Very Poor Cloud Production on Mech/RDA

[KeegsD]

Hey, I am using a 0.15ohm build on my royal hunter mini rda with a mech. I am using a fully charged battery (4.2 volts on the charger) and getting VERY little cloud production even with max VG juice. I'll post some pictures of my setup and a video of the clouds. It might also be important to note that it feels like I can drag on this forever and it does not fill my lungs quickly unlike some other vapes such as the TFV12 or some really nice RDA builds. Any ideas why this might be?

Here are the pics and a gif of the cloud production:

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[Darth Omerta]

First thing I would ask is what TYPE of battery are you using?

 

[KeegsD]

First thing I would ask is what TYPE of battery are you using?

I haven't considered that in the past as the battery was given to me but by looking into it a little that may be my problem. This is the battery I am using: Test/Review of LG 18650 S3 2200mAh (Blue)

EDIT: Yeah I just poked around and realized how unsafe this is to vape. Looks like I'm gonna have to go out and pick up some new batteries.

 

[Darth Omerta]

Link isnt working....you need 5 posts for links and pics to work I think.

However....

If you are not giving much thought to batteries then you should NEVER be building on a mech period....let alone at such a low resistance level.

Im not trying to flame you here, its a question of safety. Batteries and build are two of the most important factors to consider when building on a mech.

Please do some research on battery safety, ohms law and safe building techniques and practices.
These 2 blogs should help...
Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Baditude's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

For a quick reference for batteries check out this chart:

If you are using the HB2 then its safe for a build that low, but you need to know that BEFORE building and firing the mod on that low of a build.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

The LG DA S3 2200mah blue wrap is a 3a cell.
If I were you I'd go buy a lottery ticket asap, your luck is at an all time high.

 

[Darth Omerta]

The LG DA S3 2200mah blue wrap is a 3a cell.
If I were you I'd go buy a lottery ticket asap, your luck is at an all time high.

3A?!?!?!?!?! HOLY !!!!!!

No wonder I've never heard of it before.

 

[kbeam418]

.15 imo is too low for a new mech user. I wouldn't even use a mech until you have a full understanding of Ohm's law, battery safety and how mechanical mods work. Mech mods can literally be a pipe bomb. I don't use them and I've been doing this hobby for two years and I'm an electrical apprentice. Just my . Vape safe!

 

[KeegsD]

The LG DA S3 2200mah blue wrap is a 3a cell.
If I were you I'd go buy a lottery ticket asap, your luck is at an all time high.

3A?!?!?!?!?! HOLY !!!!!!

No wonder I've never heard of it before.

.15 imo is too low for a new mech user. I wouldn't even use a mech until you have a full understanding of Ohm's law, battery safety and how mechanical mods work. Mech mods can literally be a pipe bomb. I don't use them and I've been doing this hobby for two years and I'm an electrical apprentice. Just my . Vape safe!

I have a good understanding because Ohm's law and how mechanical mods operate. I now understand first off just how lucky I am this hasn't exploded and that battery safety needs to be a larger concern. I was told by the person who gave me a battery (just a friend of a friend) that it was safe to use on ultra-sub ohm builds. I now see however that he was definitely not telling the truth and from this point on I will stick to trusted brands with very high output ratings such as one of the ones Darth Omerta linked. Thank you all for the replies and concern for my safety!

 

[KeegsD]

Link isnt working....you need 5 posts for links and pics to work I think.

However....

If you are not giving much thought to batteries then you should NEVER be building on a mech period....let alone at such a low resistance level.

Im not trying to flame you here, its a question of safety. Batteries and build are two of the most important factors to consider when building on a mech.

Please do some research on battery safety, ohms law and safe building techniques and practices.
These 2 blogs should help...
Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Baditude's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

For a quick reference for batteries check out this chart:

If you are using the HB2 then its safe for a build that low, but you need to know that BEFORE building and firing the mod on that low of a build.

I've been replying to the other people on this thread in one multi-quote message and thought I should single you out here to say thanks. These blogs will be very uselessfull and the infographic on batteries you sent will be too, I appreciate you doing more than just telling me I'm an idiot or being unsafe but going above and beyond to give me some resources to start researching battery safety. I really appreciate that and thought it was worth recognition.

 

[kbeam418]

I have a good understanding because Ohm's law and how mechanical mods operate. I now understand first off just how lucky I am this hasn't exploded and that battery safety needs to be a larger concern. I was told by the person who gave me a battery (just a friend of a friend) that it was safe to use on ultra-sub ohm builds. I now see however that he was definitely not telling the truth and from this point on I will stick to trusted brands with very high output ratings such as one of the ones Darth Omerta linked. Thank you all for the replies and concern for my safety!

For that load I would only use the HB6. Exceeding CDR on a mech should never be done.

 

[KeegsD]

For that load I would only use the HB6. Exceeding CDR on a mech should never be done.

Thank's. I will most likely get either the HB6 or VTC3 depending on what is in stock at my local vape shop the next time I am over there. In the meantime I think it's time to (properly) dispose of this battery as I don't have much use for it.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

A high power regulated power device might be a good option, built in saftey features, ability to fire low sub Ω resistances safely ( as long as proper batteries are selected) , ability to adjust power output, info display screen...

Glad you stopped by & asked a question, much better to hear from you than about you.

 

[KeegsD]

A high power regulated power device might be a good option, built in saftey features, ability to fire low sub Ω resistances safely ( as long as proper batteries are selected) , ability to adjust power output, info display screen...

Glad you stopped by & asked a question, much better to hear from you than about you.

There is quite a large vape trading scene where I am, so I have considered trading my mech for a regulated alongside a bit of extra cash to get a used regulated device, or I may order a device new. The GX350 looks very nice and I like the idea of a quad-18650 that can still fit in my hand lol

 

[Darth Omerta]

I've been replying to the other people on this thread in one multi-quote message and thought I should single you out here to say thanks. These blogs will be very useless and the infographic on batteries you sent will be too, I appreciate you doing more than just telling me I'm an idiot or being unsafe but going above and beyond to give me some resources to start researching battery safety. I really appreciate that and thought it was worth recognition.

Im glad you wont be using the battery any more but I still recommend checking out those blogs. No information is ever useless and the more you know the better equipped you are when it comes to building.

I do have a recommendation regarding your build. Once you find the appropriate cell...

It seems you are running 22AWG at 5 wraps on a 3mm ID. I would try running something like 24AWG at 7 wraps on a 2.38mm ID which ohms out at around .3ohms. Quick ramp up time and lots of surface area, gives a really great hit, decent cloud, excellent flavor, and only pulls around 16A at full charge.

 

[KeegsD]

Im glad you wont be using the battery any more but I still recommend checking out those blogs. No information is ever useless and the more you know the better equipped you are when it comes to building.

I do have a recommendation regarding your build. Once you find the appropriate cell...

It seems you are running 22AWG at 5 wraps on a 3mm ID. I would try running something like 24AWG at 7 wraps on a 2.38mm ID which ohms out at around .3ohms. Quick ramp up time and lots of surface area, gives a really great hit, decent cloud, excellent flavor, and only pulls around 16A at full charge.

I actually meant to say useFULL, I'm sorry. And thanks for the build idea, I didn't build this myself as I picked used so that may be a good idea. Thanks!

 

[kbeam418]

Im glad you wont be using the battery any more but I still recommend checking out those blogs. No information is ever useless and the more you know the better equipped you are when it comes to building.

I do have a recommendation regarding your build. Once you find the appropriate cell...

It seems you are running 22AWG at 5 wraps on a 3mm ID. I would try running something like 24AWG at 7 wraps on a 2.38mm ID which ohms out at around .3ohms. Quick ramp up time and lots of surface area, gives a really great hit, decent cloud, excellent flavor, and only pulls around 16A at full charge.

I use the same build (well slightly) different at 85 watts in the Alliance V2. Flavor is great and produces enough vapor to fog up my basement .

 

[Darth Omerta]

No worries! Vape safe and vape happy!

For the record, Im use mechs all day every day. I also use regulated but I love me some mechs! I also use drippers exclusively. The lowest build I have runs at .2 for a regulated and .25 for a mech.

 

[daviedog]

Thank's. I will most likely get either the HB6 or VTC3 depending on what is in stock at my local vape shop the next time I am over there. In the meantime I think it's time to (properly) dispose of this battery as I don't have much use for it.

Your build was pulling 28 amps, you would have felt extreme heat.
Was your mod fused?
If not your Guardian Angel was on duty..

 

[Darth Omerta]

I use the same build (well slightly) different at 85 watts in the Alliance V2. Flavor is great and produces enough vapor to fog up my basement .

Mine is on a mech for about 55W at full charge. Ive got dual 22AWG running .2 at 95W on my iJoy Maxo. Definitely cloudy builds on any device!

 

[KeegsD]

Your build was pulling 28 amps, you would have felt extreme heat.
Was your mod fused?
If not your Guardian Angel was on duty..

I only picked this up today so I have not vaped on it much (and will not be vaping on this battery anymore at all.). However the mod was not fused so I am very lucky. One thing however I did notice in the total of 4 puffs I had on this vape is that the button got very hot very quickly. I am assuming this is due to the poot battery.