Hello everyone, My name is Amber and I'm very new to this ecig thing. I'm using a Buck Naked Express Ecig at the moment along with their brand of Turkish tobacco at 18mg. I've tried various methods to get away from real cigarettes for the past year and thought Ecigs were the way to go. So far, the ecig hasn't done anything to take the edge off the cravings and I'm getting desperate. My boyfriend talked to someone who said that the nicotine levels in my juice probably aren't high enough. Now, i'm completely confused. I don't really want to buy another rig if I don't have to, but I do want to stop using the Ecig in conjunction with regular cigarettes because it's silly, costly and causing more arguments than I care to talk about. I'm very new and I really don't know what I'm doing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thank you all in advance.
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It does sound like your juice isn't strong enough. I'm not familiar with that brand of ecig, but do they have 24mg juices you could try?
If you do have to buy a new rig, I started with the Evod starter kit and I am really happy with that.
I've been vaping for a month and a half, and I tried 12mg juice, which did nothing for my cravings, so I went to 18, and that only did a little to help. Now I'm vaping some 24 juices and it is helping the cravings.
If you do have to buy a new rig, I started with the Evod starter kit and I am really happy with that.
I've been vaping for a month and a half, and I tried 12mg juice, which did nothing for my cravings, so I went to 18, and that only did a little to help. Now I'm vaping some 24 juices and it is helping the cravings.
1. 18mg should be plenty, but maybe you need 24.
2. Spend several hours reading this forum.
2. Spend several hours reading this forum.
Hello and welcome. Don't be concerned, please. It is OK if you smoke and vape at the same time. It is a process of quitting, no one expects you to do it all at once, don't let anyone tell you that you have to. I'd agree that you will want to increase the nicotine level of your juice. Can you add juice to your atomizer or is it a cartridge that you replace when it is empty? If you can add juice to it, buy either 24mg/L or even 36mg/L and don't be afraid to vape a lot. I vape like a locomotive, any chance I can. Good luck and have fun!
OP is the ecig you are using a disposable one? I started off on a disposable as well. I didn't feel anything from using it. Even if the nicotine level is high, it doesn't mean a thing if the nicotine delivery method is poor. I suggest getting an Ego with a Kanger Protank and some 24mg juice. That should make a difference.
18 mg should be plenty???? What? Really?
Since the OP didn't mention their PAD smoking habit, or the type of analoges used, how can you even begin to say this. I was a 3-1/2 PAD American Spirit Black user for 35 years. I assure you that 18 mg wasn't even close to getting me off the analogs. First, I tried in 2009 and the batteries, juice and delivery devices were not enough for me. Again, 2011, better batteries 650 egos, with atomizers and plastic top cartridges. Still not enough. Finally January 2013, 36 mg/ml juice, APV replaceable batteries, Kanger toppers. I was able to quit and never looked back. I'm down to 18 mg/ml now and use 12 mg/ml in my RBA's. I am again nearing the point where I can reduce my nicotine level, but I'm in no hurry whatsoever.
Here's the great thing about 2013. We have so many wonderful choices that it's confusing what to get. Most everyone would prefer the form factor of a cig-a-like, with the performance of a Provari APV with a great topper. However, because of battery life and other factors, we're not there yet, but we have come a long way. In reading the forum every day for the past year, I found the most recommended entry level starter kit to be:
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm
Try a couple of evods with the Spinners. Alternatively, an evod, MT3S, Twist and SPinner will give you four different setups and you can start to discover what works best for you. Even higher, would be two iTaste 3.0 with two Protank II's:
iTaste VV 3.0 - Variable Wattage Device - Pearl Chrome | Variable Voltage | MODS | iVAPE (use coupon code itastevv for 30% discount), and
Kanger Protank II mini - 101 Vape (use coupon code vaporjoes13 for discount).
Shop around, the prices are always changing up and down. I strongly recommend you get some 36 mg/ml juice for those "moments" when the cravings won't abate, some 24 mg/ml juice for all the time use, and keep your 18 mg/ml juice for evenings. Replacing the nicotine is actually pretty easy. What takes a bit is that the mechanism of absorption is different. Nic hitting the brain with analogs is about 5 seconds, vaping about 30 seconds. The difference is forever at first. However, some strong juice to start will allow your body to adapt to the different MOA that is vaping, and pretty soon, you can lower your nic level to suit you. Without strong enough gear and juice, at first, though, quitting smoking is a bear, for most of us. The right setup and juice was the key for me. Getting setup is a one-time cost of a carton or two, say two cartons with juice. Thereafter, cost drops dramatically to less than a carton a month for juice and replacement head/coils. Good luck, welcome to the Forum, power up and vape on!
Since the OP didn't mention their PAD smoking habit, or the type of analoges used, how can you even begin to say this. I was a 3-1/2 PAD American Spirit Black user for 35 years. I assure you that 18 mg wasn't even close to getting me off the analogs. First, I tried in 2009 and the batteries, juice and delivery devices were not enough for me. Again, 2011, better batteries 650 egos, with atomizers and plastic top cartridges. Still not enough. Finally January 2013, 36 mg/ml juice, APV replaceable batteries, Kanger toppers. I was able to quit and never looked back. I'm down to 18 mg/ml now and use 12 mg/ml in my RBA's. I am again nearing the point where I can reduce my nicotine level, but I'm in no hurry whatsoever.
Here's the great thing about 2013. We have so many wonderful choices that it's confusing what to get. Most everyone would prefer the form factor of a cig-a-like, with the performance of a Provari APV with a great topper. However, because of battery life and other factors, we're not there yet, but we have come a long way. In reading the forum every day for the past year, I found the most recommended entry level starter kit to be:
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm
Try a couple of evods with the Spinners. Alternatively, an evod, MT3S, Twist and SPinner will give you four different setups and you can start to discover what works best for you. Even higher, would be two iTaste 3.0 with two Protank II's:
iTaste VV 3.0 - Variable Wattage Device - Pearl Chrome | Variable Voltage | MODS | iVAPE (use coupon code itastevv for 30% discount), and
Kanger Protank II mini - 101 Vape (use coupon code vaporjoes13 for discount).
Shop around, the prices are always changing up and down. I strongly recommend you get some 36 mg/ml juice for those "moments" when the cravings won't abate, some 24 mg/ml juice for all the time use, and keep your 18 mg/ml juice for evenings. Replacing the nicotine is actually pretty easy. What takes a bit is that the mechanism of absorption is different. Nic hitting the brain with analogs is about 5 seconds, vaping about 30 seconds. The difference is forever at first. However, some strong juice to start will allow your body to adapt to the different MOA that is vaping, and pretty soon, you can lower your nic level to suit you. Without strong enough gear and juice, at first, though, quitting smoking is a bear, for most of us. The right setup and juice was the key for me. Getting setup is a one-time cost of a carton or two, say two cartons with juice. Thereafter, cost drops dramatically to less than a carton a month for juice and replacement head/coils. Good luck, welcome to the Forum, power up and vape on!
It's also hard to vape like you smoked, in other words five minutes and then you're done. Nicotine from vapor takes longer to get into your system, and depending on your exact setup you may not be getting as much nicotine as you think. The more cigalike the system, the harder it is to get your nicotine in your bloodstream to the levels you're used to. Typically most of us chain vape for at least as long as it takes to get over the need to return to smoking. Some of us never get over the need to chain vape. 
Check out some of the vendors listed here on ECF. I have no idea what kind of prices Buck Naked has since I refuse to make an account to find out, but an eGo style battery and tank system kit will typically cost you less than a carton of cigarettes elsewhere, and then you can put whatever flavor and nicotine strength in it you want.
Check out some of the vendors listed here on ECF. I have no idea what kind of prices Buck Naked has since I refuse to make an account to find out, but an eGo style battery and tank system kit will typically cost you less than a carton of cigarettes elsewhere, and then you can put whatever flavor and nicotine strength in it you want.
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When I fist started vapeing it took 38MG to get me off the smokes...I smoked 1-1 1/2 PAD for 38 years. I have since decreased the nic to 24MG/mornings and BAD cravings 18MG days and 12/10MG nights. It does sound as if you do need a bit more Nicotine for now.
The good news is that it appears your set up is a rebranded ego type so changing juices should be cheap. Try and find a local vape store that has a juice bar...so you can try the flavors before you buy and get a few flavors you like in higher nic
The good news is that it appears your set up is a rebranded ego type so changing juices should be cheap. Try and find a local vape store that has a juice bar...so you can try the flavors before you buy and get a few flavors you like in higher nic
It is ok to both smoke and vape at the same time. I have a friend who vaped during the day and went back to smoking at night for about a week. After this week of doing both, they were able to stop smoking entirely. Another friend switched "cold turkey" on day one. It works different for each of us. Just stick with it and you will get it to work. I have been away from smoking for 18 months thanks to e-cigs.
Well the only places I could find this unit online (1 battery, 1 clearomizer) have a price (33.99 - 39.99) which is comparable to a quality starter kit with 2 batteries and 2 or more clearomizers. You definitely might need a higher mg liquid. That wasn't my experience, but everyone's experience is different. What do you do when your battery is dead? Is that when you smoke the stinkies the most? I would suggest a backup, & a back up for your backup. That along with a juice better suited for you might just do the trick. If you have been doing this for a year and still have the cravings IMO you still haven't found your perfect vape. I would definitely try different juice strengths and possibly flavors, but you might need better quality equipment to find the vape that makes you wonder why you ever wanted the stinkies in the first place. You might consider an Evod starter kit. I started with, however within a few days I got 2 Vision spinner VV 1300mah batteries, and 2 Kanger mini protank2's and gave him the Evods. He likes them. I like them more than smoking stinkies, but something was missing. With it in one hand and an analog in the other I compared. It was the warmth of the analog that I liked. I get that now with the VV batteries and the mini protanks. I am able to change the coils and voltage to hit the sweet spot. You can change your vape to some degree with the Evod system by changing your coils as well.
I hope you find your perfect vape. Trust me when you do you will lay the stinkies down. You have definitely found the perfect place to get all of the inspiration, info and support you need here at ECF!! Best of luck to you!!
I hope you find your perfect vape. Trust me when you do you will lay the stinkies down. You have definitely found the perfect place to get all of the inspiration, info and support you need here at ECF!! Best of luck to you!!
Hi Amber!
Welcome and don't throw in the towel.
We can help you out.
A Google search showed me your Buck Naked Express Ecig setup is an egO battery with a CE4 clearomizer.
A lot of stores like to stamp their name on a product but what you have is an eGo.
You won't need to buy another kit; just ejuice.
From what you've described it sounds like your nic level is too low.
I don't know where you're located but if there is a brick & mortar store you could get a bottle of 24mg juice from, that may help until you're able to order some online at a cheaper price.
Thank you all so much for your replies and encouragement! I was smoking a pack a day of Marlboro Reds when I decided to switch to vape. Been a smoker for around 20 years. The 18 isn't quite cutting it for me, so I'll try the 24 or 36. My rig doesn't have cartridges, so I'm guessing any variety of juice is fine? I'm going to have to look around for a juice bar because I know the place where I bought it doesn't offer that and the lady really didn't know a lot about Ecigs. Thanks again. I'm going to keep at it. I'm at around 5 regular cigs per day which is a large drop for me, not so much for the boyfriend who wants me off them completely, but it is a process and I"m getting there.
Hey OP! You CAN quit using an ecig as so many of us here have! Glad that you are starting with an eGo system. I'd recommend some different tanks though, as the CE4's tend to mute your flavors quite a bit. The evods are nice, as are the very simple, iClear 16's.
If you feel like you are still having cravings, try a higher nic level to get you through them. Finding a high quality juice that has excellent flavor is important as well because you will want to vape it rather than lighting up an analog.
I'd also recommend having 2 batteries as you can charge one while using the other and don't have any down time. If you can get a VV (variable voltage twist style) battery, then you can really dial in your vape and this will help you with your nicotine delivery as well. You can do it! We can help.
If you feel like you are still having cravings, try a higher nic level to get you through them. Finding a high quality juice that has excellent flavor is important as well because you will want to vape it rather than lighting up an analog.
I'd also recommend having 2 batteries as you can charge one while using the other and don't have any down time. If you can get a VV (variable voltage twist style) battery, then you can really dial in your vape and this will help you with your nicotine delivery as well. You can do it! We can help.
There you go! That's the spirit! You'll get there in your time. Good luck and have fun!
Amber, you will do just fine you have already cut down on the smokes alot so a higher nic juice should help. Yes any brand of juice will work with your gear...its just a matter of finding a few you like. Be sure to try some fruits, a mint or two and maybe even a desert or candy flavor. When I first started vapeing I thought I needed tobacco but within a week it was the last thing I wanted to taste. It is really worth it to travel to a shop with a juice bar
And I second the idea of picking up an evod or protank to replace your ce4
And I second the idea of picking up an evod or protank to replace your ce4
Amber, you will do just fine you have already cut down on the smokes alot so a higher nic juice should help. Yes any brand of juice will work with your gear...its just a matter of finding a few you like. Be sure to try some fruits, a mint or two and maybe even a desert or candy flavor. When I first started vapeing I thought I needed tobacco but within a week it was the last thing I wanted to taste. It is really worth it to travel to a shop with a juice bar
And I second the idea of picking up an evod or protank to replace your ce4
This post right here is very important.
Don't limit yourself to tobacco flavors- esp. if you're trying to replicate the flavor of the cigarettes you're trying to give up.
Welcome & congrats! It sounds like you have a good setup to work with. Finding the right nicotine level and juice can be a challenge. Keep with it. You're doing great! Going from 20 to 5 per day, especially if you don't have the right level of nicotine, is an achievement.
I'd tell your boyfriend to chill or just ignore him! He's putting pressure on you to quit too quickly, that's stressful, negative energy that doesn't help. Celebrate every cigarette you don't smoke, but if you need one - go ahead, guilt free. Once you have some juice you really like and it satisfies the cravings, don't be surprised when the cigarettes start tasting bad. That's when you know you're done with them!
I'd tell your boyfriend to chill or just ignore him!
He's putting pressure on you to quit too quickly, that's stressful, negative energy that doesn't help. Celebrate every cigarette you don't smoke, but if you need one - go ahead, guilt free. Once you have some juice you really like and it satisfies the cravings, don't be surprised when the cigarettes start tasting bad. That's when you know you're done with them!
I am new, (just 5 weeks) so I don't know as much as the others that posted here do, but for me it's all about the throat hit. I started with a ProVari using a DCT cartomizer tank.
After just one day of vaping I tried to hit a cigarette and it didn't feel right, like I was sucking nothing and wasn't getting a hit. I could see the smoke but the throat hit wasn't even close to the vape throat hit. After 2 hits I put the cig out and I haven't had a cig in 5 weeks.
First I think half the challenge is to find a juice that taste better or remind you of the cigs you smoke.
Second and just as important is to get a mod that the hit can be adjusted like a variable voltage or variable wattage mod. So you can adjust the throat hit to a Hit that a cigarette cant touch.
Well thats what I think and worked for me.
After just one day of vaping I tried to hit a cigarette and it didn't feel right, like I was sucking nothing and wasn't getting a hit. I could see the smoke but the throat hit wasn't even close to the vape throat hit. After 2 hits I put the cig out and I haven't had a cig in 5 weeks.
First I think half the challenge is to find a juice that taste better or remind you of the cigs you smoke.
Second and just as important is to get a mod that the hit can be adjusted like a variable voltage or variable wattage mod. So you can adjust the throat hit to a Hit that a cigarette cant touch.
Well thats what I think and worked for me.
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