Vapor,Vapor...Why should I care!

[FRANKSTER]

I should have started this thread 2 years ago. I went into vaping first and foremost to save money. It had nothing to do with health reasons. I was smoking 2pd for 45 years. I was only interested in the hit so I tried to get 48mg or 36mg and settled on 24mg because that is the highest many vendors go.

I did not care how much vapor came out of my mouth and nose and nor do I care now. I do not remember smoking to see how much smoke I could make or how many rings I can do in a row. I did not care because it had nothing to do with my addiction and the same can be said about vaping. All I see on youtube are reviewers telling us how much vapor they are making. What does this do for my addiction. It does absolutely nothing.

I usually vape 70/30 or 50/50 and the vapor is what it is. I never bought a juice to get more vapor and please tell me why I should. Maybe I am missing something here. Explain to me please. I did a little experiment and bought my first juice at 90/10 vg/pg and wow there was alot of vapor but absolutely no hit. I had to put the juice on the shelf and wait for more of the same juice. I had to get a higher mg level and a 90/10 pg/vg. For me, this proved my point...more vapor and less hit.

This makes no sense to me. I want my addiction satisfied and I do not need to show people that I can make clouds but it seems that vapers all want the clouds. Explain why? is it a status symbol for a vaper or does it have something to do with taking care of your addiction? If all you want is vapor with less hit..you should quit vaping and keep your money in your bank account because my experience with Smooth Criminal from Ahlusion was a complete waste of money.

I vape at 1.5 ohms on a dc carto and some tanks like the Nautilus to let you know my setup. I also use the provari mini and the silver bullet. Also, I vape 1.5 ohms at 4 volts and 2 ohms at 4.8 volts.

Please enlighten me to why I need alot of vapor for my addiction? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated and may change my mind if they make any sense to me.

 

[Cookster]

I'm with you...for me it's about flavor, and that lovely chest "thump". You can keep your clouds, IMO

 

[Bigd432]

Different strokes for different folks. Some people just like the vapor production. I don't see why you're making such a big deal about. You like the throat hit so just go for that. I can't imagine have one without the other. That's why all of my juices are a 50/50 blend.

 

[vaperature]

I saw that White Cloud is now offering a vaporizer that produces absolutely no visible vapor at all, designed especially for stealth vaping. My question is what makes that different than the Nicotrol Inhaler? If all you're doing it for is to feed an "addiction" then slap a patch on your arm and call it a day. Personally I find high pg juices with little vapor very unsatisfying. Sure you get a blast of nicotine but that's about all you get. If that's all you want out of it, you can easily chew some nicorette gum and not even have to bother with any of the nuances of vaping. For me vaping is a lot more than just getting a nicotine fix. It provides something to do, a hobby to participate in, that fills the gap left when I abandoned my old nasty habit. Taking the vapor out of vaping is like taking the red out of Cabernet Sauvignon. If all you want is the alcohol from it, why buy Cabernet Sauvignon? Just get a can of Camo Black and you're done.

 

[Butters80]

I'll give Bigd a herumph. If what your setup gives you is what you need, no worries. No need to produce big clouds. Some folks just like the visual effect of having vaped. If it isn't broke....

 

[kslice917]

I saw that White Cloud is now offering a vaporizer that produces absolutely no visible vapor at all, designed especially for stealth vaping. My question is what makes that different than the Nicotrol Inhaler? If all you're doing it for is to feed an "addiction" then slap a patch on your arm and call it a day. Personally I find high pg juices with little vapor very unsatisfying. Sure you get a blast of nicotine but that's about all you get. If that's all you want out of it, you can easily chew some nicorette gum and not even have to bother with any of the nuances of vaping. For me vaping is a lot more than just getting a nicotine fix. It provides something to do, a hobby to participate in, that fills the gap left when I abandoned my old nasty habit. Taking the vapor out of vaping is like taking the red out of Cabernet Sauvignon. If all you want is the alcohol from it, why buy Cabernet Sauvignon? Just get a can of Camo Black and you're done.

I can see where you're coming from; but for me, I'm not so much "addicted" to the nicotine as I am of the habit of picking up my PV and puffing on it. In fact, that's why quite a few people vape at 0mg nic.

I can fully agree - a cloud of vapor is unnecessary, but to each their own. Now as I've stated before on here, I have had the experience that a fuller cloud of vapor typically contains more flavor - so long as the juice doesn't get burnt. But personally, I would rather stick with my smaller cloud and not take that chance. That, and I'm fine with the amount of flavor I get out of my Aero Tank - a very similar setup to the OP's.

 

[rhunpenny]

I'm the reverse, I would rather have more vapor then throat hit. While I agree that I never bought cigarettes based on how much smoke they produced, I also didn't buy them based on how much I could feel them hit the throat. What satisfies the addiction is different for everyone. That is why it so great that you can tailor your experience with different equipment or pg/vg ratios.

 

[FRANKSTER]

I saw that White Cloud is now offering a vaporizer that produces absolutely no visible vapor at all, designed especially for stealth vaping. My question is what makes that different than the Nicotrol Inhaler? If all you're doing it for is to feed an "addiction" then slap a patch on your arm and call it a day. Personally I find high pg juices with little vapor very unsatisfying. Sure you get a blast of nicotine but that's about all you get. If that's all you want out of it, you can easily chew some nicorette gum and not even have to bother with any of the nuances of vaping. For me vaping is a lot more than just getting a nicotine fix. It provides something to do, a hobby to participate in, that fills the gap left when I abandoned my old nasty habit. Taking the vapor out of vaping is like taking the red out of Cabernet Sauvignon. If all you want is the alcohol from it, why buy Cabernet Sauvignon? Just get a can of Camo Black and you're done.

I think you are wrong on so many levels...I tried the patch once and it had no effect at all. The most importing thing about vaping is to satisfy your addiction. If it was not, I for one would never vape.

That is like drinking beer that has no alcohol...it is a complete waste of time and money...I tried it so I am speaking from experience. If you do not need the nic, you should not be vaping.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Different strokes for different folks. Some people just like the vapor production. I don't see why you're making such a big deal about. You like the throat hit so just go for that. I can't imagine have one without the other. That's why all of my juices are a 50/50 blend.

I am not making a big deal about it...I am just interested in why people care.

 

[Zealous]

The short answer is that some people vape for sport. There are degrees in between where you are & the sport kind of vaper too so where someone fits on the curve is directly related to their value of the amount of vapor they get.

I use high PG juice & huge clouds is not a big deal to me either.

 

[Zealous]

I saw that White Cloud is now offering a vaporizer that produces absolutely no visible vapor at all, designed especially for stealth vaping. My question is what makes that different than the Nicotrol Inhaler? If all you're doing it for is to feed an "addiction" then slap a patch on your arm and call it a day. Personally I find high pg juices with little vapor very unsatisfying. Sure you get a blast of nicotine but that's about all you get. If that's all you want out of it, you can easily chew some nicorette gum and not even have to bother with any of the nuances of vaping. For me vaping is a lot more than just getting a nicotine fix. It provides something to do, a hobby to participate in, that fills the gap left when I abandoned my old nasty habit. Taking the vapor out of vaping is like taking the red out of Cabernet Sauvignon. If all you want is the alcohol from it, why buy Cabernet Sauvignon? Just get a can of Camo Black and you're done.

High PG juices produce a higher TH than higher VG juices. You can't get TH from nic gum or a patch.

 

[Timactionfigures]

Because people like to show off! They like to be noticed! Thank god PV's don't have a carburetor/exhaust system. If they did we'd be surrounded by the "loud pipe syndrome" that folks seem to think is so cool on their motorcycles! Great for them maybe...but annoying as all heck to everyone else around them!

 

[iamzg]

Different strokes for different folks. Some people just like the vapor production. I don't see why you're making such a big deal about. You like the throat hit so just go for that. I can't imagine have one without the other. That's why all of my juices are a 50/50 blend.

You have to listen to the guy with the biggest beard in the room.

 

[Scootaloo]

Well looking at your reasons for vaping, they don’t match mine: different things about vaping appeal to different people.

Example, the ‘money’ saving side mentioned, I didn’t start vaping for that, I starting vaping for other reasons the money wasn’t really an issue with me.

Clouds of vapour appeal to me, for me it’s part of the ritual, and it adds to the vaping fun for me.

 

[macaroni]

I'm not a "cloud chaser" per se .... but I have noticed that different VG/PG ratios, and different settings on my vaporizor produce different amounts of vapor.

Call me crazy, but it seems that 50/50 juice vaped in the "normal" ranges of watts (8 - 10ish depending on flavor) produces a cloud with a certian "texture" or "feel" or "thickness" .... I'm grasping at words here because I don't really know how to describe it .... but there is a texture at the sweet spot for me.

For me, the way I judge a juice is if the flavor, cloud texture, and throat hit sweet spots are all the same.

 

[davis0710]

I agree macaroni. When I take a puff and notice there isn't much flavor, there usually isn't as much vapor either. The thicker the vapor coming out means the better draw/flavor that I got. I'm no cloud chaser and only have a vision spinner with evod so I don't know if I qualify to answer lol. I also just want something that tastes good! I really don't agree with the OP. Why do you like red shoes and I like blue shoes? It's a difference of opinion. Your addiction isn't the same as other vapors addiction. There is more addiction than just the nicotine which is what you're trying to say. Some people are addicted to the whole act which include blowing out smoke. If they want to make big clouds and it is keeping them healthier and safer while doing so, what do you care? You say you're no making a big deal but then say it is pointless in vaping if there is no nic. Well maybe to you but not others.

 

[tj99959]

I like to see some vapor, and I think most do. BUT, I also like to be able to see the rest of the world around me without a cloud blocking my view. You could always just smear up your glasses if a haze is all that you want to see.


Besides, my wife said that I would be the one cleaning the walls if I did that.

 

[Bosco]

I'm with macaroni . . . .I don't chase clouds but I like a thick, warm, dense vape with lots of flavor. In my experience that goes hand in hand with a good sized cloud. Not a "Youtube cloud" but when I play poker with my ego-twist/kanger evod using buddy I typically get comments about the cloud size.

A lot of times I don't even like the big cloud . .but I LOVE the flavor of a vape so thick you can almost chew it, lol.

 

[dchest02]

Maybe I am wrong, but I think the OP has an issue with the people that are taking up vaping out of pure sport. Do I have a problem with those people as well? Yes. Why? Because for me vaping was a way to free myself from tobacco cigarettes and the 4000 harmful chemicals held within them, not because my one friend is blowing out huge clouds of vapor and I want to do it too. The latter is how I started smoking, as I'm sure many of us did, peer pressure. Am I saying that the sport vapers have no right to be in this community? No, but I would rather give advice to someone that wants to start vaping to help their health than to someone that just wants to blow cumulus clouds, and that is my prerogative.

The cloud chasers versus smoking alternative debate will go on just as long the Provari versus (insert mod name here) debate will, and everyone will have their own opinion, which everyone is entitled to. So who is right? We all are. We are going to have to add cloud chasing and mod preference to the list of things that you should never talk about like voting and religion because there will always be someone that doesn't share the same belief as we do, and that's OK.

 

[Jay-dub]

Despite the claims on PG vs VG of others, that's not how it's worked out for me. I find VG more fullfilling. I never noticed a difference in throat hit until I tried lower nic. But I like the cool currents of thick vapor billowing out from a slow exhale. It's a refreshing fog.