vaping 60mg help- and also 'hello' from the newbie

[Deadite]

I'd like to add that nicotine in 40mg and higher can be fatal in adults.
You should look
here, http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/nicotine.htm#PartTitle:7.%20TOXICOLOGY
here, Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and here. http://hrcak.srce.hr/file/210
Those are just a few examples I found with a quick Google search.

I have a bottle of 54mg and I had to have gotten some on my fingers while mixing because I was sick for a week after mixing my first batch with migraine level headaches, joint pain, and nausea. I know that ingesting it via vapor you'll be exposed to less but from time to time your e-cigarette is going to leak and you'll get it on your fingers or in your mouth.

Just be aware of the danger your poking, and be careful.
Also be aware that others will use you getting poisoned or killed as a reason to ban the use of e-cigarettes.

 

[Thulium]

If 40mg of nicotine is deadly to adults, then one teaspoon of 1% nicotine e-liquid would be fatal. There's an average of 16.3mg of nicotine in one cigarette. There have been THOUSANDS of small children who have eaten cigarettes and gotten rather sick, but none have died--how do you explain this?

Answer: 1mg/KG is a potentially lethal dose ONLY if you absorb that much into your bloodstream faster than your body can reject it. A milliliter of 6% e-liquid would only be lethal if you can manage to swallow it whole and NOT puke up the majority within an hour--which is nearly impossible, even if with the help of Chantix trying to commit suicide.

 

[Deadite]

I'm not a doctor nor am I an expert in poisons I'm only citing what the experts are stating.
Therefor I can’t explain it, but they can.

 

[Thulium]

I'm not a doctor nor am I an expert in poisons I'm only citing what the experts are stating.
Therefor I can’t explain it, but they can.

Correction: You are citing what the anti-nicotine prohibitionists "experts" (who are paid by pharmaceutical companies) are stating. You should ask them how many 21mg patches it takes to kill a 100kg person? How many 1.63% nicotine cigarettes? How many pieces of 4mg gum?

 

[joemazda585]

ok, i know i am the newbie and shouldnt be lashing out at the veterans, but i must say that you guys are idiots.

i AM vaping 54mg as we speak. i am not trolling because if i remember right i asked not to comment on the deadly dosage myths. oh wait, theres a quote function:

well i guess i should be typing as a ghost right now,...

after the info i received from this forum, and much consideration, i have been vaping the 54mg mix all evening. regular heartbeat, no headache, no cold sweats, no nausea, and no 911 calls.

i am aware of the 60mg dosage death, but i am also aware that it means 60mg at one time in your body. i go through 1ml per day, much less than other people here. i take about 80 puffs per day, approx 10 puffs per hour, and with a 54ml mix that is about 7mg per hour. nowhere near a deadly dosage. how much nic is in nic gum? 4mg per hour? yes i have tried it. it did absolutely nothing. and yes i held it in my cheek and moved it every few mins.

i saw the episode of 1000 ways to die, but it might have been a different episode. this one said the girl put 100 patches on after intercourse and died. the weakest patch is 2mg, and this was still about 199.5mg at once stronger than what i am doing.

saying i will die from this is illogical. enough with the death comments. i am living proof that you are wrong. i came here for help, so thank you to those who have contributed their links and knowledge of stronger batteries and vapor delivery.

SOOOO... any more links to recommended batts and attys? i have looked at all the links that have been posted so far, and i think i will stick with a fixed voltage. only because i have a decent knowledge of electronics and variable voltage regulators are somewhat unreliable cmpared to a fixed voltage item. i may be wrong regarding the e-cig variable voltage. i wont decide which setup to get until i am actually ready to purchase. i just want to lay all my options out on the table.

so we have already determined that my underperforming equipment is the cause of needing 54mg. so i ask again, please refrain from the death comments.

unless you can tell me that your puff contains less than .675mg of nic then stay out of this posting. unless you can prove that you are taking in less nicotene than me per hit then stay out of this topic.

i have been a B&M smoker, average 3 per day, and saying i am lying is idiotic. do you want pictures? video? reciepts? do you want said items for my 48mg flavored juice and 60mg unflavored bottle?

i am here looking for better equipment, but i am starting to feel like i should have kept my mouth shut about the strength.

 

[joemazda585]

also, everyone i have known who has tried e-cigs (not the mods, the "crappy" ones like the standard 510 starter kit) has said they do nothing and that person goes back to smoking. if they knew what i have learned then they would probably be vapers right now. people dont know that a weak voltage is the problem. i have been buying 48mg due to my weak battery, and other people who tried my first 7-eleven e-cig were unimpressed.

so everyone getting high from thier 24mg mods must have forgotten what its like knowing nothing of e-cigs and wanting to quit smoking.

 

[NicLiq]

Vaping 48+ mg of 1 ml of nicotine is going to cause some arterial constriction.

A long term smoker most likely has some narrowing in their arteries.

Combine the two and what can you get?

I don't care if the OP is a troll, this thread is here and people read it.

 

[joemazda585]

and thank you Thulium for having more brains than most of these people. (and the people who have actually helped me)

 

[joemazda585]

48mg (or my current 54mg) per day, assumning i am only using 1ml per day, is less wearing on your body than other people's 24mg @3ml per day. i have also stated that before.

i have already posted the math showing that each puff, and each hour, and each day, i take in less nic than others here @ 24mg. so unless someone has the math proving me wrong then stay out of the thread regarding health issues of high mg juice.

 

[joemazda585]

anymore comments on the health issues and i will be signing off permanently. if you want to know the results and keep me here, then show me the math that proves me wrong.

 

[ksmith]

and thank you Thulium for having more brains than most of these people. (and the people who have actually helped me)

Joe, I think that saying that the people that are concerned about the effects of such a high strength of nicotine on you are lacking in brains is a little harse. I have a medical background and could shed some light on this, but I don't think you'd really want to hear it. And furthermore if Thulium would take an anatomy and physiology class, I think he would re-think his statements.

 

[NicLiq]

Would you be willing to consider that the elusive feeling you're missing might be the effects from carbon monoxide, not nicotine?

 

[GIMike]

I vaped 36 mg for quite awhile. That got me pretty woozy most of the time. I now vape 24 mg. I'm afraid I have to agree with the others. 60 mg is suicide. Yeah, you could probably rinse your mouth with gasonline and not having any problems. But try accidentally swallowing a mouthful and see what happens...

 

[joemazda585]

i understand the effects of nicotine on the body, both long term and short term, and the effects during nic absorbtion. one puff of a B&M, or finishing off the entire B&M, contains much more nic than my 54mg juice.

as far as comparing my 54mg to your 24mg, i have already shown what my per-puff intake is. so lets look at a 24mg puff from a mod-

with a high voltage e-cig, approx how many puffs are taken in a day? using 3ml per day

 

[joemazda585]

i will do the math for you guys, if nobody here will do it.

 

[joemazda585]

i am now willing to stay here through this because all of you are commenting on how bad this is, but you dont realize that you are doing worse to your bodies.

and saying that the risk is much worse incase of a spill is nonsense when a lot of you have these 60mg bottles to mix yourself.

and if i accidentally swallow a mouthful of 60mg and die, i will say hello to the other idiot in heaven who accidentally swallowed a mouthfull of gasoline. because it happens so often.

 

[Sdh]

hello all-

i have been smoke free for about 8 months now, and very satisfied with my eGo-T. i started with the 7-eleven e-cig (which vaped good but was weak) and progressed to the standard 510. it was still too weak in the vapor production so i was advised to try the tank system.

my problem is i had smoked Black-n' mild (mini cigar) for about 12 years, inhaling, and the usual mixes arent strong enough for me. i have been researching all types of info since i started e-cigs and feel pretty confident with my knowledge. i have been using 48mg juice the past 4 or 5 months, and it does give me a slight buzz sometimes. i just received my latest order of juice, in which i also ordered a 60mg unflavored mixing juice. i am planning to use this 50/50 with my 48mg liquid, but straight when i want a stronger mix.

i know that 60mg mix is lethal if i drink a mL, but would vaping it straight be harmful? realistically thinking- 36mg gives me no feeling, 48 works sometimes, so 60mg should work good but still be safe right?

-Joe

Honestly I think your question has been answered on this forum. You were asking about peoples thoughts on safety. People's personal experience in vaping should suffice. If you want stats I am sure you can google that.

One has to realize the vaping experience is not the same as smoking. You could do a experiment and buy a kit to test your nicotine levels. Other than that good luck on your journey.

 

[joemazda585]

i do agree that the feeling which is lacking is directly related to the carbon monoxide. but the nic feeling is basically a substitute to keep me from desiring a regular cigarette.

also, you are correct. my original question has been answered. and i determined that my equipment is not good. so the NEW question that i have asked multiple times is regarding the equipment so i can step down to a 24mg juice.

 

[LadyLynx]

I think all the excess nicotine is making you cranky! Calm down brother, maybe you are making it work for now, but as said that liquid can be dangerous. What if you DO accidentally spill that bottle all over your skin? Squirt it in your eye? drop it on a cat?


I don't see how it could be worth it. You've obviously been looking for advice and here you are. Do you trust you yourself only or the thousands of veterans on this site? hrm

Buzz is good I hear, Box Mods, I like my 3.7v NoEgo but it's probably too weak for you...I find direct dripping more satisfying.

 

[zoiDman]

yes, 100 percent serious. and i have been using 48mg for months, along with a friend of mine. he is perfectly happy with 48mg. i am halfway satisfied with it.

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How many ml of 48mg do you vape every day?