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+1 From me on the MVP2 ... especially for moving out and about and stealth vaping at work. If I went to work with a Provari in my pocket, someone might ask if that was a provari in my pocket or if I was happy to see them.

I will get a Provari soon... for home... but, I love the small compactness and stealthness of my MVP.
 
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My initial take on this thread was a bit off. When you said high end, user friendly and repairable I assumed you were ready to spend some cash. Had I known that was not the case I would have recommended an MVP with some ProTanks.

The benefit of a rebuildable is the fact that it can be rebuilt cheaply. coils for a ProTank cost me $2.50 each. I can buy several feet of kanthal and a bag of cotton balls for a few bucks and rebuild many more coils than you could buy prebuilt ones for.

Stick with the MVP and the ProTanks/iClears. That seems to be about where you want to be right now.
 

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Oh I have no problem spending some coin but not if it's not convenient right now. If there was something better and as versatile as this I'd buy it. I thought if be spending in the $200 range but if the mech mods only difference is cheaper coils and not better performance then I will wait out and see what my vaping preferences are with the mvp2 setup and build a mod based on my findings.

What do you think?

I'm also not sure what the mech mods require as far as maintenance and building of parts or battery charging etc. I really like the idea of a plug in recharge as opposed to removing batteries and using a charger.
 

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Oh I have no problem spending some coin but not if it's not convenient right now. If there was something better and as versatile as this I'd buy it. I thought if be spending in the $200 range but if the mech mods only difference is cheaper coils and not better performance then I will wait out and see what my vaping preferences are with the mvp2 setup and build a mod based on my findings.

What do you think?

I'm also not sure what the mech mods require as far as maintenance and building of parts or battery charging etc. I really like the idea of a plug in recharge as opposed to removing batteries and using a charger.

Then by all means get an MVP. No batteries to remove and simple maintenance. I assumed you were looking to dive into something different, thus my initial post. The MVP with the PT or iClear seems to be your best bet.
 

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The benefit of a ProVari has nothing to do with the wicks. It has to do with reliability and repairability. That is why I recommended it to you initially. If that is not important to you then get the MVP. But once the internal battery goes bad and will not hold a charge that is the end. Nothing you can do about that except buy another one.

The wicks will be in the ProTanks or iClears that you buy. You can get replacement coils for them, apparently pretty cheap if you order from Fastech.
 

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So there are no benefits other than rebuilding the wicks?

rebuildable atties as apposed to bottom coil and top coil tanks is all just about ones preference

some people swear rba's and rda's give better taste/quality over buying prebuilt stock coils....it's all up to you...me I don't do rebuilding...I just don't have the time or patients for it...and am quite happy with my protanks and hypertanks...I like vivi novas (but as of yet haven't found one that won't leak) and am getting ready to try a cartotank....
 

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Oh I have no problem spending some coin but not if it's not convenient right now. If there was something better and as versatile as this I'd buy it. I thought if be spending in the $200 range but if the mech mods only difference is cheaper coils and not better performance then I will wait out and see what my vaping preferences are with the mvp2 setup and build a mod based on my findings.

What do you think?

I'm also not sure what the mech mods require as far as maintenance and building of parts or battery charging etc. I really like the idea of a plug in recharge as opposed to removing batteries and using a charger.

A mech mod is a tube for a battery.
A rebuildable is a tank where you put your own wire and wick instead of buying replacement coil/wick prefab atomizer heads all the time.
 

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Are there mechanical mods that allow for on the fly voltage/wattage adjustments?
I'm still trying to understand the benefit of these mech mods.

Not really just like they said more of a battery with a fire button. I think I might ne wrong though since i havent owned onr but from what ive SEEN no.

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Are there mechanical mods that allow for on the fly voltage/wattage adjustments?
I'm still trying to understand the benefit of these mech mods.

You can add a kick module to regulate a mech. The main advantage is their simplicity and lack of regulation. Simplicity is self explanatory, it is a simple device and can be maintained easily in the event of the zombie vaperocity. Lack of regulation allows you to draw the heck out of the battery, adventitious to certain builds you don't really need to worry about at this point. Also, they are old school Yo'.
 

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Mech mods (without the additional Kick or Kick 2 chip) will continuously push 3.7V until the batteries you're using begin to drain past the 3.7V mark, then you'll notice a small drop in performance. It happens even on the regulated side of things as well. The biggest difference between mechanical mods and regulated mods are the coils you're able to build and fire on them. Whereas both devices I posted a picture of - one has a 3.5 Amp limit and the other I believe is a 3.0 Amp limit - which means the lower the resistance of my coil - 0.9 Ohms to 0.1 Ohm will NOT fire if the Amp limiter is engaged. However on a mechanical mod - it doesn't care it just throws 3.7V at everything.

Now mechanical mods can have a Kick / Kick 2 installed in them at the sacrifice of battery size. The Kick / Kick 2 allows you to adjust WATTAGE OUTPUT to the coil you have on the device but again - BE CAREFUL! You may run into popped coils, blown batteries, fried liquids, burnt wicks, etc. If you need help on coil building - check the web - RiPTrippers is one of the best coil builders I can find. The OP said he wasn't an electrician - well... I don't think many of us are / were certified electricians but most of us, I can almost bet, build our coils or REBUILD our dead [INSERT MANUFACTURER HERE] atomizer heads. It's more cost effective and convenient for a lot of folks to rebuild rather than wait until that trusty coil we've had running for a month or so to finally pop and we need to go get a few of them, to find out NOBODY has them in stock. So you buy yourself a spool or 10 of various gauge Kanthal or Nichrome wire and dive right in. That's where the Ohm reader comes in handy.

But like most people have stated it's all in personal taste. I prefer electronic regulated mods - Nivel, ProVaris, DNA30D's, etc. Why? Because the devices above are ELECTRONIC cigarettes - so why not? If you're looking to get started, a good clone device - mechanical or otherwise - is a good start. If you're just wanting to try it - a Joy-E eGo Twist or a Kanger Evod VV with a Kanger Mini Pro Tank 2 is also a reasonable start. The latter being the least expensive just because the devices are relatively inexpensive and you don't NEED to purchase the wire, wick, tools, etc to rebuild. Both the Twist and Evod VV batteries are variable voltage which can be adjusted on the fly, but that's personal preference.

About the different wicks / wicking material - don't wrap yourself up into it too much. There are various wicks / wicking material out there. You have silica, ecowool, hemp fiber, stainless steel mesh (various grades), stainless steel cable, organic cotton, and porous ceramic. Stainless steel (both cable and mesh) and porous ceramic are primarily used in genesis style atomizers. Whereas silica, ecowool, hemp fiber, and organic are the prime choices for tanks and drippers. Same thing applies to the resistance wire - you really have a lot less choices there. You got Nichrome (various grades), Kanthal (various grades), sterling silver (less common than Nichrome and Kanthal), and of course some other various styles and types of resistance wires. The ONLY ones I would focus on would be either Nichrome or Kanthal - Preferring Kanthal over Nichrome. But again pay no mind to the wick and wire for now. You'll get there - trust us. You can worry about the wick and wire when you delve into rebuildables to keep your hands busy when the craving to pick up and light a burning analog is becoming the largest habit to break. The nicotine addiction will come and go - and quite rapidly if you're an active person - I started at 24mg and am now staring at 3mg - been vaping for a month too. But the habit of lighting up makes my hands twitchy and so I build a new coil, rewick it, and check improvements over the previous coil(s).
 
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Great post and thanks for the info! I've been watching RipTrippers on youtube all day lol.

I've been looking at stuff all day and it seems that the MVP2 is the best of the non-mech mods from what I can tell. If anyone wants to throw something at me that I'm not finding that is more expensive/whatever please do so. Making my order tonight!
 

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Great post and thanks for the info! I've been watching RipTrippers on youtube all day lol.

I've been looking at stuff all day and it seems that the MVP2 is the best of the non-mech mods from what I can tell. If anyone wants to throw something at me that I'm not finding that is more expensive/whatever please do so. Making my order tonight!

The MVP2 is the best bang for the buck in vaping batteries out there.
 
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