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VaporMoon & The Saber Touch Official Thread!
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No Thank You! LOL I would like it to be in the 60's or low 70's all the time!
Got my Brass Stock in this Morning and have been turning caps all day! Shipping on the brass should start on Wednesday, and the Nickel Plated Turned Caps will start the following Wednesday!
Thank you all for your orders.
Thank you all for your orders.
NebulaBrot:
Seems like you know a lot about this things,
Can an adapter effect the performance on an atomizer?
F.eks i run an adaptered 901 on the saber now, 1 inch long with gold thread adapter. I've ordered a different adapter now, a small silver one. . can the atomizer perform differently on them? (i guess they can) ?
hope you understand my english
Seems like you know a lot about this things,
Can an adapter effect the performance on an atomizer?
F.eks i run an adaptered 901 on the saber now, 1 inch long with gold thread adapter. I've ordered a different adapter now, a small silver one. . can the atomizer perform differently on them? (i guess they can) ?
hope you understand my english
The adapter will affect 2 different things, 1) The airflow 2) electricity.
If the connector doesn't make a good mechanical connection the amount of current delivered to the atomizer (or cartomizer) from the battery will be reduced. This generally shouldn't be an issue, that is the connectors will either thread on or not and if they do you're most likely getting a good electrical connection. About the only problem some people have is the center connection of cartomizers with adapters don't make a connection at all. The center bit of most adapters can be adjusted or moved a bit up and down. So if you tried screwing the adapter onto the cartomizer then onto the ST, try the other way around, screw the adapter onto the ST and then screw the cartomizer onto that. Changing the order may move the center connection just a bit but enough to make the needed electrical connection.
The draw, the flow of air through the atomizer, can be quite different between adapters and a 'native' connector. Different brands of adapters will be different in how much or how little air they allow to flow into the atomizer. This is where you'll find quite a bit of difference. Even tightening or loosening by a 1/8 turn can make a big difference. So if you don't like the draw try loosening or tightening the atomizer on the adapter or the adapter on the ST and you may make a difference.
If the connector doesn't make a good mechanical connection the amount of current delivered to the atomizer (or cartomizer) from the battery will be reduced. This generally shouldn't be an issue, that is the connectors will either thread on or not and if they do you're most likely getting a good electrical connection. About the only problem some people have is the center connection of cartomizers with adapters don't make a connection at all. The center bit of most adapters can be adjusted or moved a bit up and down. So if you tried screwing the adapter onto the cartomizer then onto the ST, try the other way around, screw the adapter onto the ST and then screw the cartomizer onto that. Changing the order may move the center connection just a bit but enough to make the needed electrical connection.
The draw, the flow of air through the atomizer, can be quite different between adapters and a 'native' connector. Different brands of adapters will be different in how much or how little air they allow to flow into the atomizer. This is where you'll find quite a bit of difference. Even tightening or loosening by a 1/8 turn can make a big difference. So if you don't like the draw try loosening or tightening the atomizer on the adapter or the adapter on the ST and you may make a difference.
Thank you!
Those things you explained i just like i expected, which is good
There are still a couple of things i am wondering about. .
I have now 3 different 510 atomizerz. from healthcabin, eastmall and one vendor i cannot recall. . none of them are working proporly. . they are working but it's like they dont get much voltage, even under 3,7 volts, as it is working better on my regular 510 batt. .
I've tried to tighten it good and not so good, but nothing seems to help. .
my 510 cartomizers are working perfectly, and so are kr808 and 901. .
little bit sad since i have 30+ 510 atomizers in stock
And another thing: the mod should give the same output voltage all the time? from fresh batteries and until it shut down? seeme like decreses in voltage by uasage. . like the last hour of the batt it is not as goos as when the batteries are fresh. .i am pretty sure about that. .
I am extremely happy with my saber, dont get me wrong
i've gotten so many looks and compliments about my vaping machine, especially since nobody else vape in Norway
Those things you explained i just like i expected, which is good
There are still a couple of things i am wondering about. .
I have now 3 different 510 atomizerz. from healthcabin, eastmall and one vendor i cannot recall. . none of them are working proporly. . they are working but it's like they dont get much voltage, even under 3,7 volts, as it is working better on my regular 510 batt. .
I've tried to tighten it good and not so good, but nothing seems to help. .
my 510 cartomizers are working perfectly, and so are kr808 and 901. .
little bit sad since i have 30+ 510 atomizers in stock
And another thing: the mod should give the same output voltage all the time? from fresh batteries and until it shut down? seeme like decreses in voltage by uasage. . like the last hour of the batt it is not as goos as when the batteries are fresh. .i am pretty sure about that. .
I am extremely happy with my saber, dont get me wrong
i've gotten so many looks and compliments about my vaping machine, especially since nobody else vape in Norway
slaabrokk,
You got a much better answer from bsoplinger than I would have provided. Everything bsoplinger said is on the money.
I am not sure what to tell you about your attys. I have not purchased any attys directly from healthcabin but many (if not most) attys come from China. I did get some HV 4.5 ohm 510 attys from eastmall that I was not happy with. There is no reason I can think of why the same atty would perform better on a 3.7 batt than on your 5V Saber. Hopefully bsoplinger or someone else may be able to provide some helpful insight.
Saber is a great mod so I am sure you will find a combination that makes you happy. As I said, I have found certain mods seem to be happier (to my liking) with different attys. Some of this has to do with volts, some with the connectors and airflow resulting from those connectors. There may be other factors (amps?) that I have not yet studied or learned but after much experimenting, I have found happy combinations for each of my various devices. Unfortunately, I cannot give you any other shortcuts as it is all such a matter of personal preferences.
My personal general guideline:
3.7 volts - LR attys
5 volts - 2.5 to 3.3 ohms attys (although I break this rule on one device - not Saber)
6 volts - 4.5 ohms attys
Hope this was somehow helpful and there are so many knowledgeable and helpful people here in this thread (and ECF overall) that I am sure someone else will help you further.
and Happy 
You got a much better answer from bsoplinger than I would have provided. Everything bsoplinger said is on the money.
I am not sure what to tell you about your attys. I have not purchased any attys directly from healthcabin but many (if not most) attys come from China. I did get some HV 4.5 ohm 510 attys from eastmall that I was not happy with. There is no reason I can think of why the same atty would perform better on a 3.7 batt than on your 5V Saber. Hopefully bsoplinger or someone else may be able to provide some helpful insight.
Saber is a great mod so I am sure you will find a combination that makes you happy. As I said, I have found certain mods seem to be happier (to my liking) with different attys. Some of this has to do with volts, some with the connectors and airflow resulting from those connectors. There may be other factors (amps?) that I have not yet studied or learned but after much experimenting, I have found happy combinations for each of my various devices. Unfortunately, I cannot give you any other shortcuts as it is all such a matter of personal preferences.
My personal general guideline:
3.7 volts - LR attys
5 volts - 2.5 to 3.3 ohms attys (although I break this rule on one device - not Saber)
6 volts - 4.5 ohms attys
Hope this was somehow helpful and there are so many knowledgeable and helpful people here in this thread (and ECF overall) that I am sure someone else will help you further.
and Happy
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tee hee hee! I was wondering where you were going with that <3
If you've been following the thread for awhile you may have seen a few of my posts about my overtightening atomizers. I've learned that one of the side effects from over tightening the atomizer is to push the center connection of the atomizer inward. Enough so that it won't make a good electrical connection. You can fix this. Take a toothpick or something small and place it in the hole in the center connector of the atomizer. Carefully wiggle it back and forth and watch as you do. You should see that you're moving the connection outward away from the body of the connector. I'm not talking much, say 1/64" but enough so you'll get a better electrical connection.
The 5V regulated ST should prove the same current/voltage until the batteries die. The 3.7V version will show the standard LiOn discharge curve. That's about 4.2V right off the charger, a rapid decline toward 3.7V, most of the life around 3.7V and then downward toward 3.0V when the battery will be almost discharged and too low in current/voltage to run the atomizer.
That's really good info for everyone to know about! Thank you!
Yes, i've seen those postings about overtightenign atomizers. . All of my 510 atties perform alot better on my Riva 3.7v than on my saber 5v. 3 different 510 brands. (at least eastmall say that their atty is different from healthcabin's) Except 510 cartomizers. they are great.
What i am thinking is that all my 510's have gold colored threds/connectors, while my cartomizers have silver. .can that have something to do with it?
Do it excist 510 atomizers wiith silver colored threads/connectors?
Not sure if that is the problem.
wish i didnt stock up 510 atties. . lol
I know someone out there would like to see what his new Saber Touch 5v Mods look like!
I have a ton of orders going out today since the New Turned Brass Caps are finished. I'll post some more in a little while!
I have a ton of orders going out today since the New Turned Brass Caps are finished. I'll post some more in a little while!
Here are a couple more pics!
This is what klynn, our Mini Contest Winner Wanted!
Some still really like the Original Detailed Caps, like this one Shipped today!
And Two Variations of the Shiny that were shipped today!
This is what klynn, our Mini Contest Winner Wanted!
Some still really like the Original Detailed Caps, like this one Shipped today!
And Two Variations of the Shiny that were shipped today!
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It has been a very Hot and Humid day here on the East Coast. But it has been a very productive day! You all are Wearing Me Out! LOL Thank you all very much for keeping me so busy!
It has been a very Hot and Humid day here on the East Coast. But it has been a very productive day! You all are Wearing Me Out! LOL Thank you all very much for keeping me so busy!
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