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That's good. Better then people I know. Usually the learning curve on wrapping is a little longer. You can see that clearly in the tools and tips and tricks videos and the hundreds or thousands of views each get. Even the experts over lap in simple single strand claptons on occasion.



Actually your eloquence in post #2 is where "mindless" came from. But someone of your stature should know that already.




Okay, so this device is obviously not for you. Why the need to post condescending remarks? Why not skip over the thread? Hell simply inserting pre wrapped coils is intimidating to a lot of people let alone twisting their own wire up and then building a coil. Perhaps you have forgotten.

There is obviously a demand for a device like this or else they wouldn't be sold out and back ordered.
Yeah sometimes I forget what i say. Apologies. My head is a jungle. Working on an east coast schedule living on the west coast right now, I get the occasional missed thought.
Claptons are kinda mindless work.

But this device just kinda bothers me because it creates a perception that a Clapton/fused Clapton is hard to make, so if you're just getting started you NEED to buy this or else you won't be able to make them.

It's like, before I used a swivel, before I even bought wire by the spool, it makes it look like a necessity that you buy spools of wire (my old local B&M that closed sold 5' lengths of N80 & KA1 for $2), and that making a wrap on your own is a hard thing.
That's why I don't like this device, and have remarks against it. It's not personally directed towards you, I just feel like holding a spool and bending the other end of the core wire(s) thru a ball bearing swivel is way easier and quicker to set up and make. This takes the creative element out of wrapping wire. And I don't think it could wrap a paraclapton. Screwing up is part of the learning process.

Side note, the first drill I learned on was archaic, like 1980-1990~ and the chuck was all screwed up. I don't use a fancy cordless or an expensive Li-On drill, just a $20-25 corded "Drill Master," and hold the spool between my fingers.
 
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Yeah sometimes I forget what i say. Apologies. My head is a jungle. Working on an east coast schedule living on the west coast right now, I get the occasional missed thought.
Claptons are kinda mindless work.

But this device just kinda bothers me because it creates a perception that a Clapton/fused Clapton is hard to make, so if you're just getting started you NEED to buy this or else you won't be able to make them.

It's like, before I used a swivel, before I even bought wire by the spool, it makes it look like a necessity that you buy spools of wire (my old local B&M that closed sold 5' lengths of N80 & KA1 for $2), and that making a wrap on your own is a hard thing.
That's why I don't like this device, and have remarks against it. It's not personally directed towards you, I just feel like holding a spool and bending the other end of the core wire(s) thru a ball bearing swivel is way easier and quicker to set up and make. This takes the creative element out of wrapping wire. And I don't think it could wrap a paraclapton. Screwing up is part of the learning process.

Side note, the first drill I learned on was archaic, like 1980-1990~ and the chuck was all screwed up. I don't use a fancy cordless or an expensive Li-On drill, just a $20-25 corded "Drill Master," and hold the spool between my fingers.

Apology accepted.

I don't think the device is being advertised as the only way or even the best way to make claptons, but rather as an alternative way.

5 foot lengths for $2 seems ridiculously expensive. I buy 100 foot spools for $8 at my local B&M.

Personally my typical build is a dual core fused Clapton paralleled with 22 or 24g N80 single strand. I've vaped on and built the more fancier builds like staple staggered fused Clapton's, stapled helix, flat alien, alien etc etc. I don't find the production and flavor to be significantly different so I stick with a simple fused Clapton and I like the staged heating affect of paralleling with some nichrome.

So the device appealed to me to do extremely long runs of fused claptons that I could pre cut and store in various locations. The device is cheap enough that it doesn't really matter - hell I think we all spend $20+ on lunch every now and then.
 
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Apology accepted.

I don't think the device is being advertised as the only way or even the best way to make claptons, but rather as an alternative way.

5 foot lengths for $2 seems ridiculously expensive. I buy 100 foot spools for $8 at my local B&M.

Personally my typical build is a dual core fused Clapton paralleled with 22 or 24g N80 single strand. I've vaped on and built the more fancier builds like staple staggered fused Clapton's, stapled helix, flat alien, alien etc etc. I don't find the production and flavor to be significantly different so I stick with a simple fused Clapton and I like the staged heating affect of paralleling with some nichrome.

So the device appealed to me to do extremely long runs of fused claptons that I could pre cut and store in various locations. The device is cheap enough that it doesn't really matter - hell I think we all spend $20+ on lunch every now and then.
Yeah that was when I first got into building, and at $4 who cares. I have a drawer full of spools now, ranging from 18g-44g, .3, .4, & .5(x.1mm), & .2x.2 square wire.
So back then when I first started building I didn't really care about spending a few bucks to practice with. My drill has an auto speed-lock button I use to do long lengths of Claptons/fused Claptons. It's not too hard to do a 5-10' length when the drill keeps going & I have clippers in my hand ready to cut when I'm done.
But I find doing 20"~ at a time for fused Claptons and coiling up the wire works best for me. I don't see the need to make 5-6' of a fused Clapton, unless it's like a 36-40/44g that I'd be using to re-Clapton a wire with., but I don't think that thing could handle wires so thin.
 

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Saw this thread yesterday and thought I could try to make my own.
Earlier I did a holder with some resistance for the spool that had a hole where the wire came through.

It has been working good enough for my simple claptons. Previously I held the wire with fingers but skin on my fingers didn´t like that so much.

Yesterday I bought a few of those clamps that you see in the video.
I made a holder inside the handles for the wire spool. Wire just feeds through the clamp body and in to the "clamping pads". So no need for a separate spool holder.

I´ll take a picture tonight if anyone is interested.

I have to say it worked really well and it came a good tight wrap.
Haven´t tested with parallel cores or anything special, just single core.
 

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Saw this thread yesterday and thought I could try to make my own.
Earlier I did a holder with some resistance for the spool that had a hole where the wire came through.

It has been working good enough for my simple claptons. Previously I held the wire with fingers but skin on my fingers didn´t like that so much.

Yesterday I bought a few of those clamps that you see in the video.
I made a holder inside the handles for the wire spool. Wire just feeds through the clamp body and in to the "clamping pads". So no need for a separate spool holder.

I´ll take a picture tonight if anyone is interested.

I have to say it worked really well and it came a good tight wrap.
Haven´t tested with parallel cores or anything special, just single core.

Please do post a picture!
 

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Here it is :)

I have to say I had a lot of problems yesterday with overlapping.
The yellow pads wore out already quite much. I think those pads should be something harder material.
there are some nuts and plastic hose where the spool is attached. With the wingnut I can adjust the resistance of the spool.
I´ll continue to test it out and share if I can come up with some improvements.

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Btw, there is a new version already from those guys,
 

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Here it is :)

I have to say I had a lot of problems yesterday with overlapping.
The yellow pads wore out already quite much. I think those pads should be something harder material.
there are some nuts and plastic hose where the spool is attached. With the wingnut I can adjust the resistance of the spool.
I´ll continue to test it out and share if I can come up with some improvements.

20160204_065057-1024x576.jpg

20160204_065017-1024x576.jpg

20160204_064937-1024x576.jpg


Btw, there is a new version already from those guys,


The new version appears to have two clamps. I wonder if they were/are having problems with the wire cutting a groove and wearing the clamp out. That is something I did not really consider.

Thank you for the pictures. I like seeing the creativity in others. Please continue to post them as you modify.
 
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