Vape Setup least likely to fail, for Me?

[JoBloGo]

Hi all, I'm trying to decide on a relatively unrisky setup. I'm pretty paranoid about battery safety (I'm unusually terrified of fire-related accidents). I'm trying to get a good idea of risk, and what setup would mitigate the most risk.

• I do not sub-ohm, the lowest I am likely to go is a 1.6 res clearomizer.
• i intend to supervise charging (no overnight charging, and always charging within my line of sight with random checks to see if battery is getting hot).

Here are the 2 set ups I'm looking at, and my thoughts:

itaste vv 3.0

• Regulated
• Passthrough means that power regulation is internal, rather than on the external charger. Mini usb prevents the use of a wrong charger.
• simple to use (no need for external batteries, battery charger etc...)
• having everything built in means that all elements are meant to work together (correct battery, protections, chips, etc...) no chance of choosing the wrong battery.
• I have only heard of one failure (which resulted in the battery puffing)
• con: no way to keep an eye on the battery itself (can't visually inspect the actual cell)
• con: not sure how this device is setup to vent

Sigelei zmax v3 + Nitecore intellicharger i2 +18350 efest red battery

• Regulated, quality, APV
• Multiple vent holes
• The battery charger used is a known quality product
• The battery is a known quality battery
• i can take the battery out to check it
• Puchasing a new battery is less expensive (meaning I am more likely to purchase a new battery every so often, rather than using the device until it stops working)
• con: more "equipment" needed to maintain a charged apv.
• con: apv is larger

I have also heard of batteries failing while they were being stored. How can I safely store batteries that are not being used? How likely is a battery to fail while being stored?

how often should I use new batteries (as older batteries are more likely to fail)?

I'd love to hear your opinions, what do you think is the least risky setup, what your thoughts are, or if you have an idea of a better one?

(Although you may have a less-risky unregulated mod, please understand that I'm not quite ready yet to try them. I'm mostly interested in hearing about regulated APVs.)

 

[daleron]

I do not sub-ohm, the lowest I am likely to go is a 1.6 res clearomizer.
i intend to supervise charging (no overnight charging, and always charging within my line of sight with random checks to see if battery is getting hot).


Having said this ^^^

I can see no problem with either one, just depends on what you want

As to battery storage, I've had the same question ... none of mine have failed so far

Welcome to ECF btw!

 

[JoBloGo]

Thank you daleron! I'm leaning towards the Sigelei, but would live hear about everyone's experiences.

Adorable puppy! Is she your's? I have a min-pin, she is one if my main considerations fir safe battery storage. I would be devastated if a battery failed while I wasn't home and injured her in any way.

 

[daleron]

Thank you daleron! I'm leaning towards the Sigelei, but would live hear about everyone's experiences.

Adorable puppy! Is she your's? I have a min-pin, she is one if my main considerations fir safe battery storage. I would be devastated if a battery failed while I wasn't home and injured her in any way.

Err, no. That's just a gif, I do have a female Yorkie tho', love her to death

I have several ZMax'es and love them, never had an itaste so can't comment on that one.

 

[JoBloGo]

I'm thinking maybe the Sigelei, that way, if I need to store the device for an extended period of time, I could safely dispose of the battery, and just store the APV sans battery.

Is there any fire risk for an APV without a battery? My thoughts would be that there would only be circuits and wires, and they would be "dead" without power going to it. But would there be anything else? I see that some APVs keep their settings when changing a battery, does that mean that there is another battery built in to keep the settings?

 

[daleron]

I'm thinking maybe the Sigelei, that way, if I need to store the device for an extended period of time, I could safely dispose of the battery, and just store the APV sans battery.

Is there any fire risk for an APV without a battery? My thoughts would be that there would only be circuits and wires, and they would be "dead" without power going to it. But would there be anything else? I see that some APVs keep their settings when changing a battery, does that mean that there is another battery built in to keep the settings?

I don't think so, think it just stays there due to no activity

 

[jstjoehere]

Either one one be fine for you. Most battery failures (overheating, swelling, ect) happen with mechanical mods and then only with over or misuse of the batteries. I always charge my batteries in an external charger so i can always have a fresh battery in my mod. even though it is capable of charging as well.

There is no risk if fire storing your mod without a battery in it.
Battery life is really unpredictable since it has so much to do with how well the battery is maintained, how the user uses the battery, and storage of it.

Basically when your battery is low dont keep using it recharge it. Once it is charged take it out of the charger and store it in a cool dry place where its not in direct sunlight or around any other heat source like in the cabinet above your cook top. Common sense and the batteries used for vaping are perfectly safe.

 

[erikbal]

I'd give a look at the MVP2. No external battery to charge, does all the same things the vv3 does with a much larger battery and the ability to charge things from it.

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[Warpigs]

Once you go Silver Bullet, you will never want anything else

 

[realsis]

I agree with above post mvp2 is a excellent mod.

 

[joesquid]

I think you are over thinking this. You are talking about regulated mods. The safety features are built into the mod. Do you worry as much about you cell phone or cordless drill? Take a close look at an MVP. Very solid with all the safety features. Not a better mod for the price. Not as clumsy as you think either.

 

[TheRac25]

if you are worried about battery safety and im not sure you should be, the lipo pack in the mvp is as safe as lithium gets

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Both are good choices. Hubby has the VVv3 and it's served him well for several months now. He just passed one on to my sister actually. We both have the Provari now, which is also a good choice if price isn't an issue. They were built with safety in mind. We use AW IMR batteries which have a great reputation and the Nitecore i2 charger.

 

[flybykite]

Get yourself a provari and 4 sony vtc5 batteries (overkill I know) and you will be done shopping for a very long time. I'd recommend that battery because you can use it on anything safely and gives you room to play with other mods in the future without considering a new battery. I. And if you somehow managed to get one of these to vent (unlikely) they just fizzle a bit. Won't get fire hot like cheaper chemistry batteries.
If the provari is out of your price range, the vamo is a decent device. Would not recommend getting a built in battery unit though. Manufacturers generally sacrifice top quality for profit and once the battery dies, well, a whole new unit. Not to mention needing to charge them individually instead of plugging in a new batt. And heading out the door.

 

[JoBloGo]

Thanks so much for all the great opinions. Lots of different persepctives. I wish that the Provari was more in my price-range (maybe if I can get to Vapecan, hopefully they will have some show specials). I do like the idea of a regulated mod with a removable battery, so that I can replace a spent battery on the go.

 

[Warpigs]

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[Blackboar]

As others have said, most regulated mods have great built in safety features, so as long as you use a reliable IMR battery like an AW, MNKE, or even Efest batteries, you're going to be ok. In terms of battery storage, you can get the plastic battery boxes (usually about $1.25 for a case that holds 2 batteries) designed to store your size battery and just keep them in a drawer. They very safe to store that way.

If you want to not even worry about batteries and just get a reliable device, the Innokin VV or MVP are really great mods. Of the 2, the MVP is going to give you superior vape time, but is larger. The VV, will still give you good vape time and should last you most of the day. Both are charged with a mini USB. I'd personally recommend you get both eventually, because while one charges, you can take the other one out. But the MVP should be the first of the 2 you get.

If you do get a Provari, it's a great mod! It's my personal choice for a regulated mod. It does take time to get use to the one button that controls everything, though. And of course the price is more than 3 MPV's. But it is definitely reliable.

 

[Ladiekali]

FYI
The vv3 will stop charging after its charged.
I prefer my mvp2 over the vv3.

They work almost identical.
Eta the mvp2 lasts me more than two days when used exclusively.
Works as a pass thru, i use my cell phone car charger when on the go.
Www.101vapes.com has a good price

My main device are my provaris,
But, i also enjoy my innokin svd. What i really like is that its telescopic and i use many different sized batteries.
Www.desertvapes.com has good price

I buy battery cases for mine, waterproof.
Like these
WaterProof Battery Box for 18650, 18500, 18350 batteries

My order of favorite
Provari,
Svd,
Mvp2,
Coolfire2
Vv3

See whats at the bottom?
It is still fine and i do use it sometimes.

 

[Nacon]

the simplest and most budget friendly good vaping reliable combo would easily be a kanger aerotank mega with an MVP 2.0 use lower ohms on the aerotank atomizers to really get good use of the MVP 2.0. this setup is both budget friendly, and reliable. on top of that, it's really simple. can't go wrong.

 

[Necrotic]

When I was using regulated devices I loved my iTaste VTR. The thing is extremely solid. Uses only 18650 batteries. Only con I had with it is that it is quite heavy... with a kayfun and everything on it it weighs about a pound. Its a very solid unit and difficult to break. Buttons on it are nice and responsive and I like the dial on the top to be able to adjust the watts and volts to whatever you want. I do not recommend the vamo because of the bad experience I have had with it. The MVP is great my buddy has one and loves it. The only problem I see with it is if the battery dies you have to buy another, whereas with a VTR if the battery dies just pop another in and go. That's really the pros and cons of the built in and removable battery devices.