vaping above 50 watts

[Tonkpils]

You made me think a little, I have to concede: I do have an attitude towards two kinds of posts on ECF:
1. Posts proclaiming that only authentic hardware is really suitable for vaping: childishly elitistic opinion, which can affect people with limited income and make them to spend much more than really needed.
2. Posts proclaiming that high-wattage vaping is the best way to vape. I am pretty sure it is unhealthy way to vape, and while anybody has right to vape in any way anybody likes, I do not want ECF to become a place for propaganda of high-voltage vaping.

Point two, without proof, is it not propaganda within itself?

 

[herb]

I think it comes down, as always, to personal preference. My kids got me into vaping and even they, with a couple of years vaping, can't handle the wattages I prefer now. I'm use my Atlantis at about 40watts.

I have a Sigelei 150 as well that I drip at about 70 watts in a derringer with a .2 build.

It's just what I prefer. Of course, I also like my 1.6 Nautilus at around 12 watts for certain flavors.

I say do what you like as long as it isn't hurting you. I have yet to see any evidence that higher wattages are harmful. If I'm wrong, I will change.

That time will come but not in the near future , it's going to take years but everybody will find out eventually . Luckily for me i get the best flavor from lower wattage vaping and don't like any of the subtanks , to each their own.

 

[Rixsta]

2. Posts proclaiming that high-wattage vaping is the best way to vape. I am pretty sure it is unhealthy way to vape, and while anybody has right to vape in any way anybody likes, I do not want ECF to become a place for propaganda of high-voltage vaping.

There is no medical proof that vaping at a higher wattage is more unhealthy, lower the ohms, higher the wattage, I vape this way because of the flavour and it gives me a better sensation, vaping sub ohm was what got me completely off the cigarettes and as long as you have some knowledge and a safe battery mod, you'll be fine, so will this forum.

 

[Alien Traveler]

There is no medical proof that vaping at a higher wattage is more unhealthy, lower the ohms, higher the wattage, I vape this way because of the flavour and it gives me a better sensation, vaping sub ohm was what got me completely off the cigarettes and as long as you have some knowledge and a safe battery mod, you'll be fine, so will this forum.

You are right. There is no medical proof. There is not a single piece of research on high wattage vaping. So, it is matter of belief. You believe it is harmless, I believe it is harmful. We cannot even argue - we cannot prove our believes. The only thing we can do as a true believers is to proclaim our beliefs. Missionary work, you know...

 

[DaveSignal]

Back on topic, OP you need to lung-hit that thing. This isn't tootle puffing at those watts. Really best for chuff-style caps, but if your RTA only takes 510 tips, you might like a friction-fit wide-bore tip like those from cherryvapes or vapetasia.

 

[Rixsta]

You are right. There is no medical proof. There is not a single piece of research on high wattage vaping. So, it is matter of belief. You believe it is harmless, I believe it is harmful. We cannot even argue - we cannot prove our believes. The only thing we can do as a true believers is to proclaim our beliefs. Missionary work, you know...

Ha, cool, I can agree with that..all good

@OP, Is it still hot with the drip top open, the V2 has an afc on the drip tip doesn't it. Some tanks just vape hotter than others..

 

[puddinman]

That time will come but not in the near future , it's going to take years but everybody will find out eventually . Luckily for me i get the best flavor from lower wattage vaping and don't like any of the subtanks , to each their own.

Perhaps. But is this something you think because of some evidence you've seen or just a feeling? I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between a higher wattage and a lower wattage as far as physical and chemical characteristics of the vapor. I can imagine that higher wattage (and therefor temperature) may lead to breakdown or production of certain compounds but that's just a guess. In any case, I can't see how it would be worse than actual combustion which is a much higher temperature and I would guess that the temperature range involved in vaporization actually results in far less production of hazardous compounds than combustion. I'd like to see more research in this area, of course. And in medical vaporization studies of other substances, this has indeed been found to be the case.

TL; DR: I realize there maybe some risk, but I would think those risks are statistically about the same along the range of temps/wattages used in vaporization.

 

[bman1977]

OP, its time to put that tootle puffing boy to bed and let the subohm man come out. Delrin tip, lots of airflow and hit it like a champ. Good luck.

 

[tj99959]

so i received my aspire atlantis 2 and tryed using the 0.3 ohm coil, aspire suggests 70-80 watts so i gave it a try and even at only 55 to 60 watts the tip gets so hot it burns my lips, how do you guys and gals smoke on higher wattages and cope with the extremely hot tip? or am i just being a baby lol

Now you know one of the reasons why I don't!

'course, I never did figure out how folks could use those gas station e-cigs without a drip tip.

 

[herb]

Perhaps. But is this something you think because of some evidence you've seen or just a feeling? I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between a higher wattage and a lower wattage as far as physical and chemical characteristics of the vapor. I can imagine that higher wattage (and therefor temperature) may lead to breakdown or production of certain compounds but that's just a guess. In any case, I can't see how it would be worse than actual combustion which is a much higher temperature and I would guess that the temperature range involved in vaporization actually results in far less production of hazardous compounds than combustion. I'd like to see more research in this area, of course. And in medical vaporization studies of other substances, this has indeed been found to be the case.

TL; DR: I realize there maybe some risk, but I would think those risks are statistically about the same along the range of temps/wattages used in vaporization.

Never understood why people compare the effects to combustion , if your not using real cigs anymore who cares about combustion. This should be about if it's more dangerous than vaping at lower wattages .

That will come out in time of course but i have tried sub ohm with many different builds and tanks and to me sub ohm ing always mutes the flavor , thats why i don't do it.

 

[edyle]

so i received my aspire atlantis 2 and tryed using the 0.3 ohm coil, aspire suggests 70-80 watts so i gave it a try and even at only 55 to 60 watts the tip gets so hot it burns my lips, how do you guys and gals smoke on higher wattages and cope with the extremely hot tip? or am i just being a baby lol

the wattage is just a suggestion.
The actual sweet spot for any setup depends on a lot of things: eliquid, wicking, airflow, wire gauge, and whether you chain vape of just take 1 vape a minute also makes a difference

 

[tj99959]

The OP really isn't even talking about sub ohm per-say, his problem is heat transfer.

 

[motordude]

I'm starting to think i need to sub-ohm.

I am a rebel, and nonconformist. Then I can spread evil propaganda.​

 

[englishmick]

I hope you understood it as a joke

I wish you would put the smiley face on the first time. The candle flame set fire to my nose hairs when I was dripping the wax onto my lips, and now my drip tip is clogged with wax. It was a scented candle too.

 

[KingOhms]

Delrin chuff cap. Most local B&Ms carry them and they make a world of difference for airflow and not collecting heat that makes it to your lips.

 

[hashtag]

It's all about how much air you are pulling through to keep it cool. 60-65 watts seems to be the sweet spot for most with the Atlantis 2 but you need to put some power into your puff. If you aren't sucking hard enough it won't keep it cool enough, if you pull the air through at a hard steady pace it shouldn't heat the tip much at all.

 

[hashtag]

Back on topic, OP you need to lung-hit that thing. This isn't tootle puffing at those watts. Really best for chuff-style caps, but if your RTA only takes 510 tips, you might like a friction-fit wide-bore tip like those from cherryvapes or vapetasia.

It uses a proprietary tip that isn't easily swapped out. You have to order a special adapter to change the Atlantis 2 tip. The tip it comes with has is really wide though and offers plenty of airflow, even has airflow holes on the tip to add extra cooling.

 

[coolerat]

so i received my aspire atlantis 2 and tryed using the 0.3 ohm coil, aspire suggests 70-80 watts so i gave it a try and even at only 55 to 60 watts the tip gets so hot it burns my lips, how do you guys and gals smoke on higher wattages and cope with the extremely hot tip? or am i just being a baby lol

I'm only so-so a fan of the Atlantis in general and the .3's not at all.

The .5's are pleasent and the 1's maybe just the ticket.

I use a different style tank, an Orchid, and it uses cooling fins on top and I use a ceramic DT. At 30-40w and .7ishΩ with a hearty pull to keep the air moving I wonder how people can stan the hot vapor of Kayfuns and Nautilus's.

 

[Monotremata]

I use a different style tank, an Orchid, and it uses cooling fins on top and I use a ceramic DT. At 30-40w and .7ishΩ with a hearty pull to keep the air moving I wonder how people can stan the hot vapor of Kayfuns and Nautilus's.

I dont think theres any way to make a Kayfun vape that high. My Kayfun 4s pop coils at 30w on my Sigelei Mini. Forgot I had it set that high after cleaning the coil in my Derringer and instantly popped the coil. Wrapped a new one, and like an idiot forgot to turn it back down and popped the brand new coil right away too.
Maybe with the PEEK insulator that comes with the Subohm kit you can, but definitely not with the stock one.

 

[coolerat]

No not like that.

Kayfuns don't flow enough air to keep a canary alive.

I meant the vape is hotter on a Kayfun then on my Orchid.

I like an airy and cool vape full of flavor. A good vape to me is like a kiss from a beautiful woman, or man if thats what others are into. A Kayfun is like getting licked by a St. Benard, all wet and sloppy.

However the Kayfun V4 is one bad*** looking tank. Currently putting better decks under my Kayfuns. Silverplay is good but maybe alittle to airy for me. Next I'm gonna try an older orchid with the threaded base.