Vaping and children

[powley]

Hi gang! I'm new to ECF but I already know alot about it from my hubby. So I figured I better sign up so I can be in the action too

Anyway, this is my very first post and decided I should be a good mom and ask you guys about how you handle vaping with your kids. We have a 7 year old that asks ALOT of questions. She already wants to vape when she grows up. I've been telling her the obvious, any other suggestions? She loves the idea of the flavors which wasn't an issue when we smoked analogs. She's at the age that school teaches them that cigarettes are drugs. They come home thinking their parents are very bad people. I guess that's a different forum all together lol!

Also, what do we know about the safety of vaping around our kids? We never smoked in the house with them, but long car rides would have us hanging out the windows So I'm hoping vaping in the car isn't something to feel guilty about. I am convinced vaping is safer but is it 100%?

Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions!!

 

[hankbizzo5]

first off welcome to ecf. Well i had my nephews ask similar things and i had to explain to them that it is not a good idea to use anything like a cigarette or a pv. Also i had explain to them i use it as a better way to quit cigarettes but let them know it is still not safe for the fact nicotine or anything inhaled is not natural or safe . This is nephews so i do understand you will have to get deeper into it with your kids. As far as the second hand you should treat it as a smoke i do not think it has been studied enough to really know the effects and there could still be traces of nicotine or other things in the vapor.

 

[quittin4mykids]

I was a bad mom- I smoked in my home- I PV in my home- I never smoked with the windows up in the truck- BUT, I DID smoke- I have 4 kids- I homeschool and run a small farm- If everything on it wants to live, they try to not get between me and my caffine and nicotine.


as far as what I told my kids- That its poison- that its nicotine, and that its adicitive- that its not good for you, but its NOT bad for you- and that if they wanted nicotine, they needed to eat potatoes, jalapino's, tomatoes, and eggplants.

Of course, I also dont let my kids drink alot of soda- or any for that matter- one sprite or rootbeer a week is my limit on them, and I dont bring alot of sweets in the house.

I cant afford to keep 4 kids in junk food- and I want them to be more healthy than I am. Basicly, I just tell them- DOnt cuss, dont smoke, dont lie- and hope I get it right.

 

[powley]

Oh, wow, so you still think it's not safe second hand? I thought that was part of the benefits.

That's what sucks that they haven't just put it through the right testing already. Excuse my ignorance if they have done some.

Also, it's very hard to just tell your kids its poison. That would send my girls into an emotional breakdown. They don't want mommy and daddy to do drugs or take poison! I don't think I'll use that line, but I agree and do tell them its still bad but its a better way to quitting!

Thanks for the posts....keep um coming

 

[Ande]

My first is still on the way, so I'm not sure what the protocol will be, but here are some thoughts.

Driving too long without a break is hard on your concentration, and proven to increase your chances of an accident. If you're driving long distances, whether you smoke or vape, take a break and get out of the car every now and then to do it.

Talking to the kids- let them know about smoking: It's very bad for you, but very addictive. Some people successfully quit nicotine entirely (my wife did, years ago) but some are unable to (or unwilling to.) Since smoking is SO bad for you, vaping is a much better alternative. But not-vaping, in many people's eyes, would be better still.

I'm gonna get flack for saying this, but life isn't safe. I'd probably rather that my kid grew up to have some unhealthy habits than that he grew up to be a sanctimonious self-righteous know-it-all of an anti-smoker. I hope he'll never smoke the way I did. I wouldn't especially mind if he smoked the way my wife did. (Moderately, through her college years, quit age 23.)

Smoking is a bad risk, and one it's hard to let go of. I really do wish I had never started. But the idea that we can live risk free, and legislate and regulate risks out of our lives, is silly, false, and dangerous.

There are health risks everywhere, in our processed foods, in our fatness, in our modes of transportation, in sex and in celibacy...we try to make good choices about them, but there ARE risks.

One problem with the whole modern concept of health services is that it's built on the idea of eliminating risk rather than acknowledging and evaluating risk.

(On a non-vaping note, planning a birth makes you think a LOT about the flaws in medical systems.)

Best,
Ande

 

[powley]

Congrats on your first, Ande! Its a wonderful thing. Enjoy the early years because they grow up fast. I have 2 girls and they give me a run for my money every day! Hence mommy still needing her nicotine and "vape breaks".

I agree with some of your thoughts there, but we should still try to prevent the risks we can! Nobody's perfect, but when it comes to kids, our mistakes shouldn't become theirs

 

[hairball]

To the OP, tell her that it's a new cigarette that you're trying out and that it's just as bad as the paper kind. Hopefully it will deter her from it. Keep everything under lock and key if she's that curious about it. Hopefully with age will come some common sense and then she'll understand better. I remember mine all too well at that age....LOL. I'm sure her curiosity will pass with some time. This is new to her also so naturally she wants to know about it.

 

[quittin4mykids]

I agree ande - I know there are risks to walking out the door in the morning- which is why my kids have the life they do- We are in the country and they have lots of freedoms- Imagine Tom Sawyer and Old Yeller- My kids are pretty much that. LOL (but no cell phones or internet or game stations LOL)

Around here, there are differnt poisons- animal meds that are poisonous to us but we give the animals and then eat said animals later- Like Pennicillian- EVERYONE in my family is alergic to it- me, hubby and all 4 kids- THEY know this- we all know this- YET, we have bottles of it here and everyone over the age of 5 is able to give it in shot form to an animal.

, fertilizer that are poisonous to us, but we touch and put on the plants, Pest Poison, ant poison, hydrolic oil, transmission fluid, antifreeze, we have it all-

and every kid I have works along side us, so they are well versed in what goes where- and not to drink the gas for the chainsaw.
I tell them that pinesol is poison- so the 3 year old doesnt help clean with it, instead he gets a wet rag and wipes down after someone else mops or wipes down stuff. I tell them we can clean with it, but not drink it.

Its a word game yes, but here its got a different meaning that it would in most folks houses-
So, I can understand why you wouldnt use the word, here its just easy for me. I tell them that so they wont drink the good smelling bottle of whatever it is. I DID explain that when inhaled its not as dangerous, and does have some needed properties for some people. BUT when drank or put on the skin it is a poison.

Of course I am NOT above lying to my kids- I told them potato salad was mashed taters with cherries in it. They ate it and LOVED it.

I also tell the 3 year old that bugs pooped in his mouth and thats why we have to brush his teeth, and bugs are in his ears so he will let me put peroxide in them or clean them out.

 

[powley]

Of course I am NOT above lying to my kids- I told them potato salad was mashed taters with cherries in it. They ate it and LOVED it.

I also tell the 3 year old that bugs pooped in his mouth and thats why we have to brush his teeth, and bugs are in his ears so he will let me put peroxide in them or clean them out.

Lol, you are too funny! Now I get where you're coming from! Thanks...for the clarification and the laughs

 

[madizmo]

Is it safe to vape around a women who is pregnant?

 

[DeaRae]

I look at it this way; vaping hasn't been "proved" unsafe but that doesn't mean it's been proved completely safe. I believe it's much (much, much, much) safer than cigs but until there's some studies to show the true effect, I'd be careful. No harm, no foul.

 

[BestLion]

Ive thought about my daughter, and if she breathes in the vapor..it has nicotine, and I use 18-24 mg. I wonder if the vapor she can get hooked on second hand vapor? Cause the vapor I blow out is the same I also blow in??

 

[Ande]

It seems much less noxious than cigarette smoke- I don't vape "with" or "on" my wife, but am much less careful than I was when I was smoking.

Smoking, I left the apartment and went down to the street.

Vaping, I step into the laundry room or close my study door...

Best,
Ande

 

[chrism]

Somethings are becoming apparent. I think in this walk of life there are many questions we ask ourselves,sometimes we do not always know the answers,or we think we do only to find out later down the line we where wrong! Other times we end up proving ourselves right. I think whats right and whats wrong is ultimately defined by the end user. Example i choose to tell my child what perspective view pionts i have on a given subject,let him know i don,t know everything and try to explain to the best of my ability. I know in the end it will be up to my child to gather there information and apply it themself. I also know there will be outside influences involved in my childs desicion making.
Should i lie to my child becuase it is an easier thing to do inorder to get them to do what i think is best?
I try the this is what i think this is what they think and try to explain why i think this and why they think thAt,then let nature lead them to his/her choices and desicion making.
I understand there are pitstops along a roadtrip. I also am aware of the old saying you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.
I am also aware of the old saying two eyes are better than one,so it goes to reason that two heads are better than one.
One more saying is the more the merrier.
Who knows best well we all do. If given the proper piont in time for a refference.
Is anyone ever right 100% of the time?
We live we learn!
In short do what you think is best at the momment
not becuase you where influenced,but because you preconcieved possible outcomes.
Beware of doing things out of impulse from influence.
Of course it is always easier to give advice then to take it.
Leave every momment behind us in our past.
Live for every momment in our present.
Forethink our future knowing it may or may not "pan out".
Tring not to stress myself out all the time over every little thing
Helps keep my mind clear.even if sometimes it's the little things that matter so much.

 

[biffette]

i raised my kids on candy & kool aid just like my Mom did me, & they liked it!

in my opinion, the best way to deter a kid from smoking... OR vaping... is to tell them that if they start, they'll never have any money. kids grasp the concept of "broke" way better than the concept of "dead". they're never gonna die, cuz they are invincible. kids don't care about their health. that comes later in life, when it's way too late. my own kids never started smoking, cuz they want to be able to afford a new CD every once in a while. (they're in their 20s, so i don't look for them to start now)

 

[Moonflame]

I smoked in the house so vaping in the house is much safer. I explained that the liquid was poisonous to drink and to let sit on your skin and my 7 yr old never touches it. She's a smart cookie. She's also very proud that I have switched to vaping because she was taught in school how bad smoking is. The tests on PG have proven that it's safe to breathe, in fact it is in the medicine they give kids for asthma. If you are worried about the tiny amount of nicotine left in the vapor after you have inhaled it, the vape no nic juice around your kids if you need to satisfy the hand to mouth thing.

 

[bander68]

When I first got a pv, my boys (15,12,10) were extremely curious. Lots of people might disagree with my tactics, but too bad for them. I handed the pv to my oldest and let him try it. He gagged and choked and said it "tasted like your old cigarettes smelled". The 12yo had to find out for himself, so he tried it next. Same result. After seeing his brothers' reaction, the 10yo had no desire to try it. All of this was with a lovely chocolate donut flavor. They now understand, they won't go near them, and all like trying to guess what flavor I'm vaping by the smell.

 

[ditch.the.pack]

When I first got a pv, my boys (15,12,10) were extremely curious. Lots of people might disagree with my tactics, but too bad for them. I handed the pv to my oldest and let him try it. He gagged and choked and said it "tasted like your old cigarettes smelled". The 12yo had to find out for himself, so he tried it next. Same result. After seeing his brothers' reaction, the 10yo had no desire to try it. All of this was with a lovely chocolate donut flavor. They now understand, they won't go near them, and all like trying to guess what flavor I'm vaping by the smell.

That's exactly how I'll likely handle it when my PITA gets to that age (she's 4 now). That's how I never started smoking pot, after all. I have an extremely addictive personality (caffeine, nicotine, still chew my nails, and a handful or quirks). My friend brought a joint to my apartment (which I wanted to beat him senseless for!). I tried a drag, gagged my head off, and never tried again. And glad I didn't!

Now addicted to my Vanilla Custard, and totally wish I didn't have to wait till the mail lady gets here around 2pm to get it.

 

[jifjifjif]

Good post, Powley. Welcome to ECF. Its a wonderful family.

 

[ClayK]

It seems much less noxious than cigarette smoke- I don't vape "with" or "on" my wife, but am much less careful than I was when I was smoking.

Smoking, I left the apartment and went down to the street.

Vaping, I step into the laundry room or close my study door...

Best,
Ande

Same thing that I do. I didn't smoke analogs around my two boys, I also don't vape around them. It's much easier to "sneak" a vape in than it was to "sneak" an analog in.