Vapor,Vapor...Why should I care!

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goodoleboy45

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I started vaping to break a 30yr analog habit. I prefer 50/50 becauce u get the best of both world`s. I`m not a cloud chaser either I just like a good vape.Good flavor TH and some vape to go along with it. Everyone is different in the persuit of the best vape for them. How ever I do worry about cloud chaser`s causing havick for the rest of us by blowing clouds in public :2c:
 

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Yep. That pretty much says it all. I'm in it more for the flavors then anything else. I don't like all VG juice simply because it dulls the flavor to me. I don't care about the amount of vapor much, but I do like to see some. While I didn't smoke for the smoke, seeing the smoke was part of smoking. I'm not a cloud chaser, but I don't think I'd like vaping without some visible vapor. I'm pretty happy vaping 50/50. A happy medium, at around 8 watts. Now, what I don't understand is how people can get good flavor out of a juice vaping at 15 watts. I go much higher then I'm at, and all I get is a burnt taste.
 

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I want it all ... Flavor, Throat hit, and Vapor ... and in that order!:p

While I do not feel the need to "fill a room" with vapor, I do get more enjoyment from the overall vaping experience when there is a appreciable amount of vapor being produced by my e liquid, and device.

Now, I don't disagree with OP, because I do find it interesting that many vapors (including myself) do desire a good amount of vapor production, whereas most of us will agree that while we smoked cigarettes, smoke production was not a concern... but I think this speaks to the "difference" in the two experiences (smoking vs vaping).

There is something very satisfying (at least to me), about a nice, thick, full, and billowy exhale of vapor, in combination with a pleasant flavor, and the sensation of a throat hit. Vaping is so different from smoking, most especially in the way that it engages, and entertains the senses.

It makes sense that the OP is not concerned with vapor production, based on the reasons he gave for vaping in the first place, which is simply to satisfy his nicotine addiction with a healthier alternative. Whereas some others (including myself) vape for the "sensory pleasure" that the overall experience of vaping can provide. :D
 

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I agree macaroni. When I take a puff and notice there isn't much flavor, there usually isn't as much vapor either. The thicker the vapor coming out means the better draw/flavor that I got. I'm no cloud chaser and only have a vision spinner with evod so I don't know if I qualify to answer lol. I also just want something that tastes good! I really don't agree with the OP. Why do you like red shoes and I like blue shoes? It's a difference of opinion. Your addiction isn't the same as other vapors addiction. There is more addiction than just the nicotine which is what you're trying to say. Some people are addicted to the whole act which include blowing out smoke. If they want to make big clouds and it is keeping them healthier and safer while doing so, what do you care? You say you're no making a big deal but then say it is pointless in vaping if there is no nic. Well maybe to you but not others.
There is no point in vaping if you are just looking at clouds. I'm sure anyone who vapes has some nic in their juice and that is why they vape to satisfy an addiction. Vaping is only the lesser of 2 evils. You are still putting nic in your body and I do not think that is healthy. Why should someone jeopardize their health to see clouds. I think that is ridiculous.
 

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There is no point in vaping if you are just looking at clouds. I'm sure anyone who vapes has some nic in their juice and that is why they vape to satisfy an addiction. Vaping is only the lesser of 2 evils. You are still putting nic in your body and I do not think that is healthy. Why should someone jeopardize their health to see clouds. I think that is ridiculous.

Nic also provides throat hit, more so then PG.
 

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Maybe I am wrong, but I think the OP has an issue with the people that are taking up vaping out of pure sport. Do I have a problem with those people as well? Yes. Why? Because for me vaping was a way to free myself from tobacco cigarettes and the 4000 harmful chemicals held within them, not because my one friend is blowing out huge clouds of vapor and I want to do it too. The latter is how I started smoking, as I'm sure many of us did, peer pressure. Am I saying that the sport vapers have no right to be in this community? No, but I would rather give advice to someone that wants to start vaping to help their health than to someone that just wants to blow cumulus clouds, and that is my prerogative.

The cloud chasers versus smoking alternative debate will go on just as long the Provari versus (insert mod name here) debate will, and everyone will have their own opinion, which everyone is entitled to. So who is right? We all are. We are going to have to add cloud chasing and mod preference to the list of things that you should never talk about like voting and religion because there will always be someone that doesn't share the same belief as we do, and that's OK.

Very well-put and well thought out argument. Bravo.
 

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There is no point in vaping if you are just looking at clouds. I'm sure anyone who vapes has some nic in their juice and that is why they vape to satisfy an addiction. Vaping is only the lesser of 2 evils. You are still putting nic in your body and I do not think that is healthy. Why should someone jeopardize their health to see clouds. I think that is ridiculous.

My addiction was never about the nicotine. I smoked for over 20 years and whenever I quit it was never the nicotine that brought me back it was the act of smoking. It was the feel of inhaling and exhaling smoke, it was something in my had to hold on to. It was the oral fixation of sucking on the cigarette. It was scheduled 7 minute breaks to kill time. It was that first cigarette in the morning or after a meal.

Addiction to smoking is so much more then just nicotine. In the 5 months I have been vaping I have dropped from 18mg to 6mg with no increase in usage. I plan to be down to 0mg by the time I hit my 1 year mark. Even then I don't know if I will stop vaping, or if I will even be able to.
 

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Different strokes for different folks. Some people just like the vapor production. I don't see why you're making such a big deal about. You like the throat hit so just go for that. I can't imagine have one without the other. That's why all of my juices are a 50/50 blend.

I couldn't agree more. Whatever works for you is great. If some folks want to take it to the next level, hey whatever floats your boat and works for you. It doesn't bother or impress me in the slightest. I personally have a happy place with 1.6 Ohms on my RDA/RBA and I couldn't care less what anybody thinks about it :)
 

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There is no point in vaping if you are just looking at clouds. I'm sure anyone who vapes has some nic in their juice and that is why they vape to satisfy an addiction. Vaping is only the lesser of 2 evils. You are still putting nic in your body and I do not think that is healthy. Why should someone jeopardize their health to see clouds. I think that is ridiculous.

Tell that to the many vapers that either started with or have weened down to 0mg nic.
 

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Tell that to the many vapers that either started with or have weened down to 0mg nic.

I am...if you get down to 0mg, you should stop vaping. I am down to 12mg from 48mg...I have no intention of going to zero, but if I did,I will toss my provari right in the garbage. There will be no reason to vape.
 

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I am...if you get down to 0mg, you should stop vaping. I am down to 12mg from 48mg...I have no intention of going to zero, but if I did,I will toss my provari right in the garbage. There will be no reason to vape.

If I send you the stamps, mail it to me instead.
 

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You don't have to care that's the thing .. Why do I care have you ever had a Thick flavorful lung hit ?? I have !! I vape 12 mg and take mouth to lung hits . I get the best th and more vapor for me is more th and flavor !! No I do not have 6 mm air holes at .2 ohms !! 1.5 mm air holes .9 ohms get a good lung hit for me .
 

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I am...if you get down to 0mg, you should stop vaping. I am down to 12mg from 48mg...I have no intention of going to zero, but if I did,I will toss my provari right in the garbage. There will be no reason to vape.

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If you want to quit vaping if you reach 0mg, good for you! But hey, don't toss that Provari, put it up on the classies, they hold their value pretty decently. :)

For me, however, like many others, I don't find vaping to be solely NRT. I enjoy making my own juice. I enjoy rebuilding coils. Trying different things. And, on occasion, blowing a massive cloud or two for fun. None of that will stop when I reach 0mg.

And for you to tell me that I should, well... once again, it's all subjective. Stating your opinion or even values as FACT doesn't do many people good, does it?
 

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If you want to quit vaping if you reach 0mg, good for you! But hey, don't toss that Provari, put it up on the classies, they hold their value pretty decently. :)

For me, however, like many others, I don't find vaping to be solely NRT. I enjoy making my own juice. I enjoy rebuilding coils. Trying different things. And, on occasion, blowing a massive cloud or two for fun. None of that will stop when I reach 0mg.

And for you to tell me that I should, well... once again, it's all subjective. Stating your opinion or even values as FACT doesn't do many people good, does it?

All I am doing is giving my opinion...I am certainly not telling people what to do, but what they should do if they are vaping 0 nic.
 

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As an ex 53 yr smoker and a fairly new vaper, I am genuinely interested in the reason for "throat hit". You see, back in the early 1960's when half of the adult population smoked and most of my relatives and friends, the idea at the time was to find a cigarette that was flavorful and smooth when inhaled. If the inhale irritated your throat, it was assumed that it was cheap tobacco or a very strong tobacco in which case you changed brands. I may very well have the definition of "throat hit" wrong here. If so, please enlighten me!:)
 

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I think you are wrong on so many levels...I tried the patch once and it had no effect at all. The most importing thing about vaping is to satisfy your addiction. If it was not, I for one would never vape.

That is like drinking beer that has no alcohol...it is a complete waste of time and money...I tried it so I am speaking from experience. If you do not need the nic, you should not be vaping.
This post is entirely full of fail, but you already know that, right?
 
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