Hey everyone. I've been vaping for about 6 months now, but have noticed that if I take a really long drag (2+ seconds) to make heavy clouds I end up choking on the vapor and coughing. I am using my stillare about 3/4 open with a .3ohm dual parallel build. The juice I use is 0 nic (I've tied to vape on juice with 3-6mg nic and I can't even start to inhale before coughing) I've tried lung inhales and mouth inhales. I'm just wondering if there's any way I can get past it, cause it's kind of a bummer. Thanks!
Vaping makes me cough
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I doubt many people are inhaling with sub ohm builds.
Holding the vapor in your mouth for 5 seconds BEFORE inhaling helps.You might try that.
Holding the vapor in your mouth for 5 seconds BEFORE inhaling helps.You might try that.
Tobacco smoke and vapor differ in the way they 'hit'.
First ever long drag and deep inhale - like I was used to from tobacco - at the very beginning of my vaping 'career' made me fully aware of the size of my lungs ...
and we're not talking subohming or high performance mod - just a lowly ego-T.
Was one of the reasons I got into DIY hard and fast - spending hours here reading reading reading.
I reckon that inhaling with subohm builds should be no problem with liquids especially 'tweaked' for that purpose
First ever long drag and deep inhale - like I was used to from tobacco - at the very beginning of my vaping 'career' made me fully aware of the size of my lungs ...
and we're not talking subohming or high performance mod - just a lowly ego-T.
Was one of the reasons I got into DIY hard and fast - spending hours here reading reading reading.
I reckon that inhaling with subohm builds should be no problem with liquids especially 'tweaked' for that purpose
What is the PG VG ratio of your juice? I personally find the more PG I have in the mix the more irritating the vapour is on the chest, obviously when it comes to juice we are all different but it may be something to look into.
I agree. Most if my juices are 6mg 70vg30pg and I can Vape that just fine. When I try to Vape 40vg60pg it irritates me. I'm pretty sure that's the throat hit alot of people crave. But it's not for me.
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PG VG ratio of your juice needs adjusted. Before that, see your doctor and take care. Keep your throat not hurt too much
Patient: Doctor doctor..it hurts when I do ~~this~~
Doctor: Don't do that!
try what these folks said, the only ones I can do lung hits with are the 6mg ones, and still I get too much I choke/cough on it. Try a smaller inhale, hold in your mouth and work your way up?
did you smoke? or just vaping 0 mg nic?? if you're a non smoker and this is new inhaling substances into your lungs you're going to cough.
Doctor: Don't do that!
try what these folks said, the only ones I can do lung hits with are the 6mg ones, and still I get too much I choke/cough on it. Try a smaller inhale, hold in your mouth and work your way up?
did you smoke? or just vaping 0 mg nic?? if you're a non smoker and this is new inhaling substances into your lungs you're going to cough.
Patient: Doctor doctor..it hurts when I do ~~this~~
Doctor: Don't do that!
This! Dude, you're trying to inhale vapor at nearly 60 watts with a 0.3 ohm coil. 
Duhhh! WHY are you building so low?Don't bother answering, I already know. You're a self-described cloud chaser. In order to make fog like your buddies do, you have to use the super low sub-ohms.
Ask yourself this. Why am I vaping in the first place? Wasn't taking up vaping merely to get off and stay off of cigarettes? Then ask where are my priorities? Flavor or vapor? Or both?
At 6 months, you're a relatively new vaper. I've been vaping for over 2 1/2 years. I've been rebuilding for over a year now. I've sampled the 0.1 - 0.3 ohm builds at my local vape shop, and I wonder how they can tolerate that many watts and all of that heated vapor. To me, its just not a good vape.
I build to sub-ohms, too. My builds are 0.6 ohm dual coils. That's under 30 watts, half of what you are using. I have both flavor and vapor, it's not hot, and its a VERY good vape. I'm not continuously running my batteries at their pulse amp limits like those other guys, and have a wider margin of safety should I unknowingly develop a short in my setup.
Granted, I'm not making the amount of vapor that my buddies are, but I'm not really impressed by all of that. I've found the setup that works FOR ME, and it doesn't involve vaping at below 0.5 ohms and 60 watts. Maybe you can, too.
Raise your build resistance, insure you have adequate air flow in your atty, make sure you're getting adequate wicking of your e-liquid to your coils, and add some Vg to your e-liquid. I think you'll find it to be more enjoyable than what you are trying to do with your current build.
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Your vaping scenario is the reason I lowered my RDA nic content down to 3mg.
I also learned in short time, for me at least, that any coil resistance below 0.5 ohms was not an enjoyable vaping experience and a waste of my DIY and purchased juices.
I agree 100% with Baditude!
Raise your ohms to .5+... personally my sweet spot on a dripper (Stillare) is .7 - .8... on my kayfuns it's 1.2 - 1.5 using a 30w device. Also increase your VG content in your juice. If you do this, I bet you'll enjoy vaping much more.
Raise your ohms to .5+... personally my sweet spot on a dripper (Stillare) is .7 - .8... on my kayfuns it's 1.2 - 1.5 using a 30w device. Also increase your VG content in your juice. If you do this, I bet you'll enjoy vaping much more.
The majority of vapers switched from cigarettes because of the dangers of smoking. We sought to replicate the actions of smoking with the vapor and flavor of an ecig. Although I occasionally jack up my Kayfun to 12 or 13 watts, I'm usually more in the 9 watt range and sometimes down to 7 watts. I'm just trying to produce the vapor that corresponds to the cigarettes I smoked. Big clouds usually result in irritation to my throat and lungs. That's about normal for 80pg/20vg juice. If I vape too much VG I get the heavy lung feeling that other vapers also describe.
EPA has workplace limits for workers exposed to PG and VG fog in their job. Those regulations are there for health reasons. Yes, some of those fog producers use different types of glycerin, but they are allowed because they aren't dangerous, just irritating.
Ecigs are designed to provide vapor something like cigarette smoke. Jacking up the vapor has its detrimental irritating effects. That's normal for extreme vaping. If it makes you cough ... don't do it!
EPA has workplace limits for workers exposed to PG and VG fog in their job. Those regulations are there for health reasons. Yes, some of those fog producers use different types of glycerin, but they are allowed because they aren't dangerous, just irritating.
Ecigs are designed to provide vapor something like cigarette smoke. Jacking up the vapor has its detrimental irritating effects. That's normal for extreme vaping. If it makes you cough ... don't do it!
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My wife is still on analogs because she can't vape anything we've bought or made. I personally think it's psychosomatic, because she LOVES to smoke (but now I hate to kiss her).
My guess is that you're running hot to make HUGE clouds (why else would you vape 0 nic @ 0.3ohms). If you are looking for flavor and satisfied with average vapor, a single coil 1.6-2.5ohm set-up will provide both. If image is the goal, I can see where coughing would be a big inhibitor.
I'm not judging your reasons, by the way. If you like it, VAPE ON!
Perhaps sharing with us your reasons/goals in vaping will help us help you get to the happy place you seek. Is it to get away from Cancer sticks? Because it's cool? Sometimes that's difficult to admit, but that's the reason most people start smoking cigarettes, so you're in common company. Is it because you like to pretend you are a dragon and this is the least damaging way to embrace your inner Smaug? Whatever your reasons, Vaping is not only fun, but often time the much lesser of two evils.
So I'll ask again, What are you seeking?
My guess is that you're running hot to make HUGE clouds (why else would you vape 0 nic @ 0.3ohms). If you are looking for flavor and satisfied with average vapor, a single coil 1.6-2.5ohm set-up will provide both. If image is the goal, I can see where coughing would be a big inhibitor.
I'm not judging your reasons, by the way. If you like it, VAPE ON!
Perhaps sharing with us your reasons/goals in vaping will help us help you get to the happy place you seek. Is it to get away from Cancer sticks? Because it's cool? Sometimes that's difficult to admit, but that's the reason most people start smoking cigarettes, so you're in common company. Is it because you like to pretend you are a dragon and this is the least damaging way to embrace your inner Smaug? Whatever your reasons, Vaping is not only fun, but often time the much lesser of two evils.
So I'll ask again, What are you seeking?
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My guess....
I say...
Ouch, that hurts... Ouch, that hurts... Ouch, that hurts.....
The solution is pretty simple, really.
I say...
Ouch, that hurts... Ouch, that hurts... Ouch, that hurts.....The solution is pretty simple, really.
I think the standard lower PG and working on inhalation advice has already been made. I see guys inhaling huge clouds so I know it can be done. RipTrippers has made videos where he is explicitly inhaling straight to lungs then mouth to lungs. Both resulting in huge clouds. Maybe try some straight VG?
I vape at 1.8-2.5 on my Silver Bullet. I get nice clouds/flavor. I don't need to fill my room up with vapor in 1 hit. Just not my style. I use this device to keep me from going back to cig's. And it has done a great job so far
Thanks for the replies everyone! I have been thinking of rebuilding up to the .5ohm area, but haven't bought the necessary building supplies yet, and I don't feel like going to a shop to get a build. I'm not necessarily into vaping to cloud chase, but I feel like if I want to blow a massive cloud I should be able to. In all honesty, I just think vaping as a whole is super cool and I love it. I am in no way unhappy with my vape experience, I just wanted to know why I am unable to take long inhales. Unfortunately, the PG/VG ratio is not labelled on the juice I'm vaping.
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Unless you are going to compete in cloud production or you enjoy the HOT vape, there is little need to go sub ohm. I run 1.9-1.1 and my vapor is dense, warm and TASTY! I am also off the analogs and down to 3mg nic. Almost all my liquid is 70/30 or 80/20.
Watch some of Rip Trippers videos. He is a flavor chaser, but shows how you can mess with coil building to find your enjoyable set up. When you go sub ohm you are drawing high amps, which generate lots of heat fast. This may be causing you to cough.
Watch some of Rip Trippers videos. He is a flavor chaser, but shows how you can mess with coil building to find your enjoyable set up. When you go sub ohm you are drawing high amps, which generate lots of heat fast. This may be causing you to cough.
I've been vaping for about 2 months and building coils for a couple weeks. I vape a Panzer Blackhawk with Plume Veil RDA using 80VG juices. Had a parallel at .35ohm and loved it, great flavor and good clouds no cough. Recently rebuilt to .2ohms and coughing just about every time. Listen to the others and up the ohms till your comfortably vaping.
Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how vaping is done! Welcome to the forum.
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