VG based e-liquid at 6 volts

[franklyspeaking]

I have had some posts about vaping with 6 volts and throat irritation. I have experimented and found that only VG based liquid causes the irritation. I can only surmise that when heated with an atomizer at 6 volts the sugar or other impurity of the VG causes irritation. Whatever impurity in the VG that causes this is not present in PG. Additionally, at 6 volts there is no need to spike the liquid with VG as the PG liquid produces an excellent volume of vapor.

I experienced none of the irritation when using PG based e-liquid.

So if using 6 volts, please avoid using VG e-liquid.

 

[rejoice]

I have found this to be so true. I use a magnum and VG gives a dry burning hit.
I hate it with my Magnum that runs on 6 v. Everyone said to me that VG is less on the throat dryness. This is not true with the 6v.

 

[Elendil]

I think your post dovetails nicely with this thread.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...anyone-vaping-vg-read.html?highlight=acrolein

 

[franklyspeaking]

Somehow I completley missed that thread.... Thanks for linking it here incase others missed it as well.

 

[Jim Davis]

I have had some posts about vaping with 6 volts and throat irritation. I have experimented and found that only VG based liquid causes the irritation. I can only surmise that when heated with an atomizer at 6 volts the sugar or other impurity of the VG causes irritation. Whatever impurity in the VG that causes this is not present in PG. Additionally, at 6 volts there is no need to spike the liquid with VG as the PG liquid produces an excellent volume of vapor.

I experienced none of the irritation when using PG based e-liquid.

So if using 6 volts, please avoid using VG e-liquid.

I'm no Rocket Scientist, but here's my take on this.

Smoke is caused by incomplete combustion. I believe vapor resembles the same idea. If a flame is hot enough, the material being burned will not create smoke. I think if vapor is hot enough, it will decrease in density.

VG usually vapes like crazy, but increasing the voltage will make the atty burn hotter, and at a point the vapor may decrease and the chemical properties may change. The higher temps may cause the VG to emit different a form of chemical reaction.

This is my theory. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

Cheers;
jd

 

[franklyspeaking]

I don't know if your are wrong or not but I know the end result is aweful.
Chemistry is cool but I don't want my esophagus to be the lab rat...

 

[invidregis]

Excellent post Frank. I have been cutting my liquid with VG for a while, but now this is a no no. I guess I'm going to have to track down some PG.

 

[franklyspeaking]

VG should still be fine on 3.7 volts but for anyone vapeing a 6 volt device should only vape PG. IMO.

 

[Nuck]

VG should still be fine on 3.7 volts but for anyone vapeing a 6 volt device should only vape PG. IMO.

That was one of my concerns with the the prodigy I ordered. I have tons of both PG and VG based juice but until we get some test data I'm thinking of sticking with PG when running 6v and using the VG only with lower voltages.

 

[franklyspeaking]

Same here.

 

[Jim Davis]

Same here.

How 'bout that. The Chinese come up with a new invention to make our lives easier, and we turn it into a fire breathing monster.

 

[franklyspeaking]

Ha! Yeah that's what ended up happening, now hopefully I've found a way for me to prevent myself from continuing to do that.

 

[franklyspeaking]

Just an update:
I have now been using the mag mod with PG for two days and there is none of the irritation or problems I experienced with VG. It does burn through Juice, a LOT of juice. I would be interested to know the effect this has on the delivery of nicotine. I don't think I'm getting the nicotine I should. I don't know if the temp diminishes the delivery. Doesn't really make sense because an analog is burning red hot just like the atomizer but I don't know the temp difference on an analog versus the atomizer coil. Might need to buy a temp gun and see but why would I do that when I could buy more juice...

 

[exogenesis]

Sounds like a good move you've made.


Suspect that real ciggies vapourise the nicotine from the tobacco
significantly before it gets to the burning stage.
i.e. the draw pulls hot air / smoke over the tobacco more towards the filter.

One ciggie company has released a cigarette 'non-burning' vapouriser device haven't they ?

 

[kinabaloo]

No need to wait for test data if your experience is telling you that A is better than B.

It is likely that increased VG decomposition is involved here (if not the sole explanation).

 

[franklyspeaking]

No need to wait for test data if your experience is telling you that A is better than B.

Very true kinabaloo, I've always appreciated your practical approach to things.