First of all, thanks to everyone who have contributed so much on this thread. Lots of incredible info! I ran across it, did a bunch of reading in it and got inspired to try a vertical build. Maybe a Protank 2 wasn't the best place to start, but what the heck. The coil went pretty well, but wicking it was a real PITA. However; it worked, and holy smokes! Wow! This vertical build is really nice. Dense vapor, good flavor, my best PT 2 build yet. When I rebuild my Taifun next, I'm going vertical, that should make a really nice vape with the better airflow (pulled pin) compared to the PT2.
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Here is my most recent build 10 wraps of 28ga around a 1/16" bit, coming in at 1.3ohms and wicked with organic cotton as always.
Hey skimmer welcome to the thread and welcome to ecf! Glad you found out about the build here instead of the knockoff chimney video.
Hey man next time can you post up some pics of your successful wicking. Like half way and finished. Because it seems like most people have trouble with wicking these. (Though that may be due watching old ripoff tripper)
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No problem, I actually plan or rewick ing it tomorrow so I'll take some pictures
Thought I would share my wicking.
And the results
Dense, wet and flavorful.
I use vertical builds exclusively for Boba's bounty and it wicks perfectly fine.
My biggest advice is to just always always wick with the drill bit in the air hole (1/16). I've seen a lot of issues with airflow, and it's usually because the cotton got between the airhole and the coil. With a clear channel, my vertical build has a way better flow than horizontal builds
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And the results
Dense, wet and flavorful.
I use vertical builds exclusively for Boba's bounty and it wicks perfectly fine.
My biggest advice is to just always always wick with the drill bit in the air hole (1/16). I've seen a lot of issues with airflow, and it's usually because the cotton got between the airhole and the coil. With a clear channel, my vertical build has a way better flow than horizontal builds
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Looks good inofat, appears to be the exact method I use to wrap a single Vert. Only advise I have to add is on a kayfun style rba, once totally wrapped to fold the tails straight up to secure the containment ring, the once tight, tuck the tails into the juice decks. This will keep one from getting fiber stuck in threads and possibly clogging the juice channels. Also you can then tuck more wick into the decks and surrounding the coil. Find I never get a dry hit when using this method.
I would also wrap the tails around the back side of the long leg too, to help it from becoming a hot leg. Not sure if you did that or not. Tis one of the reasons I prefer the iV-Tiwn build, no hot leg. And it's more wick tolerant, easier to get just right. Good job everybody.
@skimmer, commend you going vertical on the pt. Heck was thinking about building a pt, but received the Russian before I attempted to. Now I look at a pt head and shake my head, sure it is doable, but why bother, wasting building skills for sure.
Have fun with the Taifun, GT or GS? Have both, and they vape nicely. GT has wick ports not channels and decks, so to get the wicking right must have the right density of wick going through the juice port holes. Kind of a pain to get down but once found gives great Vape. Not my fave rba, but is in the top 5 or 6 of my collection, well #8 to be precise, seeing as I have 2 Rose2's and 3 flashi2's, 1 Russian and Aqua. But still a fine rba. Haven't gone vert on my gt yet, was dialing in the wicking first and getting a handle on it's characteristics.
Vape long and Prosper!!!
P.S.: the cat bites!
I would also wrap the tails around the back side of the long leg too, to help it from becoming a hot leg. Not sure if you did that or not. Tis one of the reasons I prefer the iV-Tiwn build, no hot leg. And it's more wick tolerant, easier to get just right. Good job everybody.
@skimmer, commend you going vertical on the pt. Heck was thinking about building a pt, but received the Russian before I attempted to. Now I look at a pt head and shake my head, sure it is doable, but why bother, wasting building skills for sure.
Have fun with the Taifun, GT or GS? Have both, and they vape nicely. GT has wick ports not channels and decks, so to get the wicking right must have the right density of wick going through the juice port holes. Kind of a pain to get down but once found gives great Vape. Not my fave rba, but is in the top 5 or 6 of my collection, well #8 to be precise, seeing as I have 2 Rose2's and 3 flashi2's, 1 Russian and Aqua. But still a fine rba. Haven't gone vert on my gt yet, was dialing in the wicking first and getting a handle on it's characteristics.
Vape long and Prosper!!!
P.S.: the cat bites!
Have one pic of my current coil on the Russian. Using twisted tiger wire in the inverted V-twin build.
I then use hemp fiber for wick by threading a stand between the two coils, and wrapping the tails completely around both coils and tucking the tails into the juice decks that they started at. I twist the stand tight to thread between the coils, then slightly untwist to fluff a bit, then wrap around the coils. Always fold the tails up when securing containment ring, the tuck tails into juice track. That way no fibers get caught in the threads and block the juice channels. First one was just 28 awg, really like the tiger wire in this build. Sucka vape incredible at 30 watts. Hope this helps. I am using the mounting holes on the post blocks to secure this build.
This is a nice build. How do you wick this thing? Does the air hit the coils?
It's an awesome build, part of my "Most Excellent" Collection!! lmao. I now am using Ramie, but hemp or cotton works fine too. I thread my wick between the 2 coils, then untwist and straighten fibers, and gently wrap around the coil completely. Both tails going around the coil, and ending up in the juice deck it started from. Bend the tails straight up, secure containment ring, then tuck tails into juice deck. Rre-wicking is pretty fast and simple.
Yeah i saw that description in the post thanks, but i was worried about throat hit being too much since air does not hit the metal but only wick
Oh I use a separate cotton wick to cover up the hot legs. That wick also drops down to the deck
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No worries there, the way it's wrapped around the coil, the duals are sealed in the center by fiber, leaving a small air pocket between the air intake and bottom of the coils. This small air room works great for air going up both coil chimneys at equal pressure. Makes for a very smooth vape, more so than the single, diving the work in two locations.
New there was something I forgot to point out, thanks for reminding me aal.
New there was something I forgot to point out, thanks for reminding me aal.
Great did not think it would redirect the airflow to go inside the coils. Thanks!!
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Just finished re-wicking my vertical coil and actually took some picture this time
I start with a piece of an unrolled organic cotton ball
Then I insert a toothpick into the coil to keep cotton out of the air hole and to keep the coil from shifting
Then I roll up the cotton and thread the it between the long leg and the coil
I then wrap the cotton around the coil
After trimming the ends of the cotton, I normally wet it with some juice, point the ends of the cotton up then install the chimney and tuck the ends of the cotton into the juice wells but I did it without the chimney on for the pictures
After installing the chimney, I then take some cotton and cover the long leg
Now I prime the cotton with some more juice and give it a test fire
Finally the best part!
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good job, on a single Vert, I'd keep the wick tails long enough to wrap around the coil and go around behind the long leg too, keeping it from getting a hot leg.
Hey dice since that rami looks like the rayon (viscose) I was using.. I remember the qualities of it and pulled it back out. Wicked up the oddy with it straight up no core wrap. Ahhhh YES that's what was giving me the pop when I started this thread. The core helped prevent the coil from flooding with rayon. But now that I'm experience I can wick it with sratight rayon. The stuff just wicks incredibly. It has absolutely no taste. I remember the wicking test I ran on it and it was much better than cotton. I tried using it like the hemp and boy was that thing oversaturated. Went back to my OP style wicking and bam wicks like a champ no off flavor at all. Instantly took more power with that bomb flavor that's been eluding me.. I thinking the ramie is the same. So yeah takes a lot less wicking huh?
Links on my use of rayon (viscous) -
starting post 4752 - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...030-wick-materials-safe-vs-dangerous-119.html (link is with 40 per page)
Seems I should have stuck with the rayon, I thought the hemp would be better, but really it's not! I had the bomb from the start.
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That made my in depth posting worth it Jeremy. And why I started the Just Ramie thread. It all came together for me when I built the 2nd build on Rose2. I did the iV-Vtwin build and was intending to use hemp, because I didn't understand the "Way of the Ramie" YET!!!!. Whenever I receive a new rba, I always go with a simple horizontal miro coil build to get a base reading and to get some vape time to get to know one another. Was in the middle of my creative build process, thinking about the jc control on Rose, fluid dynamics, and plant cell structure, that all the pieces snapped into place, and I reached for the Ramie instead of Hemp.Building is kind of a Zen/Culinary Arts, frame of mind thing for me. My Executive, Hall of Fame Chef instructor, Chef Douglas, once said to me," dice, within every block of ice is a masterpiece waiting to be discovered, it is up to the Sculptor to find it. So one would look into the block and try to find that form.
I approach building rba's that way, to find and understand what will compliment its designed functions. So when my creative theories proved out, I did a huge photo shoot while building it, trying to capture what I wanted to demonstrate. Glad my build time will help others. That's how we all learn.
One must Become the build to be one with the rba.
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I agree with the theory that every rba has its own compatible build. When I started micro coiling in atomizers like Ody and Ithaka I tried the conventional coils but still didn't work for me. I'm still looking for the perfect build for these devices although I do believe it will be a variation of the vertical coil.
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aal, that's so funny, I have a Term-C in the vapestation drawer, and was thinking of giving it another build. Haven't used it in ages, did put dua verts in her, but currently it has SS mesh with Hemp core, and vaped like a champ for me, first leak on my 510 and haven't used it since. lol. Thinking ramie would serve the Term well. Fraking thing holds over 6 mls of juice, lmao. Hmm, might sell it though, has the full SS tank section too.
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