Vapor4Life Vapor King - is this an eGo/Riva equivalent

[Kreep]

Do the V4L VaporKing cartos fit an eGo/Riva setup? If so, anybody have an opinion on V4L's cartos?

Thanks!

 

[Ghetto_Cowgirl]

No, they do not. You need something with a 901 or KR808D-1 connection to use them

 

[dormouse]

Vapor4Life Vapor King is KR808D-1. You could use a 510 to KR808D-1 (sometimes called 510 to 808) adapter to use the cartos. I could not recommend a 510 to 901 adapter unless you are sure it provides air inlets (like if you can see it has holes in it or notched depressions in the edge). With a 901 atty the air inlet in in the atty, but with KR8 cartos it is sort of between the battery (or adapter) and the cartos. Good places to look for adapters are AltSmoke, MadeVapes, FreedomSmokeUSA, GoodProphets


And there is a fat battery model version of KR808D-1 called Elegant Easy at CigEasy if you ever wanted a fat battery model designed for the cartos.

 

[xg4bx]

here's the eGo equivalent for the 808-

EDEN STARTER KIT - STARTER KITS - donttouchmybutt.com

2 batteries and chargers plus cartos for $50 is a good deal.

 

[Traver]

Do you know if the Elegant easy has a working voltage of 3.7 volts like the KR808. The Ego on the other hand works at around 3.2 volts. Otherwise there isn't any reason to get it. The Joye Ego is an excellent battery and there are more cartos and other accessories for it. You can always get the adapter if you want to use 808 cartos.

 

[Kreep]

Thanks for the quick replies. I was interested in model compatability because V4L is having a 35% off sale on everything on their site through tomorrow. I was gonna stock up on cartos, but thanks to you all I now know they are not compatible with my Riva 510. Thanks again!

 

[toddos]

All kr8 stuff should be at 3.7V. The problem I found with the PigCig is that though it's kr8-threaded and 3.7V, it doesn't actually accept regular kr8 cartos like from V4L or others. The difference is in how the battery and carto connect. On a regular kr8, for example from V4L, the carto has a groove cut in the end and the battery end is flat with a hole. On the PigCig, the battery end has that groove cut in it and the cartos (I picked up some of LeCig's mega cartos) are flat. If you try to put one of those cartos on a kr8 or one of the kr8 cartos on the PigCig, you get no airflow and thus no vape. I contacted LeCig about this and Mike said that he's looking into the possibility of an adapter but for now the two are not compatible.

I don't know if the Elegant Easy or other kr8 fat batts have the same limitation, but it's very important to find out before ordering. I got the PigCig because I have a bunch of other kr8 stuff, but as it stands now I can't actually share cartos. I still use it, but it would be much more useful if I could swap a carto between my kr8 PT and the PigCig rather than having to carry both types.

Edit: Looking at the large image of the Eden starter kit xg4bx linked, the battery connection looks exactly the same as on the PigCig. And I need to amend my statement above -- regular kr8 cartos on the PigCig and similar get too much airflow and apparently no battery connection. They just don't vape. PigCig cartos on a kr8 battery get 0 airflow and thus can't vape.

 

[Pav]

Do you know if the Elegant easy has a working voltage of 3.7 volts like the KR808. The Ego on the other hand works at around 3.2 volts. Otherwise there isn't any reason to get it. The Joye Ego is an excellent battery and there are more cartos and other accessories for it. You can always get the adapter if you want to use 808 cartos.

I have the Elegant and an Ego and without doing any tests myself, my personal experience is that the Elegant is of a higher voltage. Pretty much the same as a reg KR8 battery. I use both batteries with KR8 cartos (Ego with an adapter). Since I use LR 2.0 ohm cartos I've actually come to favor the lower voltage of the Ego over the elegant.

I don't know if the Elegant Easy or other kr8 fat batts have the same limitation, but it's very important to find out before ordering. I got the PigCig because I have a bunch of other kr8 stuff, but as it stands now I can't actually share cartos. I still use it, but it would be much more useful if I could swap a carto between my kr8 PT and the PigCig rather than having to carry both types.

The elegant battery has a groove like you're mentioning, although I use it with regular KR8 cartos and it seems good for the most part. I have had some problems with one of my 3 Elegants not working though and I had to adjust that center piece with the groove.

Who sells the PigCig?

 

[markfm]

Doesn't help with v4l cartos, but I've been really happy with vaporetc low resistance 808 cartos on a Riva 510, using the GP or liberty-flights 510batt-808/901 adapters. While they run a bit cooler, I've also liked NHaler's Jumbo 808 LR cartos on Riva, again with the adapter.

 

[Traver]

All kr8 stuff should be at 3.7V. The problem I found with the PigCig is that though it's kr8-threaded and 3.7V, it doesn't actually accept regular kr8 cartos like from V4L or others. The difference is in how the battery and carto connect. On a regular kr8, for example from V4L, the carto has a groove cut in the end and the battery end is flat with a hole. On the PigCig, the battery end has that groove cut in it and the cartos (I picked up some of LeCig's mega cartos) are flat. If you try to put one of those cartos on a kr8 or one of the kr8 cartos on the PigCig, you get no airflow and thus no vape. I contacted LeCig about this and Mike said that he's looking into the possibility of an adapter but for now the two are not compatible.

Sounds like a 901. There are adapters for it to use KR808 cartos. It's listed as 901 to KR808Di - Cartomizer
http://www.cloudsofvapor.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=498&category_id=83&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=85
There are cheaper ones but I remember where off hand.

All of these batteries 510 family egos riva etc. and KR808 are 3.7 batteries. Only the KR808 and many of the mods deliver 3.7 volts to the cartridge. Most of he others have a working voltage of 3.2. That's a 40% difference in the power to the coil. Maybe all kr808 should run at 3.7 volts but not all of them do. There are a lot of knockoffs out there.

I have the Elegant and an Ego and without doing any tests myself, my personal experience is that the Elegant is of a higher voltage. Pretty much the same as a reg KR8 battery. I use both batteries with KR8 cartos (Ego with an adapter). Since I use LR 2.0 ohm cartos I've actually come to favor the lower voltage of the Ego over the elegant.

Same here a 2.0 ohm on a KR808 is too much for me I like a 2.8 on it at the least For an Ego I usually go with a 2.4 but may go lower depending on the juice. Then again I use CE2s so your mileage may differ. I find that they are great for dripping with the rings removed. I never get juice in the battery anymore and when I go out I fill them and put the caps back in.