Vaping lead to nicotine usage

[VapeSomaThis]

First off, let me start by saying that I do understand that this is the complete opposite of the reason for which to start vaping and that I do understand that nicotine is bad for you. I'm wondering if anyone here has heard of or has had a similar situation to me.

I initially started vaping as a way to just relax and do smoke tricks without having to use a hookah. I used 0 nic juices and enjoyed the convenience of having a vape. It also gave me a cleaner solution than bumming cigarettes when I was drunk. (I always want to smoke when I'm drunk for some reason. I can't find an explanation for that) Eventually, I moved on to using 6mg (still there today) juices to utilize the nicotine to help stay awake and focus on school work (I know I sound crazy, but it is a scientifically proven result of nicotine usage) in addition to the aforementioned usages.

It might be worth noting that I do not feel addicted and have gone through many perfectly normal days without using my vape at all.

So essentially, instead of stepping down like a traditional smoker, I stepped up. Has anyone ever heard of anyone doing something like this? Just curious.

 

[sonicdsl]

Hi there VST...hope you're doing well.
No, it's not the first time someone has done this. There are a few similar stories we've seen posted here before.

I do understand that nicotine is bad for you.

What makes you say this though? Keeping in mind "the dose makes the poison", nicotine, in and of itself, is not bad. What's bad is the tar and thousands of chemicals inhaled in smoke (naturally, nicotine happens to be in it). Society has conflated nicotine with tar/chemicals for a long time.

Here's some good information, that may make you feel better about it: The Great Nicotine Myth

 

[Lessifer]

There are a number of users here who never smoked before and are using nic, there's even a professor doing his own solo "study/experiment" on himself. Nicotine is not the demon that you've been led to believe.

Welcome to ECF

 

[CMD-Ky]

First off, let me start by saying that I do understand that this is the complete opposite of the reason for which to start vaping and that I do understand that nicotine is bad for you. I'm wondering if anyone here has heard of or has had a similar situation to me.

I initially started vaping as a way to just relax and do smoke tricks without having to use a hookah. I used 0 nic juices and enjoyed the convenience of having a vape. It also gave me a cleaner solution than bumming cigarettes when I was drunk. (I always want to smoke when I'm drunk for some reason. I can't find an explanation for that) Eventually, I moved on to using 6mg (still there today) juices to utilize the nicotine to help stay awake and focus on school work (I know I sound crazy, but it is a scientifically proven result of nicotine usage) in addition to the aforementioned usages.

It might be worth noting that I do not feel addicted and have gone through many perfectly normal days without using my vape at all.

So essentially, instead of stepping down like a traditional smoker, I stepped up. Has anyone ever heard of anyone doing something like this? Just curious.

The regulators and those who love to be regulated will absolutely go head over heels to shout your story to all who have ears to hear. Here we have a statement that vaping is a gateway to the use of nicotine.

 

[3mg Meniere]

There is no known harm to low dosages of nic. 3mg and 6mg are no more harmful than low usage of caffeine. IMHO

 

[kaahn]

Well nicotine isn't really the bad thing and not so much the addictive thing in cigarettes...the delivery system is what was bad for you. Nicotine can actually be found in a lot of common foods like eggplant. Nicotine isn't as addictive as the public is lead to believe. BT wants you to believe that nicotine is the addictive substance in cigarettes so that you won't question all the 1000's of added chemicals they add to them to keep you actually hooked on their product. What better way to divert your attention than to blame it on something that is naturally found in tobacco.

 

[sonicdsl]

I initially started vaping as a way to just relax and do smoke tricks without having to use a hookah.

The regulators and those who love to be regulated will absolutely go head over heels to shout your story to all who have ears to hear. Here we have a statement that vaping is a gateway to the use of nicotine.

Certainly a possibility CMD, but as he stated in the OP, he started aw a way to not use a hookah. That's an improvement.

 

[EJAB]

Hi there VST...hope you're doing well.
No, it's not the first time someone has done this. There are a few similar stories we've seen posted here before.

What makes you say this though? Keeping in mind "the dose makes the poison", nicotine, in and of itself, is not bad. What's bad is the tar and thousands of chemicals inhaled in smoke (naturally, nicotine happens to be in it). Society has conflated nicotine with tar/chemicals for a long time.

Here's some good information, that may make you feel better about it: The Great Nicotine Myth

You're WRONG! Nicotine has many NEGATIVE side-effects. Here's one example: Vasoconstriction=increased blood pressure=increased work-load on heart.

 

[Izan]

Well nicotine isn't really the bad thing and not so much the addictive thing in cigarettes...the delivery system is what was bad for you. Nicotine can actually be found in a lot of common foods like eggplant. Nicotine isn't as addictive as the public is lead to believe. BT wants you to believe that nicotine is the addictive substance in cigarettes so that you won't question all the 1000's of added chemicals they add to them to keep you actually hooked on their product. What better way to divert your attention than to blame it on something that is naturally found in tobacco.

Or they DON'T ?
Nicotine is NOT addictive.

 

[sonicdsl]

Your WRONG! Nicotine has many NEGATIVE side-effects. Here's one example: Vasoconstriction=increased blood pressure=increased work-load on heart.

Better lay off the caffeine too then.

 

[VapeSomaThis]

Thanks for the link Sonic. I skimmed it, but it was interesting and seemed to be well put together.

EJAB is correct as well, nicotine does have many negative side effects as well, but if I'm not mistaken, they a mostly short term (meaning discontinuing usage would have them disappear within a couple weeks).

 

[Judge Dredd]

It might be worth noting that I do not feel addicted

Funny, I remember saying similar words when I started smoking...

 

[Lessifer]

You're WRONG! Nicotine has many NEGATIVE side-effects. Here's one example: Vasoconstriction=increased blood pressure=increased work-load on heart.

That's one POTENTIALLY negative side effect, though I've seen at least one study that suggested the temporary nature of the effect is more like a mini workout as long as not done excessively. Do you have more examples of negative side effects?

Here's a few examples of potential positives: Nicotine, the Wonder Drug? | DiscoverMagazine.com

 

[Robino1]

You're WRONG! Nicotine has many NEGATIVE side-effects. Here's one example: Vasoconstriction=increased blood pressure=increased work-load on heart.

Kind of yes and kind of no. If you have a history of heart problems then you might want to stay away from nicotine. But, and this is a big But, not necessarily. There are people that are using ecigs to get away from smoking, which in itself is MUCH harder on the heart because of the tar and all the other stuff that goes along with burning the paper and tobacco.

The lesser of two evils? Also, dose makes a huge difference.

Sensitivity also comes into play. I know we have all heard the comparison to caffeine but here goes another one. My Husband is highly sensitive to caffeine. Even in small amounts his heart will act up. I seriously do not know if nic would affect it as he is not a smoker and never was one. Nor does he vape.

So in reality, it is an individual thing whether or not a person is sensitive to the nic.

 

[Oliver]

OK, Ima jump in here as "Mr equivocal" and just make a few points.

1. Nicotine in e-cigs may be harder to get dependent on, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. Probably, it's just a function of time and how much you consume. You REALLY do not want to become dependent on it so I'd really advise you lay off.

2. An observation: you appear to be "motivated to use" nicotine. I.e. you've read about the positives of nicotine and have chosen to consume it. Is this accurate as your primary reason for moving up to a 6mg juice, or was there something else?

3. In terms of safety, the picture is extremely mixed. It's not safe, but it's also the least risky part of a smoked cigarette (except in the trivial sense that it is fundamentally what causes people to carry on smoking). Vasoconstriction is real, and will affect people differently according to their genetics, their general fitness, age and so on.

 

[lamarrk]

I'm very skeptical as to my "nicotine addiciton" due to the overwhelming evidence now being introduced on the subject. When I smoked, I got antsy if I couldn't light one up in a non-smoking area. I counted the minutes until I could get to a smoking area. I either avoided those places I couldn't smoke or limited the time I spent there. Now, not so much. I can go much longer without vaping than I could go without smoking. I've lowered my nicotine intake to ¼ of what it was when I started vaping. There is hope for those who smoke and want to quit and it's called vaping.

 

[kaahn]

Or they DON'T ?
Nicotine is NOT addictive.

Was that video before or after the massive regulation ban hammer came smashing down hmmm. I believe the time period and context matters.

 

[Izan]

Was that video before or after the massive regulation ban hammer came smashing down hmmm. I believe the time period and context matters.

The video was from the lawsuit era...
The "Ban Hammer" was self-inflicted: Win/Win and NEVER any competition.

cheers
I

 

[VapeSomaThis]

@SmokeyJoe those reasons + the mellow feeling it gives to an extent.

@lamarrk I agree. Vaping is definitely a way (probably the best imo) for people to quit smoking. I will say the regulations that governing bodies are trying to enact are hindersome, but they are correct in the fact that there needs to be some regulation (in terms of what is safe to add to juices) and proper research (not some of those ridiculous inaccurate tests of recent) done to see definitively if there are any long term consequences.

 

[CardinalWinds]

Eventually, I moved on to using 6mg (still there today) juices to utilize the nicotine to help stay awake and focus on school work (I know I sound crazy, but it is a scientifically proven result of nicotine usage)

Nope, doesn't sound crazy in the least. I suffer from depression, anxiety and a chronic inability to concentrate, Nicotine does wonders for me in alleviating those ailments. The positives greatly outweigh the negatives for me. But each person has to decide based on their body, not mine.

I can go much longer without vaping than I could go without smoking.

QFT! I know when my nic level gets low, just like when smoking, but the urges themselves are much more mild. I can put it out of my mind and delay my vaping much easier than I could when smoking, if I need to.