in the nicotine level and the heat helps (and the 510 since it's one of the hottest attys there is with the right batt, so ymmv, I guess, but it's more likely the nicotine since with out that no throat hit).

And what you are experiencing with the difference of vapor production of the various flavors is exactly what I get and others who have reported it. Except that you must have missed a few good vapor flavors because some are as good as any 901 in vapor production. Don't exactly know why the difference unless some cartos are made with VG and some not or that the quality of atomizers used are that different. I'm confident Leaford will do whatever he can to fix that.

 

[critterbug]

brandon, I don't have a problem with vapor level and don't have a frame of comparison except cigs, but I added a few drops of VG to help my last cart [my favorite flavor] last a bit longer and that vapor is about double, I think. It didn't affect flavor much, either. I guess it defeats part of the convenience factor, but I actually enjoy doing it.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Hello, I swapped my V4L Vapor King Kit for my friends black starter kit from Vaporkings.com as he wanted my color batteries and I get a much better draw from this one. I haven't been vaping for very long so i don't know the terms but it seems like a deeper and easier pull ??? Definitely more vapor too.

 

[V-Dub318]

i got a V4L Vapor King for my first pv, and while i havent tried a 510 to compare it with, i must say that mine produces an exceptional amount of vapor. i get much larger clouds of vapor from a puff on this than i did clouds of smoke from a puff on an analog. This is especially true when using the USB passthrough or the extra long (380mAh i believe?) batteries that V4L sells, but even with my normal auto or manual batteries i get a good amount of vapor. i really have no gripes about the batteries either.

I did notice that the vapor production does indeed vary a little bit from cart to cart as kent c said.....some are just better than others in terms of vapor production i guess. certain flavors seem to have better vapor than others but even some carts of the same flavor produce slightly more or less than others....probably has to do with the way they are pre-filled at the factory or something....going to try re-filling some with different juices and see what kind of differences i get....

 

[Kent C]

...going to try re-filling some with different juices and see what kind of differences i get....

Good point here. I have blanks from heaven gifts, filled with my own juice and there's no vapor problem on any I've tried which would make me think that it's the juice in the cartos or how they were filled rather than the atomizer in the cartomizer, but that's still just a guess. I have yet to refill one of the 'bad' ones. I should do that and see. V4L's newport and cuban cigar were two of the worst on vapor and longevity. (cuban cigar being a great flavor though - newport not so much ;-)

 

[Guineahill]

I find that most of them reach peak vapor production after about 20 drags or so. The atomizer is actually buried in filling saturated with liquid, so it is almost like a flooded atty at first. Once a bit of the liquid has been vaped away the vapor production almost always goes up significantly.

A fresh battery can make a big difference in vapor as well. And as so many others have said... some formulas simply produce more vapor than others.

To get more vapor from what you have you can do like critterbug suggested and add a drop or two of VG. But vape on the carto for a bit before adding it! And it will probably only improve if you have the time to let it set for a while before using.

Good luck!

 

[mergryphon]

is this normal for this model? I'm filling the cartos with drews high voltage liquid which really is a great line of liquids and has given me the vapor production I wanted out of my previous PV. But the VK vapor production just seems to suck regardless of what I fill it with

Some of the variation is juice and some is the cart itself. Some prefilled give off plumes.

I've been having more luck reading the messages from leaford about how they fill them originally. Exactly 1ml of liquid per cart gives the best vapor. I use 1ml in a syringe, shoot have in, give it a Taryn whirl in a leaford lanyard, and shoot in the rest, then let it sit overnight.

 

[jlmanno]

I started with a 510 and always had great vapor production. I quit analogs day 1 with it. I bought an adapter 510 to901/808cartomizers as from what I read it seemed they would be convenient without all the constant topping off and dripping like the 510. The 808 carts do give some of the flavors some great taste but none that I've refilled both from purchased and diy juices come anywhere near the vape production of my 510's. It does seem that the empty carts are inconsistent from one to another some have good vapor some lack it. Overfilled ones definitely less production and againd it does vary from flavor to flavor. My higher vg mixes do give me a little extra vapor and I do get longer battery life on my 510 batteries using cartomizers with the adapter versus using the regular 510 atty. Good Luck and happy vaping!

 

[brandon9689]

I sucked a cowboy carto from v4l completely dry, with a certain satisfaction I might add. Cowboy is the probably the best tobacco flavor I've tasted so far, very much like an analog. Great throat hit too.

I refilled it with my high voltage juice from Nhaler, which usually gives a great boost in vapor, it didn't. I primed the carto by dripping in the battery end and the vapor production problem is solved.

This is a great solution for manual battery users, HOWEVER, I do not reccommend this solution for auto batteries. Manual batteries are sealed since there is no need for airflow to activate the heating element. I presume that auto batteries are not sealed, so dripping into the battery end of a carto could flood your battery and kill it. For manual battery users: prime it up. I was about to send it back from disappointment but maybe I'll keep it around now

 

[Kent C]

I sucked a cowboy carto from v4l completely dry, with a certain satisfaction I might add. Cowboy is the probably the best tobacco flavor I've tasted so far, very much like an analog. Great throat hit too.

I refilled it with my high voltage juice from Nhaler, which usually gives a great boost in vapor, it didn't. I primed the carto by dripping in the battery end and the vapor production problem is solved.

This is a great solution for manual battery users, HOWEVER, I do not reccommend this solution for auto batteries. Manual batteries are sealed since there is no need for airflow to activate the heating element. I presume that auto batteries are not sealed, so dripping into the battery end of a carto could flood your battery and kill it. For manual battery users: prime it up. I was about to send it back from disappointment but maybe I'll keep it around now

This is a good idea and it works... for a bit - like dripping. More experimentation needed. I refilled a newport cartomizers with Drew's nuport today with mixed results. A bit better vapor production, but it was really bad with the carto, so that isn't saying much. Drew's nuport in a 501 cart is great on the 510 with any batt, but of course, better on the mods. The refill is on a mod with a new battery and really should be doing better than it is. I need more time on this but at this point - it points to an atomizer weakness or some internal 'wicking' or something when Drew's nuport vapes well in a 510 cart, and not quite as good inside a used cartomizer. Again, the blank cartos I've tried from heaven gifts are still going strong. I not going to come to any conclusion until I try a used cafe mocha frap carto which did good as a prefilled cartomizer, and frankly, until I try this many times and with other flavors.

On the cuban cigar (I'd love to get just the flavoring on this one), I got the 5ml nobacco juice and it simply isn't a big vapor juice- even in a 510 cart. The cafe mocha frap nobacco juice, on the other hand, which does great in the cartomizer also does well with the juice in the 510 cart. This is so distinguishable - the cuban cigar - not much vapor and the cmfrap - good! vapor, and on the same mod. And that tells me that the juice is a factor. Don't know what part or why, just that it is.

 

[VapingRulz]

I think that vapor production is not as good with the Vapor King (KR8) as it is for some other models, so if that's your top priority you may want to try a different model.

That said, the volume of vapor really does vary depending upon the flavor of your cart. Right now I'm vaping banana and there's tons of vapor. I also get lots of vapor from pear, but not from Virginia. I routinely add VG to my refills on the cartos, which increases the vapor a bit.

The VK/KR8 shines when it comes to taste, throat hit, and convenience - not to mention customer service if you buy through V4L. I like to enjoy the taste of whatever I'm vaping and throat hit is my priority, not vapor. Many of the cart flavors from V4L are fantastic.

I think that the JOYE510 produces a lot of vapor but I don't have one so I'm not 100% sure. I'm sure someone will chime in here.

 

[Kent C]

I think that vapor production is not as good with the Vapor King (KR8) as it is for some other models, so if that's your top priority you may want to try a different model.

That said, the volume of vapor really does vary depending upon the flavor of your cart. Right now I'm vaping banana and there's tons of vapor. I also get lots of vapor from pear, but not from Virginia. I routinely add VG to my refills on the cartos, which increases the vapor a bit.

The VK/KR8 shines when it comes to taste, throat hit, and convenience - not to mention customer service if you buy through V4L. I like to enjoy the taste of whatever I'm vaping and throat hit is my priority, not vapor. Many of the cart flavors from V4L are fantastic.

I think that the JOYE510 produces a lot of vapor but I don't have one so I'm not 100% sure. I'm sure someone will chime in here.

Joye 510 produces more vapor than the best vaporing cartomizers I've tried - french pipe, ry4 and cmfrap. But they are close. Interesting that you say Virginia is weak - got one thrown in to my last order of V4Life - haven't tried it yet. They also threw in a few Newports - already reported as very weak on vapor so I was interested enough to try one of them since it could have been just a bad box of them I got earlier, but they were just the same - weak. I don't care for the newport in flavor but so far that's the only one I don't like so well (and I love Drew's Nuport and was a menthol smoker). The expresso is weak on coffee but not that bad. The rest, so far have been really good flavorwise.

I give up on the KR8 after a few days of poor power and performance - the cutoff was killing vapes. The Joye 510 and an adapater is the way to go if you want to try cartomizers - cheaper too and you get the option of cartridges and juice, plus an atty the goes well if you upgrade to a mod.

 

[Beachykeen]

V4L's newport and cuban cigar were two of the worst on vapor and longevity. (cuban cigar being a great flavor though - newport not so much ;-)

I agree with Kent on the vapor and flavor of V4L's Nuport. I love the vapor king batteries but Nuports have poor to none vapor levels. I found some flavors vapor better than others and found most of my cartomizers vapor even better when I refill them. I think this may be due to being broken in. But I get the best vaporing results if I "break in" my new cartomizers using the pass thru first with my cartomizers for the first 10 to 20 hits.

 

[VapingRulz]

I give up on the KR8 after a few days of poor power and performance - the cutoff was killing vapes. The Joye 510 and an adapater is the way to go if you want to try cartomizers - cheaper too and you get the option of cartridges and juice, plus an atty the goes well if you upgrade to a mod.

The new batteries from V4L have a 13-second cutoff, which is more than enough for me! I have nothing but good things to say about the performance of my KR8. I may try the Joye 510 some day, but I'm not in any big hurry. (I may try a mod instead.)

My daughter is a former Newport smoker and she tells me that the Cowboy Menthol from V4L is far more like Newport than Nuport is. She loves it.

 

[Kent C]

VapingRulz:The new batteries from V4L have a 13-second cutoff, which is more than enough for me!

Yeah, I didn't do my research or perhaps got pulled in by a sale ;-) I got the 280mAh and the Joye510 mega is a much better battery. The 8 second cutoff on the 808 is 5 sec. in reality.

I have nothing but good things to say about the performance of my KR8. I may try the Joye 510 some day, but I'm not in any big hurry. (I may try a mod instead.)


My daughter is a former Newport smoker and she tells me that the Cowboy Menthol from V4L is far more like Newport than Nuport is. She loves it.

That's one I didn't get but you reminded me I have the 'Smilin' special menthol'.... Not bad... menthol with a hint of spearmint (which I like better than peppermint usually). Vapor ok on a 801 Janty Stick. Adding some Ecopure 'Fresh' to give it a boost. Ummm... clouds (in Homer's voice ;-)

 

[Kent C]

I agree with Kent on the vapor and flavor of V4L's Nuport. I love the vapor king batteries but Nuports have poor to none vapor levels. I found some flavors vapor better than others and found most of my cartomizers vapor even better when I refill them. I think this may be due to being broken in. But I get the best vaporing results if I "break in" my new cartomizers using the pass thru first with my cartomizers for the first 10 to 20 hits.

I've tried that last with Newport and Cuban Cigar on a 5v pt and it just didn't do it. But still experimenting. I'm convinced that there's no vapor in this batch of Newport cartos, though.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

The new batteries from V4L have a 13-second cutoff, which is more than enough for me!

I swapped my V4L batterys with a friend for his regular KR8 batteries, (he wanted my color ones). The draw is much better, doesn't feel like im sucking at air. Makes the flavors like RY4 taste richer. Kent i suggest you try a regular auto Kanger battery with 10 second cutoff.

 

[keyzygirl]

Ive used a 510 and an 801,they work great for different things.I now only use xlong VK batts and cartomizers.For me its just alot easier.Im always too busy to mess around and I can just pop a new carto on.The xlongs with the 13sec cutoff last me 6-7 hours of pretty heavy vaping.Im really happy with it.