Well, doesn't seem that too many Ladies like the "Pink Sparkle Hope" ST Edition... I thought there would be more response.
VaporMoon & The Saber Touch Official Thread!
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This Is For The Guys!
About The Pink Sparkle Hope Saber Touch Edition...
Listen, If you would like to participate in the Fund Raiser, But not too thrilled about carrying a "Pink" Saber Touch, What you can do is...
When you order Any Saber Touch, including a Mini, and would like to participate, I can Sell you the ribbon for $5 and include you in the Fund Raiser. A portion of your new Saber Touch will also be part of this Very Important Cause!
So, before you Place An Order...
Just email me at: SirLawrence@VaporMoon.com and I will tell you how to add that to your order.
Thank You All For Participating!
About The Pink Sparkle Hope Saber Touch Edition...
Listen, If you would like to participate in the Fund Raiser, But not too thrilled about carrying a "Pink" Saber Touch, What you can do is...
When you order Any Saber Touch, including a Mini, and would like to participate, I can Sell you the ribbon for $5 and include you in the Fund Raiser. A portion of your new Saber Touch will also be part of this Very Important Cause!
So, before you Place An Order...
Just email me at: SirLawrence@VaporMoon.com and I will tell you how to add that to your order.
Thank You All For Participating!
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Sir Lawrence, I cannot believe that... Your "Pink Sparkle Hope", Saber Touch Edition is not only the most BEAUTIFUL, pink mod that I have ever seen, but is the most GORGEOUS mod, in general, that I've ever seen! And that's not even taking into account the Wonderful Cause that YOU have so generously donated a portion of the sales of these BEAUTIES to support!!! It's not even October, National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, yet. Just give it a bit more time for the word on these to get around!!!
Thank you All for spreading the word around about
The Saber Touch "Pink Sparkle Hope" Edition.
I greatly appreciate it!
The Saber Touch "Pink Sparkle Hope" Edition.
I greatly appreciate it!
Free 1st Class Shipping To Canada!
For Orders Over $85
Since we are neighbors, I have found that by shipping by
1st Class Mail To Canada,
it can get to you faster than by Priority Mail!
So now, if you place an order with us my Email, you can have your order usually
within 5-10 days! And now you can get the shipping for FREE!
To place an order, email us with what you would like at:
SirLawrence@VaporMoon.com
And Thank You All For Your Continuous Support Around The World!
For Orders Over $85
Since we are neighbors, I have found that by shipping by
1st Class Mail To Canada,
it can get to you faster than by Priority Mail!
So now, if you place an order with us my Email, you can have your order usually
within 5-10 days! And now you can get the shipping for FREE!
To place an order, email us with what you would like at:
SirLawrence@VaporMoon.com
And Thank You All For Your Continuous Support Around The World!
Yes... as a matter of fact, we send the "bling" in a small packet just for that reason. (unattached) You can apply the "bling" to whatever or wherever you want! The important thing is that you are participating generously to a great cause.
I hope everyone had a Great Day today!
I have a long night ahead of me!
Oh, that reminds me...
Is there anyone interested in owning a Saber Touch VV? (variable voltage) Let me know. I may have some somewhere! LOL
I have a long night ahead of me!
Oh, that reminds me...
Is there anyone interested in owning a Saber Touch VV? (variable voltage) Let me know. I may have some somewhere! LOL
VV nice I thought it was gonna be a while before it came out. Here's the long over due ST review from me.
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I have a couple of prototypes of the Saber Touch VV out there for testing right now. If the word comes back that they are "Worthy", I still may make some more modifications to it. But at least they are under testing!
Oh, tried to click on your link, but it didn't work...
Sir Lawrence has now ANNOUNCED the NEW VARIABLE VOLT version of the new and improved Saber Touch. I was sworn (under fear of death) to keep mum about it! 
But, now that Sir Lawrence has announced it - AND I finally got it in my hands to have actual informed First impressions - I have posted a First Impressions review in the review section here in ECF. I will copy my post below with a link to the thread (in case you want to follow for follow-up posts and anything any others may post about it):
But, now that Sir Lawrence has announced it - AND I finally got it in my hands to have actual informed First impressions - I have posted a First Impressions review in the review section here in ECF. I will copy my post below with a link to the thread (in case you want to follow for follow-up posts and anything any others may post about it):Here is a link to the thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...aber-touch-first-impressions.html#post1930822Well folks, The Vari Volt Saber Touch is coming!!! Before I proceed, I have to state that I had to ask Sir Lawrence (Vapor Moon) for his permission to make a post my first impressions. While I did pay for this device, it was with an understanding that it would be a prototype (pre-release and NOT final version) and I agreed to not post until Sir Lawrence was ready to announce the device. He now HAS announced the device in his thread but the device may or may not be in its most final production ready version. I received mine today and I know there are a couple other prototypes that also just mailed out this week. So, Sir Lawrence needs some time to get feedback from these people (me included) before deciding if he wants to make any more final changes or is happy with this build.
Please also know, I have only had this device in my hands a few hours and will have to come back and update this thread in a week or two after putting the device thru its paces.
Let me start by saying that I have the original Saber Touch in both 3.7/6V and regulated 5V versions. Sir Lawrence has been busy making improvements. He now offers "turned" and polished end-caps which are smoother, sleeker and make the device more elegant and a bit more pocket friendly. He has also improved the Touch Sensor to make it more sensitive. Some of us may live in dryer climates or just have dry skin. This more sensitive Touch Sensor is tweaked to make connection more easily while still preventing any unintentional activation in pocket, purse, briefcase, etc. Finally, we now have Variable Volt! I am using 2 of the AW 3.7 volt protected 16340 batts (750 mAh Lithium) and I do not yet know the full range of available voltage adjustment(s). I have been moderately vaping with it, starting at 5.2 volts, for about 4 hours and it now meters at 5.15 volts. So I have experienced only .05 volt drop after 4 hours of vaping.
While I have done some preliminary research into VariVolt, electrical connectivity is NOT my forte. I posted some of my speculations and hopes for Variable Volt adjustability in another thread (portions copied below) and, based on my first couple hours of use with THIS device, I am beginning to think those speculations were very close to what I will ENJOY with VariVolt.
Sir Lawrence has done a nice job of integrating the adjustment control into the device. It is counter-sunk in a hole near the top of the device. The hole is designed to exactly match the vent holes near the bottom so the appearance is seamless. Sir Lawrence includes a nice little double-headed key-chain screw driver to make the adjustment. He has ALSO made another nice little add-on: a threaded connection for attaching a multi-meter. This is a neat little 510 adapter which he has attached black and red meter leads with alligator clips for easy attachment to the positive and negative leads on a multimeter - for easy voltage readings and/or monitoring adjustments. I believe S.L. will be selling an inexpensive multimeter as an option but these parts (adjustment screwdriver and meter adapter connection) are probably included with the device.
So, Saber Touch is growing anf maturing and the device not only functions better - it LOOKS better too. Here are some pics and I will continue my comments after the photos.
So, when I called Sir Lawrence to ask if I could post my first impressions, I asked a few questions. What I learned is that THIS device is completely sealed. This means that even the voltage adjustment is completely sealed and there is (according to S.L.) no way for ANY juice to leak into the device. I found this comforting as I have seen other VV devices that do not have completely sealed electrical components. while I learned a few other points, I want to work with the device before getting into anything else.
So, below is a piece from my post speculating and outlining my hopes for VariVolt based on my prior research, experience with my other mods and attys and what I am hoping to experience and enjoy with options available with Variable Voltage feature:
All I can say is that after a couple hours with this feature, I think my hopes and speculations may well be fulfilled. I was able to dial in the perfect sweet spot for my preferred 302 atty. For now, I am leaving it set at 5.2 volts to see how it does over the charge cycle of the batts (watching for drop-off, etc.). In time, I will try other slight voltage variations and voltage variations with different style attys.
I do not know enough about the functionality but I suspect a variable volt potentiometer involves moving parts (probably true for ANY VV feature) that are subject to wear over time and with use (meaning the more the adjustment gets turned/changed the more wear on this moving part). I suspect these "dials" (read adjustment wheel, screw, etc.) probably have some lifespan. Sir Lawrence has been choosing quality components for his mods so I hope this one (and only) moving part has a long lifespan - cuz the little bugger is SEALED into the device!
So, that's pretty much it for now. My first impression is a big fat smile on my face! Check back for updates and watch the Vapor Moon Sub-forum for official announcement of the final release of the VARIABLE VOLT SABER TOUCH! Vapor Moon
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Thank you for that review on the prototype. If everything goes well, I will put it into production soon. Nice description of Everything! Thank you so much!
Dumb question about the VV. Are there detents or something that allows for the voltage to be selected without having to resort to the special atty with leads and pulling out a meter?
I'm sort of picturing a piece of paper with notes like:
reg 901 : 4.5V
LR 901: 4.0 V
reg 510: 4.8 V
and when changing atomizer I'd be dialing in the correct voltage for that style atomizer.
I'm sort of picturing a piece of paper with notes like:
reg 901 : 4.5V
LR 901: 4.0 V
reg 510: 4.8 V
and when changing atomizer I'd be dialing in the correct voltage for that style atomizer.
There are not. Remember, every battery is different, and every atty is different, even if they all are the same type. It is necessary to check it with some type of meter.
I hope everyone has a great day today... I'm off to D.C. for a while today. Need some more Nickel Plating done!
Oh... One more thing I'm going to throw out there...
Do you all think it should be called:
-The Saber Touch VV (variable volt) or
-The Saber Touch AV (adjustable volt)
Thanks
Do you all think it should be called:
-The Saber Touch VV (variable volt) or
-The Saber Touch AV (adjustable volt)
Thanks
You can easily create your own "piece of paper" list of volt settings using a simple formula. However, Sir Lawrence is right in that attys are not necessarily consistent (remember each can vary up to +/- .3 ohms). So you if you want to be as close as possible, you will still have to meter test your attys and use the meter to set the device. The meter attachment that Sir Lawrence includes with the device is not necessary but it IS quick and easy to use and makes connecting a meter easier. If you have not used a multimeter to measure volts at connector, the agility can be a bit awkward. The meter leads are pointy and you have to hold them at specific points in the connector (center of positive terminal and on negative threads) while touching the touch sensor and endcaps. It is doable but awkward as it can be tricky to hold the leads in the right places without them moving. It takes all of about 5 seconds to thread on this little attachment and connect the alligator clips to the meter leads.
So, the formula for your "paper" is volts squared and divide that by ohms of the atty.
Mathematically, this looks like: V x V/Ohms=Watts
Using your examples:
A regular 901 is usually 3.3 Ohms (but can vary slightly):
5V x 5V/3.3 ohms = 7.57 Watts
- if you want 8 Watts: you'd have to bump up the volts to about 5.13: 5.13V x 5.13V/3.3 ohms = 7.97 watts
LR 901 can vary. I have seen some at 1.7 ohms but the only one I have now to meter reads 1.5 ohms (Cisco variety) - so:
3.7V x 3.7V/1.5 Ohms = 9.12
If you want the 8-ish Watts range, do the reverse math. 8 watts x 1.5 Ohms =12 (now take the square root to get the volts = 3.46 volts
Regular 510 atty is usually 2.5 ohms
4.45V x 4.45V/2.5 ohms = 7.92 watts or 4.5V x 4.5V/2.5 ohms = 8.1 watts
Hope this helps.
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