Variable Voltage and Resistance Question

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Rader2146:7561347 said:
As long as watts is unchanged the battery drain current will (ideally) be the same no matter the voltage or resistance. Law of Conservation applies: power in must equal power out. The only variable is the efficiancy of the device.

Current for a given power is completely dependent on the resistance and voltage of a circuit! (Derrivation of ohm's law)
 

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A more detailed explaination of what I'm talking about:


A boost regulator has to transform low voltage into higher voltage. This can only be done by using more current on the input (battery) side. The amount of additional voltage needed is expressed as:

(Volts out - Volts in) / Volts out = Percentage of voltage increase, also know as the switch duty cycle.

Now that we know the duty cycle, we can figure the additional input current required to obtain the desired output voltage.

Amps out / ( 1 - Duty Cycle) = Amps in

Example...

Known factors:
3.7v in
8 watts out
3.0 ohm carto

Ohms Law tells us that we'll need 4.9v and 1.63 amps output to achieve 8 watts.

(4.9-3.7)/4.9 = .24 = 24% increase in voltage = 24% switch duty cycle

1.63 / (1-.24) = 2.16 amps input drawn from the battery.
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Now for validation.
As deemed by the Law of Conservation of Energy, power (watts) in must equal power out. (The true statement of the law is power in equals power out + efficiency losses. But for simplicity sake, we'll get to efficiency below.)

Power = Volts * Amps

Input:
3.7 * 2.16 = 8 watts input

Output:
4.9 * 1.93 = 8 watts output
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But what about efficiency?
Typical efficiency for a boost converter is in the 75-90% range. Efficiency is not constant. It varies with the desired outputs. You can find the efficiency for certain [manufacturer chosen] situations in the regulators data sheet. Using an optimistic value of 90% efficiency we can figure our adjusted input current.

Power out / efficiency = adjusted power in

8 / .9 = 8.89 watts input.

Adjusted power in / Volts in = adjusted amps in

8.89 / 3.7 = 2.4 amps input.
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And comparison:
A fixed voltage device @ 3.7v will achieve an 8 watt output using 2.16 amps (Ohms Law)

8 / 3.7 = 2.16 amps input
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The above calculations explain why I say that boost regulators will get less battery life than a same size fixed volt, and also that you will not achieve better battery life by using a higher resistance coil.

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Current for a given power is completely dependent on the resistance and voltage of a circuit! (Derrivation of ohm's law)

Thanks for coming back to that... This is what I stated on page 1.. Actual numbers:

3ohms at 10 watts = 1.82 amps draw on source (battery)
1ohm at 10 watts = 3.16 amps draw on source (battery)
 
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