Vector Variable Volt (VVV)

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I just ordered My Vector Variable Volt (VVV). It's basically a Lava Tube from L-Rider! I heard the new release has some small improvements over the original. Anyone else hear the same thing? How do you like your Lava Tube / VVV!

Here is a link if you want to see pics of the VVV!
http://www.vaporbeast.com/product_p/skvs.htm
 
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maybe the company that makes the lava tube, will smarten up and raise the AMPS on it...to say... 3.5 ;)
aside from that one downfall, of its limited capability. I think its a great buy.

I think they will..but it takes awhile I'm sure to test and really the other VV device just switched to a 3.5 amp limit. I think you will see a higher limit by the end of May and maybe a way better screen more along the lines of a inexpensive cell screen.
 

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Heard that a new Lava tube is coming out from L-rider that looks just like a Provari! I wish they would not rip Provari to that extent! I can't imagine it will have the same features as a Provari! I like my Vector Variable Volt, but it is not in the same leage as my Provari! It is howler a nice device for the price!

But really isn't a Provari probably just a ripoff of someones MOD? I bet before Provari came along there were tube MODs and ones with voltage display. As for the electronics in them they have been around for decades...
 

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Oh I've read that and a lot of other comparisons..plus a lot of videos and write ups of a lot of VV devices. What I was saying is the idea of the tube mod (probably modded flashlights) and VV voltage probably came from some modder before either devices were even thought of. A lot of the basic electronics in these things have been in TV's, stereos and lot's of other devices since before I was born..although they were analog back then. Digital processors have been around since the 70's probably.
 

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Oh I've read that and a lot of other comparisons..plus a lot of videos and write ups of a lot of VV devices. What I was saying is the idea of the tube mod (probably modded flashlights) and VV voltage probably came from some modder before either devices were even thought of. A lot of the basic electronics in these things have been in TV's, stereos and lot's of other devices since before I was born..although they were analog back then. Digital processors have been around since the 70's probably.
I agree with you, many of us had built VV mods long before Provari. They just put it in prettier package.
 

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A lot of the basic electronics in these things have been in TV's, stereos and lot's of other devices since before I was born..although they were analog back then. Digital processors have been around since the 70's probably.

The production variable output mods most basically consist of a switching converter and a micro-controller.

The theory behind switching coverters is as old as the theory behind transformers (really old), but switching converters weren't widely used until silicon chip technology made it practical. That was not too long after the introduction of integrated circuits in the late 1960's. Switching converters gained widespread use probably within a decade after that.

The first commerical logic processing chip was the Intel 4004 released in 1971. Shortly after, two distinct branches of processing machines emerged, micro-controllers or MCUs mainly used for appliances and microprocessors or CPUs mainly used for computers. A variable output mod would use an MCU.

Just agreeing with you here, none of the tech used in a variable output mod is new, it's just a new application of stuff that's been around for a long time.
 
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..Just agreeing with you here, none of the tech used in a variable output mod is new, it's just a new application of stuff that's been around for a long time.

Oh yeah I know I have a pretty good understanding of electronics..not as much as you but I've been taking electronics apart since I was a little kid in the 70's. I even repaired game consoles for almost 4 years and did a good job of it. Most of the work involved disassembling it and the laser cleaning good..but some soldering.

I just seem to have the touch when it comes to fixing things. Of course it helps I tested to a college level of math in 7th grade and my aptitude tests said I could be any kind of engineer I choose..plus strong mechanical ability. They told me I could do what I wanted in life..so I did what I wanted and partied it up until I was about 30 lol. Anyways on most of these devices it's not worth the time really repairing the circuit board anymore because everything is so small and it's just cheaper to either buy a new one or replace the board.

I even built my own "tobacco" vaporizer in the late 90's out of a car cigarette lighter, a transformer and a dimmer switch wired in before the the transformer. It works pretty good it will go from warming the "tobacco" to incinerating it..it screws directly onto a "tobacco" metal pipe..well I think the wire to the cig lighter might be broken because of use but I don't use it anymore anyways.

Here I dug it out of a drawer full of electronics I have..I probably went a bit overboard with the design but the version I made before the one in the pic below the transformer got hot and didn't last long..I used the one below for years. Nice simple design though set the dimmer to about halfway and flip the switch..it got a good amount of use..I think it cost me like $20 to build if that. It's a old school PV :D

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Interesting, you can actually buy production vaporizers for "smoking tobacco" other than the ones we use for vaping. My brother-in-law uses one so that's how I know about them. I guess you were ahead of your time.

Well there were some years ago but most of the shops didn't carry them..I also saw something years before that some college students built and used that had a car cig lighter but it was mounted on a plate that you put a cup over and you had to hit a button only long enough for it to get warm.

At 1st I tried a potentiometer (large volume control) to make is variable but that didn't work that good..then I came up with the idea of wiring in a dimmer on the AC side of the coil. I came up with the idea of attaching the threads to the cig lighter and wire ect... It worked pretty good too but that end gets pretty hot..the wires leading from the wood knob to the lighter get pretty warm too.

I think there could have been a little money in it but I didn't have the resources to develop it..it probably wouldn't have made a million though. None of the places I went back then had any idea of how make a coil or where I could get a smaller one..I probably just went to the wrong places though. I thought about pulling coils out of old coffee makers and other things to see what made them tick..but then I gave up. One of the things that made me give up was if care wasn't taken I could see it as a fire hazard.
 

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Heard that a new Lava tube is coming out from L-rider that looks just like a Provari! I wish they would not rip Provari to that extent! I can't imagine it will have the same features as a Provari! I like my Vector Variable Volt, but it is not in the same leage as my Provari! It is howler a nice device for the price!

I saw pics, it looks nice enough but I heard it will take stacked batteries! Also I don't like the idea of ripping off the Provari look, they should keep it somewhat different??
 
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