Vaping as ARDS "Cure"

[Aarett]

Let me preface this by saying that I am new to the forums and to vaping in general, so if this seems like a stupid question to ask, bear with me.

I understand that vaping can lead to dehydration because of the propeylene glycol used in the juice. That first got me concerned that it would dry out my lungs. After looking into the subject, I saw that simply drinking enough water would counter that. But this got me thinking. Wet lung (ARDS) is a "condition in which fluid collects in the lungs' air sacs, depriving organs of oxygen." The condition binds people to a ventilator and is often fatal. But this made me wonder, could the propeylene glycol from vaping be used to, for lack of better words, "cure" ARDS? Even if it wouldn't take enough moisture from the lungs, could it at least make those with just shortness of breath, a light symptom of the condition, be able to more freely enjoy their lives? Thoughts?

(Also, if this is the wrong section, apologies)

 

[Beamslider]

This is something better left to medical personnel for treatment. They usually use oxygen and other treatment.

I doubt they would suggest or allow vaping with that condition.

 

[Aarett]

This is something better left to medical personnel for treatment. They usually use oxygen and other treatment.

I doubt they would suggest or allow vaping with that condition.

I understand this, and I completely agree. The thing is that from what I can tell, it could possibly help. I don't see why they wouldn't be able to use it to develop even some derivative from vaping as an alternate treatment. Maybe we could get an opinion from a medical professional if vaping, or something similar, could be used?

Not only that, but something medically positive coming from the vaping community might help to diminish the stigma

 

[Bunnykiller]

the dehydration thing is a total myth... yes, VG and PG does attract water but at about 40% of its volume...
so, if you vape 10ml of juice in 1 day, it will ( at best) absorb about 4ml of water from your system... not even a full teaspoons worth.

 

[ppeeble]

I've always been sceptical of the whole vaping & dehydration mythos. I believe it's one of those myths that has a basis in science but got twisted into something it's not back in the early days. The 'fact' gets trotted out so often that a lot of people take it as a truth.
The act of mouth breathing dries out the tongue. Simples.

 

[mattiem]

Welcome to the forum @Aarett You have come to the right place to ask your questions. We may not be able to scientifically answer this question but I agree with what @Bunnykiller and @ppeeble said, vaping actually pulls very little actual water from ones body so I don't think it would help an ARDS patient. I was a good thought though.

 

[stols001]

It's an interesting idea, but I also do wonder because typically the "dry out" period really only lasts a few days until your body adjusts, it's not a permanent matter. I personally FEEL that the "dehydration" effect really comes from the combination of chain-vaping that often happens starting out, plus cigarette withdrawal. When you withdraw from ANYTHING, dehydration can be an issue, honestly. It is a good idea to drink more water early on, but I'm uncertain if this would be of much use in a clinical application. If you know any doctors (including yours) you might mention it to them and get their thoughts, though, as I am not a doctor. Or email one of the researchers who has an interest in e-cigarettes, but I'm pretty certain that it's unlikely to be a clinical cure. With that said, I am not a doctor, so I don't know.

Welcome to ECF!

Anna

 

[Eskie]

I've been vaping over 2 years and still get a dry mouth when vaping. It does not dehydrate your entire body. As to treatment of ARDS with PG, it's a novel idea, but one that might make things worse instead of better.

 

[Bunnykiller]

yall really want to know how the dehydration thing got started??? when vaping was new, everyone was told it was water vapor being exhaled ( not VG/PG) so people took that as gospel and figured that since there was sooo much "vapor" being exhaled in the form of water, the body must be loosing all that water during the day... therefore the need to drink 2 gallons of water a day to replenish the lost " water vapor" was needed... and hence a new myth was born

 

[Bunnykiller]

and of course there was the other side that vaping would fill your lungs with water....

 

[Cool_Breeze]

...anybody have issues with dry skin related to PG use in vaping?

 

[Letitia]

...anybody have issues with dry skin related to PG use in vaping?

My lips get dry. Did with smoking, but more so with vaping.

 

[Bunnykiller]

maybe the drip tip causes dry lips

 

[Letitia]

maybe the drip tip causes dry lips

Don't think so. Seems cig filter would be worse. I know I drink much more water than I did when smoking. Something from the act of vaping does dry out mucous membranes. The inside of my nose is drier as well.

 

[Letitia]

Don't think so. Seems cig filter would be worse. I know I drink much more water than I did when smoking. Something from the act of vaping does dry out mucous membranes. The inside of my nose is drier as well.

Misspoke, my sinus' are much drier than before vaping, not my nose.

 

[Jingles]

I love that it dries out the sinuses. I hardly ever get post nasal drip anymore. I remember even when I was a teenager, I always had gunk running down my throat. Smoking in my forties didn't help. Vaping has pretty much cleared it up.

 

[AzPlumber]

the dehydration thing is a total myth... yes, VG and PG does attract water but at about 40% of its volume...
so, if you vape 10ml of juice in 1 day, it will ( at best) absorb about 4ml of water from your system... not even a full teaspoons worth.

VG is a diuretic

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Those who may be concerned about PG and skin issues (dryness...dehydration...) might do well to study this very old thread from 2010-2011. While it drifts, bounces and careens all over the place per different posters, I think a thorough read and reflection will reveal (depending on personal circumstnaces) some significant symptoms related to PG as used in vaping. I ask for the OP's tollerance.

Itchy Skin, Rashes: PG Allergy

This thread needs to be brought up every so often as many notions in it seem to otherwise seem to be missing from current dialogue...not that I keep up with everything. I think it was a great discussion and it was able to remain out in the open in a period before any ongoing dialoge indicating vaping could lead to anything less than unicorns and rainbows got automatically stiffled.

 

[Letitia]

I'll be mixing tomorrow. Think I'll leave pg out of this batch and see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the link.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I'll be mixing tomorrow. Think I'll leave pg out of this batch and see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the link.

I've gone to 95% VG and 5% nicotine (50mg/ml) in the past couple of months. No flavoring. Stopping flavoing cut down on about 80% of the post nasal drip I had been experiencing. While I might 'want' flavoring and higher PG, as some musical artists penned, "You can't always get what you want. You get what you need."

Good fortune to you!