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Ok people. I just tried my friend's vamo with my 18650 battery and it had much better vapor coming from his on the same delivery. We used a 2.0 ohm atty on both our vamos. no comparison. Set at 8w and no.2 vamo setting on both, his faired pretty good while i was getting very little vapor on mine. I know i've reported that lower resistance on mine was better than higher resistance, but that just wasn't accurate either. Apparently i was using a low resis cartomizer which needs less power than 510 atty's (at the same resis) to get decent vapor. Now that I'm thinking of it, the vapor coming from my carto was actually pretty cool. It seems that atty's need mere power to produce decent vapor while the cartos will give u more cool vapor.
Apparently not all vamos are created equal.
Apparently not all vamos are created equal.
Ya know, I am starting to wonder if nahoku and themyst got their vamo's from the same batch that you did.....
Before you guys this was an issue that hadn't come up since Vamo's inception.
I still think it could possibly come down to something dumb, like the manufacturer exhausting its supply of wire and sourcing another batch that has a higher resistance.
Before you guys this was an issue that hadn't come up since Vamo's inception.
I still think it could possibly come down to something dumb, like the manufacturer exhausting its supply of wire and sourcing another batch that has a higher resistance.
Other than the fact that perhaps something is wrong with your vamo, I'm totally confused now. During your explanations, were you switching between dual coil and single coil cartomizers? Lower resistance carts are normally dual coil, while 3 ohm carts are normally single coil. Was this the case all this time?
This probably isn't a power thing because if both delivery devices are the "same resistance", then both have the same power requirements and will use the same amount of power. It's more likely a physical difference in construction of the devices that make up the apparent vapor differences. For an explanation of dual versus single coils, read THIS. It may explain why you experienced a cooler vape. I hope it doesn't confuse the issue any.
I own three vamos and they all act the same. Two of them look identical, while the third appears to have been made by a different manufacture... machining looks different, as does cosmetics. You're right, this hasn't come up before, but it could very well be that piggy's vamo is just whacked!
I'm a bit confused as well. We would need a strictly apples to apples comparison to know if the piggy's VAMO or something else is the troublemaker. One would need to use the exact same delivery device (not even the same brand with the same oHms) on two VAMOs using the same battery, battery spring and VAMO settings.
Nahoku & peraspera:
All my tests were done on single coil, non of us currently have a dual in our arsenal.
When comparing our vamos we used the same 183650 batt on both devices. The batt charge was reading 4.1v. We used a 1.9 ohm atty and a 1.8ohm carto for the comparison. Our settings were 8.0 watts for the atty and 7.5 for the carto. His vamo produced the amount of vapor and heat expected for those settings, while my vamo produced very little vapor on the same atty, while the same carto produced almost sufficent vapor but no heat. It was my own conclusion then, that the reason i was getting more vapor from the carto is because it inherently needs less power to produce vapor. It's also possible that if i was using a brand new atty we would have gotten more vapor even on mine. But we didn't run our tests on new ones. I believe i'm having the same issue as Steve K from steve vapes:
eGo (Vamo) APV Review - Advanced Features, Budget Friendly
All my tests were done on single coil, non of us currently have a dual in our arsenal.
When comparing our vamos we used the same 183650 batt on both devices. The batt charge was reading 4.1v. We used a 1.9 ohm atty and a 1.8ohm carto for the comparison. Our settings were 8.0 watts for the atty and 7.5 for the carto. His vamo produced the amount of vapor and heat expected for those settings, while my vamo produced very little vapor on the same atty, while the same carto produced almost sufficent vapor but no heat. It was my own conclusion then, that the reason i was getting more vapor from the carto is because it inherently needs less power to produce vapor. It's also possible that if i was using a brand new atty we would have gotten more vapor even on mine. But we didn't run our tests on new ones. I believe i'm having the same issue as Steve K from steve vapes:
eGo (Vamo) APV Review - Advanced Features, Budget Friendly
Wow, That's interesting!
That review is old enough, that I believe he had the original skinny spring in his V2. (dated Dec-19)
I am thinking he received a defective unit as did you, since this seems to be an uncommon occurance.
Thanks for the reply piggy! Seems you did some good troubleshooting. I gather you've contacted Exhale Vapors by now so I hope they can make things right for you! Let the board know. Good luck!
Yeah, AFAIK last Dec the skinny spring was replaced.
My first Vamo had one that Smoktech replaced for me.
That one only had issues with 18650's.
It wasn't strong enough.
I'm hoping Exhale will take care of you as well.
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haven't contacted exhale vapors yet. it's a long shot. i bought it at the end of feb. Also, it seems to be working fine on 2 batts. and who's to say the next one will be better, you never know with these chinese manufacturing. i think i might just keep it.
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I did an experiment. I happen to own one of those small voltmeters you attach to the PV. I don't know why I didn't think about doing this before.
When the Vamo is using a single battery, the meter reads about 6.1 volts. When I used stacked batteries, the meter reads whatever the stacked batteries add up to. For fully charged, the meter reads 7.8... maybe some loss there, and for not so fully charged, I got lower readings... 7.4, etc.
So, I guess we can safely assume that you'll see a higher peak volts using stacked batteries.
This is not to say you Vamo isn't whacked.
When the Vamo is using a single battery, the meter reads about 6.1 volts. When I used stacked batteries, the meter reads whatever the stacked batteries add up to. For fully charged, the meter reads 7.8... maybe some loss there, and for not so fully charged, I got lower readings... 7.4, etc.
So, I guess we can safely assume that you'll see a higher peak volts using stacked batteries.
This is not to say you Vamo isn't whacked.
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It would be interesting to hear from more Vamo users on this....
I have only metered the my output once.
Using a normal multimeter, I measured voltage @ the pos and neg coil terminals of an AGA and got around 4.7V using an 18350.
I can't remember the wattage settings, since I was just verifying the boost circuit was working correctly and it was.
I would try this again, but I need to get a new battery for my meter. (I stored it without turning it off
)Are you talking about one of the doodads that you put between the PV and juice delivery device that has a digital readout? If so, I'm pretty sure that Drew at nHaler told me that it wouldn't work right with PWM and maybe even the Kick and Can. However, I'm completely dimwitted where electronics are concerned so please double-check rather than taking my post as any sort of gospel.
Yah, it is one of those doodads. It won't work with PWM if the voltage or power setting is set too low. However, if you set the voltage or power to a high value, the pulsewidth widens and you can read the peak voltage. As for the kick, it won't read anything unless you also have a delivery device connected. The kick needs a load to operate.
I use the same Panasonic 650's @6v using a RDA with a 2.4ohm coil in my vamo all the time. The only difference I can tell between a single 650 and stacked 350's is the length of time before the drop occurs and the possibility of burning a digit or two if they decide to 'vent'.
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