Vaping and the immune system?
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Interesting read. Thank you for Posting this Chuck.
One thing that Always Irks me when I see most e-Cigarette Articles is the Inclusion of All e-Cigarettes (or e-liquids) into the Results of a Select Sampling.
This was one of the Few Articles that I have read that Points this out.
"A concerning factor in e-cig use is that it’s not well known what or how much flavor additives and components are in e-cigarette liquid, Jaspers said.
The concern was echoed by clinical pharmacologist Neal Benowitz of the University of California, San Francisco. “E-cigarettes are not one thing,” he said, noting that the devices, liquids, and flavorings vary widely. “We’re really in the beginning of understanding the toxicity.”
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Prior to vaping I would get at least one nasty cold, haven't had as much as a sniffle either in the past 15 months.
So the $64,000 Question is...
Who has had a Lot of Colds since they started Vaping Cinnamon Flavored e-Liquids?
"The researchers also looked at the gene-altering effects of different flavors of e-cigarettes on the cells in the delicate lining of the respiratory tract. The flavorings that seemed to have the most potent gene-altering effects were additives that taste like cinnamon—cinnamaldehyde—as well as butter flavors."
LOL.
Who has had a Lot of Colds since they started Vaping Cinnamon Flavored e-Liquids?
"The researchers also looked at the gene-altering effects of different flavors of e-cigarettes on the cells in the delicate lining of the respiratory tract. The flavorings that seemed to have the most potent gene-altering effects were additives that taste like cinnamon—cinnamaldehyde—as well as butter flavors."
LOL.
I started DIY last August to protect myself from government interference and to save money. But now that I'm doing the mixing some more benefits have come up. I decided I don't want to be chef vape. I want simple and easy with enough taste to be satisfied and not more. My daily vape has 1% flavoring and tastes fine. My understanding is most premix is in the 10% range. So if there's something questionable in my flavoring there may be 10 times less of it. Another benefit of minimal favor is people don't notice any smell. I've tested that at work and it makes a difference. Then if some gets in my clothing from pocket carrying there is no odor coming from my clothing. That has been a very nice benefit of less flavoring. If I knew how to significantly reduce visible vapor and still get some warmth and a good throat hit I'd do that too. The anti crowd is interested in the probllems. They have no interest in solutions. When we shut down an issue they move on to something else.
Funny how any doctor worth his/her salt will admit that not much is known about disorders of the immune system yet this article makes it sound like that isn't even being considered. There are no cures for any autoimmune disease that I've ever heard or read about. Yet these yahoo's want to claim that ecigs are "shutting down hundreds of immune system genes" and that it means....what exactly? Like any info they gather about this topic can actually tell them anything at all on a subject that isn't understood at all.
Yes.
And that kinda Ties Into what I was saying about Lumping All e-Liquids into an Articles Headline based on Isolated Results of a Small Sampling.
Retail Flavoring Percentages vary Wildly. Due to Flavor Strength of the Finished Product. But Also due to the Concentration Level of the Flavoring used.
For Retail e-Liquids, 10% Flavor Levels may be on the Low Side for TFA and FlavorArt compatible Flavorings. And 15% might be a Closer Average Level.
I too use Flavoring at Very, Very Low Levels in my DIY. And 1/2 of the time, I am (for all Practical Purposes) using Unflavored.
This study only included "around a dozen" vapers, but I've done my own study on the subject.
Since I've been doing chemotherapy, a treatment that is known to damage the immune system, I decided to vape while receiving treatment.
The result was that my immune system tested surprisingly strong while the control group was statistically weakened.
While their study suggests that "The flavorings that seemed to have the most potent gene-altering effects were additives that taste like cinnamon...." My ADV (All Day Vape) is a DIY cinnamon.
That's my story & I'm sticking to it.
Since I've been doing chemotherapy, a treatment that is known to damage the immune system, I decided to vape while receiving treatment.
The result was that my immune system tested surprisingly strong while the control group was statistically weakened.
While their study suggests that "The flavorings that seemed to have the most potent gene-altering effects were additives that taste like cinnamon...." My ADV (All Day Vape) is a DIY cinnamon.
That's my story & I'm sticking to it.
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Oh, I dunno...
I had nary a symptom of rheumatoid arthritis before I took up vaping.
I had nary a symptom of rheumatoid arthritis before I took up vaping.
A little more detail apparently from the same study...
Vaping linked to host of new health risks
Vaping linked to host of new health risks
Same here...but, I've also gotten four years older, gone through"the change", and have a family history of arthritis. My grandma had it 30 years ago and my younger sister currently has rheumatoid. Neither one was a smoker or a vaper..
There's no family history of rheumatoid arthritis for me. I'm told that the onset of RA is typically, though not necessarily at younger ages. Osteoarthritis on the other hand, is common in advanced years.
I was given a tentative diagnosis of RA two years before I took my first vape. These things are complicated though and Psoriatic Arthritis is now being looked at. I honestly don't know what to think.
My doctor tested me for Rheumatoid and it came back negative. )There can be false negatives though). He thinks mine is osteo. All I know is it hurts!
...admittedly short on in-depth knowledge myself. I've received medical comment that on a pain / stiffness axis, RA is more towards pain and OA more towards stiffness. That conclusion 'may' have involved some interpretation by myself, but seems to follow what I was being told.
Perhaps this aspect of the discussion should be moved to Health and Medical.
Going to stick this here because it is mostly off topic. Nicotine and tobacco both get a very brief mention mid article. Feel free to delete, move or duplicate in a more appropriate sub forum...
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...al-dna-may-increase-risk-allergies-depression
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...al-dna-may-increase-risk-allergies-depression
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