Very upset with GLV

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Ma'am

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I've given up on my order with GLV, I'm tired of being frustrated and upset with GLV. At this point, I have come to the conclusion that it is not worth my time and effort anymore. Here is the back story as to why I feel this way.

At the end of April, I ordered a GLV-1, 5 volt, 510 thread. Got it in a very timely manner and used it for a couple of days and then it just quit on me. New batteries, new atty, and I got nothing. I emailed Jay and he explained that the pin had slipped down and send it back and he'd fix it.

Hour or so later, I found out that if I used an adapter on it, it worked. The adapter went down further than the addy and was able to make the connection. It was bitter sweet though, it was going to have to be sent back and I'd be without it still as the adapter was long and with that, the addy and the cart, this thing was long!

Well, not long after Jay made a post about some body kits that were available on his site. I went there and sure enough there were 910 and 801 GLV1 body kits available and I ordered another. Yep, I didn't want to be without my GLV so I ordered another and was excited because I'd have that one while my other was being fixed so I waited to get it before sending the other off. I ordered it on May 1st, it was order number 186. (Cost was $95 dollars)

After that, Jay had the unveiling on the GLV2 and I loved the mini and ordered that on May 10 along with some extras. Yeah, it was the 10th and I was kinda wondering why I hadn't got order #186 yet so I pm'd Jay here about it, he never responded to the pm. Two days later, I emailed him. On the 12th I got an email from GLV and it stated that order #186 was updated to processing and NOTHING more.

On the 31st, I emailed Jay again as I had heard nothing still. I explained that I couldn't understand why I hadn't gotten my order (#186) yet as it DID show in stock when I ordered it but since I hadn't gotten it yet and appeared that I wasn't going to, I asked if I could just change it to another GLV2 mini instead. Jay responded with "sure, no problem. I'll upgrade it at no extra charge." HUH? No extra charge? I was downgrading to a 3 volt mini that cost $90 and I paid $95 for the GLV1 5v. But I said nothing, it was only 5 bucks.

When the GLV2 was in and Jay announced that he'd be sending them out, starting at #180 I was finally going to get my order and I was happy, even posted on his subforum here about it.

Jay posted that tracking numbers were sent out to those whos order number fell between 180 and I think 195. Checked my email, and I got nothing! Inquired on the subforum about why I didn't get mine, and Jay responded with " you changed your order." DRATS! I had to wait until the second run.

I FINALLY got my order, # 197 (the GLV2 mini that I ordered on May 10th) and order #186 that I ordered on May 1st (the GLV1 but changed AFTER waiting on it for a month, and then waiting some more because I changed it) and guess what I got?!! I received a 5V GLV2 full size!!!!

Received both on the same day and emailed Jay letting him know that he'd sent the wrong item. After waiting for so long, and then having to wait some more because I changed (Jay posted that) and he STILL sent the wrong one. I told him I received the wrong item and I'd be sending it back. He emailed back with "sorry." No "I'm sending the right one out now," nope all I got was sorry.

I sent it back on the 28th of June, emailed Jay that it was on its way and he responded with he'd keep an eye out for it, nothing else! By this point I am BEYOND frustrated!!!! Emailed him back to see if MAYBE he'd sent my replacement out, and he had not. So I asked if he'd any colored ones left as mine was just a plain black to begin with. He said he had every color but purple and I asked if MAYBE I could get a pink one. He never responded to me.

I received confirmation that Jay received my package on the 1st of July and I've heard NOTHING from him so I emailed him AGAIN to make sure he'd gotten it and to inquired as to WHEN I'd finally get what I ordered or my money back ($95) I even posted AGAIN in his subforum as that was the only way I'd get a response from him. He replied in the thread when I questioned him there as to WHEN I'd get my order, his response was, "it was a pink mini right?"

I never replied to it, I just didn't have the heart to keep begging, pleading and yes, I even emailed him twice with not so nice emails after finally getting my order and it was wrong and when I received NO response after he received his product back from me.

So here sit, still no refund or right order, I have NOTHING but a wallet that is short $95. I guess I should have kept the wrong order and tried to sell it on the classifieds here, at least I could maybe gotten some of my money back that way.

Sorry for the long rant, thought it'd make me feel better but it doesn't. It stinks to not have my stuff or my money. :(
 

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And still nothing! No communication, no product, no refund.......nothing from GLV.

It was bad enough waiting for my order (that showed in stock) for almost 2 months, and finally receiving the wrong product that was promptly sent back, and that was at my expense. But Jay has had the return in his hands since last Thursday, and I've still got nothing is really wrong.

Over 2 months and I've got nothing.............stinks for me!!!
 

BradSmith

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And still nothing! No communication, no product, no refund.......nothing from GLV.

It was bad enough waiting for my order (that showed in stock) for almost 2 months, and finally receiving the wrong product that was promptly sent back, and that was at my expense. But Jay has had the return in his hands since last Thursday, and I've still got nothing is really wrong.

Over 2 months and I've got nothing.............stinks for me!!!

WOW that stinks, I totally understand your frustration. I have had an online business for 8 years or so and customer service is the key to repeat business. When I first started it was tough, but after a while I recieved most of my orders from repeat customers and I always make sure that they recieve as good of support as they did the first time they ordered. Taking people for granted is a good way to go out of business.

Also, I truly believe it is unethical to expect someone to pay for return shipping on a defective product. Why should the customer be out one red cent when they did nothing wrong?

Jay if your out there, please respond and clear this up. I know a lot of people love your products. Let us know your side of this and help this person out.

Peace!
 

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Sorry for the long wait. Until this week I had another job and more orders than I could handle... as always. I build these one at a time custom, so your GLV had to be put together powder coated, and such. The upgrade was to a v2 from a v1 model . Like I said in another post it was shipped on Tuesday 2-3 day priority , and should be in your hands tomorrow. The main reason for the wait was for the GLV2 pre-order you were in the first production run. You pre-orderd your GLV 1 just as the GLV2 pre-order started , and I had upgraded all orders to a v2 for those who wanted too. I am not some guy just taking money and leaving people out in the cold, and I'm very sorry about the wait.. I didn't mean to upset you, and if you have any problems feel free to call me personally. My number is all over my forum page and it's the best way to contact me. I like to give people the option to talk to a real person. Again very sorry ..I'm not prefect but I am getting better, faster ,and now I have all the time in the world for customer service. I care about every customer..just ask anyone who has spoken with me.

Forgot to add that when I have GLVs in stock it means that I have the bodys..they still have to built to the customers color and voltage needs...sorry for any misunderstandings.

sorry one more edit. I take a pic of everyone for my own records before I ship them..this one is yours.
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When I ordered on May 1st it was for a GLV1 body kit, I'd ordered the same from you peviously (just couple weeks before actually that) and I received my product within a week. So when I didn't get this order (#186) after a few weeks, I pm'd you here and you never responded. I emailed you after waiting a few days, and then I only received a generic response of "processing."

After a month of nothing else, and never at anytime during did I ask you to upgrade anything, I just wanted my GLV1 that showed in stock. But after a month when I still didn't have my order, I figured that since I didn't get it yet and was waiting on another order (the GLV2) might as well go ahead and change the #186 order to the GLV2 as well.

I had emailed and PM'd you several times about my GLV1, you either ignored them or just replied with "processing." You could have at any of those times, just replied with what you wrote above and it would have been great and I'd wouldn't have had to start this thread to begin with. (Which I HATE I had to do in the first place!)

You have been posting on this forum plenty since me placing my order, and you've had ample time to shoot me an email also. Why was the only way to get a response from you was to call? When I wasn't getting responses from you from email or pm's, I just assumed you were ignoring me and I wasn't going to try one more avenue to just be igorned either.

It's been 2 weeks since I notified you that I was sent the wrong product (after a 2 month wait) and a week since you've received that product back from me. Now you say that I should have it today because you sent it out priority mail to me. I sincerely hope so but I never received a tracking number or an email stating that anything was sent.

Like I said, it has been very upsetting and extremely frustrating that as of right now, I'm out $102.50 (cost plus shipping wrong product back to you) and having over a 2 month wait, and I see all these custom etching and colors you're making and sending out, when I haven't gotten my order yet. And having to run you down about it, it really insulting.
 

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Like I said before..I'm sorry. I wont get into a battle with you , and this will be the last post I'm going to make on this. Ill send you your shipping cost right now ..all I need is a paypal address.

I have no intentions on trying to make you look like the bad guy..it was my fault. If there's is anything I can do to make up for this please feel free to send me a PM, or better yet give me a call 248-346-3205.
 

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Same here too Jay, don't want a battle, never did! All I ever wanted was my merchandise and to be treated in a courteous manner, of which I received neither from you.

I've exhausted myself trying to get you to respond to pm's here and emails, and as a last resort I started this thread. And now you say that won't reply to this again, thanks alot!

All I want now is a tracking number, you said that you shipped my purchase out and if that is the case, please email me the number. That is all I want and no need to call for that is there?

Also, you have my paypal addy or at least you should as I've made the payments to you from there.
 

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Ma'am -

I'm sorry to hear that you've had problems. I understand how frustrating it is to order a product, not receive, and to boot, no communications, especially when the person is posting on the forums. You have every right to be angry.

And I can understand that you feel insulted that Jay won't respond after he posted here. However, I think that Jay is just stepping back, taking a long deep breath and chilling. Alot of times, when a supplier continues to post, next thing you know there is a flame war going on with people jumping in left and right and it gets down right nasty. (I should know, being a "victim" of one.)

Yes, he screwed up royally. And I'm sure he feels like a butthead, :facepalm: but he has since apologized several times and has offered to make things right. That in itself, says a lot about a person.

Step back hon, take a deep breath, and let go of the anger.
Then, if you want, call Jay, tell him what you want and ----

allow him to make things right with you.

I wish both of you a positive, successful resolution.:toast:

 

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Ma'am,

I understand your frustration. I truly do as I too had a major problem with a vendor and had to bring it to the mains.

In reference to your comment:
"And now you say that won't reply to this again, thanks alot!"

I understand you probably want to vent but Jay has publicly taken the blame, made no lame a** excuses and apologized to you so really what else is there that he can say?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping all over you but maybe you should call him. It sounds like he wants nothing but to set things right with you.
 

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Same here too Jay, don't want a battle, never did! All I ever wanted was my merchandise and to be treated in a courteous manner, of which I received neither from you.

I've exhausted myself trying to get you to respond to pm's here and emails, and as a last resort I started this thread. And now you say that won't reply to this again, thanks alot!

All I want now is a tracking number, you said that you shipped my purchase out and if that is the case, please email me the number. That is all I want and no need to call for that is there?

Also, you have my paypal addy or at least you should as I've made the payments to you from there.

All I was trying to do was not make you any more upset, I mean no disrespect, and I sent you your tracking number in a PM..sorry I would have done it sooner but I had to hunt it down..found it in my pants pocket.

Your item was processed through and left our JACKSONVILLE, FL 32218 facility on July 9, 2010. The item is currently in transit to the destination. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.

Ma'am -

I'm sorry to hear that you've had problems. I understand how frustrating it is to order a product, not receive, and to boot, no communications, especially when the person is posting on the forums. You have every right to be angry.

And I can understand that you feel insulted that Jay won't respond after he posted here. However, I think that Jay is just stepping back, taking a long deep breath and chilling. Alot of times, when a supplier continues to post, next thing you know there is a flame war going on with people jumping in left and right and it gets down right nasty. (I should know, being a "victim" of one.)

Yes, he screwed up royally. And I'm sure he feels like a butthead, :facepalm: but he has since apologized several times and has offered to make things right. That in itself, says a lot about a person.

Step back hon, take a deep breath, and let go of the anger.
Then, if you want, call Jay, tell him what you want and ----

allow him to make things right with you.

I wish both of you a positive, successful resolution.:toast:

yes I feel really bad for all of this. I never want see a customer of mine unhappy...but it does happen every now and then..to all vendors, I always do my best to make it right tho.

Ma'am,

I understand your frustration. I truly do as I too had a major problem with a vendor and had to bring it to the mains.

In reference to your comment:
"And now you say that won't reply to this again, thanks alot!"

I understand you probably want to vent but Jay has publicly taken the blame, made no lame a** excuses and apologized to you so really what else is there that he can say?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping all over you but maybe you should call him. It sounds like he wants nothing but to set things right with you.

Agreed ..all I want is to make it right.
 

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Ma'am, I understand your frustration.
I ordered a GLV time ago when it was out of stock and had to wait for a long time. I email Jay several times, for different reasons, I place a second order for batteries, then asking questions about the GLV, asking questions about the new GLV, asking about spare parts, etc, etc… a thousand emails and pm’s….
Many were responded immediately, several in the next couple days and some never addressed.

In the case of the batteries I ordered, those were unprotected, I wrote in the forum and he refunded me immediately. One day, I was getting upset (read anxious too) for the waiting and some questions/comments not responded, when I realized that I was not the only one; like I, there were many people asking/commenting and trying to contact him.

I don’t know if he is a one man show or a very small shop but I understood he is doing all he can and making a living or some extra money doing this. I relaxed but the wait was still killing me.

Since I received my GLV, I barely talk to him, I’m so busy vaping and so happy with my device that I understand the wait was worth it. I pm him and received response; it comforts me knowing he is around, he is present and trying his best… not always is good enough doing the best, mostly when one is the person facing the worse problem; but he is around, he is present and he is not making excuses as other vendors.

I appreciate his efforts and wish him to grow to have what we all desire, a big vendor with quick turnaround and several people attending for customer service… but let’s see the other side of the coin here: He is specializing in devices, us, as customers, will buy from him a couple of times, but not much because he doesn’t sell consumable parts but long lasting ones. Perhaps customers will buy a couple devices, then maybe caps but no more; you won’t be back once a month to buy more and more. He has to be moving fast for new customers, to fill orders and move the product to get new ones… his product is different than attys… so I understand him; and if he has another job, a family… you know the drill. We are more prone to make mistakes.

I am sure you will be happy with your GLV, and once the bitter time and errors are forgiven and forgotten, you will see the points here.

I wish you both a good and happy solution and once I’m out of my financial problems, I’ll certainly be getting a mini…
 
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